Trouble In John's Canyon

dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
edited June 1, 2012 in Journeys
I sit here today groggy from the drugs. I was in surgery this morning to repair the damage from this journey into John's Canyon 5 months ago. Maybe it's just the drugs, but I started reminiscing about this journey. I looked through the photographs and decided to finally share a few here.

I haven't posted many photographs on dgrin. As an amateur, I'm rather intimidated by the great work displayed here.


Southern Utah is a magnificent place. A few years ago I rode my motorcycle to the top of Muley Point, which is not far from the Moki Dugway, Goosenecks of the San Juan, and Valley of the Gods. The view from Muley Point includes Monument Valley in the distance. Looking down from this high point my attention was drawn to a little dirt road running around the base of the cliffs. Hmmm... That looks fun. With a little research I discovered it was named John's Canyon Road.

I rode my motorcycle into John's Canyon in 2010, but was in a hurry to make a ferry. I didn't have the time to exlore this beautiful, remote, dead-end canyon like I wanted. I promised myself a return trip to John's Canyon someday to spend the night and finish the exploration. The main goal of this tour was to fulfill this promise.

I had a little trouble the first time in John's Canyon when a bad battery nearly stranded me.
Trouble of a more serious sort followed me into the canyon this year.


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I left Phoenix at 4 AM and was North of Flagstaff on the Navajo Nation in time for the sunrise.
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My transportation is a 2007 KTM 990 Adventure capable of long-distance asphalt touring, and with a talented rider, some pretty gnarley off-road stuff. I camped each night, so I was carrying about 80 pounds of luggage. The bike already weighs in close to 600 pounds, so it's a handful off-road.
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It was a chilly morning and the skies were threatening.
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The highway towards Page, Arizona cuts through the rock here.
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I stopped to hike up a nearby sand dune. In addition to warming me up, I found wildflowers and evidence a bobcat patrols here.
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Alton Amphitheater
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I had planned to travel mostly on backcountry dirt roads, but the majority of this trip was restricted to asphalt due to the weather making many trails impassable.

More to come...
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  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2012
    It was a little snowy in Red Canyon near Bryce Canyon.
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    Utah Highway 12 twists through some impressive scenery.
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    Looking towards the Henry Mountains and Capitol Reef National Park from Boulder Mountain
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    It was raining as I passed through Capitol Reef National Park in the morning. I didn't stop for photos this trip.
    I rolled into the Moab, Utah area on the afternoon of day 2. I found a campsite with sunshine and wildflowers.
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    I rode out to Canyonlands National Park on Potash Road and the Shafer Trail.
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    The trail was fun...
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    and a little rocky.
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    Approaching the Shafer Trail Switchbacks that climb up the cliff.
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    A Dizzying Climb
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,904 moderator
    edited March 16, 2012
    Oh this is gonna be good...
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  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2012
    Canyonlands National Park
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    The view from the top was incredible!
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    Inviting Road
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    Grandview Road was a blast!
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    Lean In
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    I made it to Grandview Point in time for sunset.
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    Grandview It Is
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    The White Rim Trail runs around below for about 100 miles through the park.
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  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2012
    Day 3
    After a late start I took the long rough road up into the La Sal Mountains. I had fun splashing through Onion Creek many times, but the mid-day light didn't result in good photos of this scenic trail.

    Until I finally got into the La Sal Mountains. I went up here hoping for fall colors and praying for no deep snow. I was lucky with both.
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    The alpine scenery was awesome...
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    The view below was not so alpiney.
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    Wilson Arch
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    The Abajo Mountains near Monticello, Utah
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    To be continued.
  • Allan FGAllan FG Registered Users Posts: 492 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2012
    Great shots, I love that area of the country.
  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 17, 2012
    Thanks for the comments Allan and Ian!
  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 17, 2012
    I made it to John's Canyon Road late in the day.
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    If I hurry, I just may make it into John's Canyon before dark. But, it's so hard to hurry through scenery like this.
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    I found a spot at a fork in the trail to set up camp.
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    And watched the last light of the day fade away.
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    The moon rises over John's Canyon.
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    I get the tent up and cook dinner as the stars come out.
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    Tomorrow morning I will explore deeper into John's Canyon. Deeper than I should.
  • rsquaredrsquared Registered Users Posts: 306 Major grins
    edited March 17, 2012
    As an avid rider and camper, I'm loving this story so far... The wait is killing me though. :Dear.gif
    Rob Rogers -- R Squared Photography (Nikon D90)
  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 17, 2012
    Day 4
    I wake up alone in the beautiful John's Canyon.
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    I set off to explore further down John's Canyon RD. After crossing the creek the road become a little unmaintained jeep trail.

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    It's easy enough for quite awhile.
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    My main motivation of coming here again was to go further this time. Not far after last year's turn around point, I reach this steep downhill.
    Of course, it doesn't look all that bad. I tell myself I've ridden stuff just as gnarly looking already this weekend just not as steep.
    I've ridden this steep before, just not as rocky at the same time. I consider dismounting and walking the section first, but know I'll just chicken out if I do.
    I really wanted to see what was around the next corner. This is a dead end road. If I go down, I'll have to ride it back up.

    That's a looooong way down!
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    I muster the courage/stupidity and drop over the edge. I ride down easy enough, but immediately realize I'm in trouble. The section was much worse that it looked like from above.
    I notice there are no fresh tracks down here. I continue on, but just around the next corner was a steep rocky uphill.
    I know I'm already in trouble and don't want to add to it. I've gone further than I should have already.

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    I turn around to face my foe.
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  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 17, 2012
    Thanks rsquared!

    As a rider, perhaps you'd be interested in the full story as well as my others that can be found here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11244778&postcount=83
  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 17, 2012
    I realize some of these pictures aren't all that great, but help to tell the story here.


    I pick out my line. I want to stay right, especially when I get about halfway up where the biggest rocks are. I know I need to carry plenty of momentum.
    I take off gradually building up speed. I ended up on the right line way too early. The rear tire was slipping around fighting for traction
    and redirecting me at the whim of the loose rocks. I suddenly realized that to stay on the planned line would require a right turn up a loose rocky berm
    and that I was approaching the area from the wrong angle. There was no way I could make that turn. Why is the best line always near the edge of the dropoff?
    I didn't want to slow or stop though. The front wheel was heading straight towards the center of the track and the biggest steps. I
    picked a new line towards the left side of the track. All of this was happening very fast! I tried to compress the suspension and leap over the
    first step while giving more throttle. The front tire cleared the step and then....






    BAM! The skid plate bottomed out HARD! Funny it's called a skid plate, because it certainly didn't skid. Over onto the left side the bike went, fast!
    (Maybe instead of Skid Plate we can call this one a Sudden and Drastic Deceleration Plate.)

    Next thing I know, I'm somersaulting down the hill. I felt the helmet slam into a rock and remember thinking, "I'm sure glad I'm wearing a helmet".
    Luckily the bike decided to not follow me down. I rolled halfway down the hill before being able to get my feet in front of me to stop the slide.

    I take stock of myself. Nothing seems broken or injured to bad. My left knee is tweaked, but I can move around on it.
    I scramble back up the hill to check out the bike. There are a few important things on this bike that could break in a fall like this,
    but I was lucky. The damage seemed to only be a broken mirror and some new scratches and dents to the panniers. (I later discovered the front wheel was bent pretty bad also.)





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    It was a cool morning, but I'm suddenly sweating like crazy. I carry the tank bag up the hill and strip off my helmet, gloves, jacket, and two sweaters.
    I take the right pannier off to lighten the weight I'm gonna need to lift. There is no one coming to help me. I must self-extricate.




    Once I get the bike up, I find I was pretty lucky again. A rock behind the rear wheel is keeping the bike in place and there is a spot to put the kickstand down.




    Nice parking job.

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    I carry the left side pannier to the top. I looked around for a better line out of this position, but with no help to move the front wheel around,
    my line was already chosen. I get back on the bike. After a little spinning and rocking I managed to get the rear wheel up the rock.
    This is where I wished I had a better off road tire. A square block with wider gaps in the tread would've grabbed the sharp edge of the rock much easier
    and with less drama. I tried to keep the momentum going to get up the next step, but I didn't have enough room to build up speed.
    The bike fell to the right this time. I had nowhere to get my foot down, so over we go again. I only rolled over twice before a sharp rock
    in the back stopped me this time. Did I mention I was stupid? My helmet, gloves, and jacket had already made it up the
    hill and were waiting for me at the top. I'm sure they thought it was humorous when the T-shirt failed to prevent injury.rolleyes1.gif


    I lift the bike again, and found there was no place to prop the bike up with the kickstand. The seat was at chest level making it pretty difficult
    to throw a leg over while balancing the bike (or to take another pic). I somehow get back on the bike and make it up without much more drama.


    Self Extrication Complete!


    I left my mark on John's Canyon RD...
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    ...and the road left a few marks on me.
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    I had several hundred miles of highway to get home. As the adrenaline wore off the aches and pains set in.

    I took a detour around the San Francisco Peaks near Flagstaff to look for autumn colors.
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    One of my favorites from the journey.
    Aspen and Ponderosa Pine
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    I ended up getting arthroscopic knee surgery due to my foray into John's Canyon. Nothing major, and my recovery is going well.


    I'm still drawn to return to John's Canyon.
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,904 moderator
    edited March 17, 2012
    The last image is one I look for all the time. It's like a tunnel to the sky and I love how it looks.

    Glad to hear you're OK and healing well. Gotta talk to Woody about some wheels and then thank the good folks at Black Dog lol3.gif
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,694 moderator
    edited March 18, 2012
    Great story with really great images helping tell/show the story. I hope you are fully recovered also.


    I do have one question though. You did not mention airing down your tires before heading off road, so may I ask what was the air pressure in your tires?

    Softer tires really do help me keep it together, when the road gets rocky and rough.

    I have not been down John Canyon road, and I need to correct that deficiency in my travels.
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  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2012
    Thanks Ian. I did look into Woody's Wheels, but decided to spend the money on bigger fuel tanks. I corrected the bent front wheel with a heat and beat method. It'll work for now. I also upgraded to a heavier spring rate to prevent bottoming out the forks.


    pathfinder, While airing down the tires would help, especially in soft sand or gravel, I've stopped doing it on this bike to prevent pinch flats and bent wheels with all of the rocky areas I ride. The KTM 990 is just too heavy and the stock wheel too soft.

    This is how the bike looks now.
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    I needed a new mirror.
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    Motorcycle Journeys


    Thanks for commenting guys!
  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2012
    pathfinder, There is more about John's Canyon Road including maps, gps tracks and trail descriptions in the advrider report. It may help you plan your trip there.

    A 4 wheeling friend of mine did some research on the 4x4 trail sites about the John's Canyon RD. After the Y in John's Canyon I was actually on Slickhorn Canyon Trail (Still in John's Canyon) when I had to turn around. Most of the sites recommended turning around at the top of that nasty hill. Apparently recent rockslides have made the rest of the trail inaccessable. Further access is supposedly extremely difficult even for hikers. Even though the old road continued for another 10 miles or so, the BLM is not maintaining the trail in order to preserve Cliff Dwellings.

    One of the sites with info and photos of this trail was TrailDamage.com.
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,904 moderator
    edited March 18, 2012
    Too bad the Safari Tanks don't come in blue. That would have been a better solution than the advtank.

    I'd have to agree that with the bigger bikes, it's not such a good idea to run lower pressures. Even with a stout wheel.
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  • Allan FGAllan FG Registered Users Posts: 492 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2012
    I have been in similar situations. I'm glad you made it out relativity unscathed and remembered to take pictures. Roads like this are why I bought a WR250R :D
  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2012
    That's funny Allan. After this ride I came extremely close to buying a WRR as well. In the end I decided it was cheaper
    to correct the biggest shortcoming of the 990, fuel range. I'd rather not make a habit of riding sections like that.
  • rsquaredrsquared Registered Users Posts: 306 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2012
    dave6253 wrote: »
    Thanks rsquared!

    As a rider, perhaps you'd be interested in the full story as well as my others that can be found here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11244778&postcount=83

    I'll definitely be checking those out! I don't currently do off-road, but I hope to in the future. I've got a cruiser, and I'm just now getting into more multi-day road trips, but a dual-sport is in my long term plans...
    Rob Rogers -- R Squared Photography (Nikon D90)
  • jthomasjthomas Registered Users Posts: 454 Major grins
    edited March 20, 2012
    Interesting story and wonderful photos. I've covered every mile of your journey except John's Canyon Road. I have looked at it from Muley point and been intrigued by it. But I explore in big, comfortable, 4WD vehicles, not motorbikes! I never tackled it.

    I hope you'll forgive me for posting into your thread, but I thought readers might like a glimpse of John's Canyon Road from Muley Point. This photo was made in September, 2010 as we took a lunch break at Muley Point. John's Canyon Road runs along the base of the cliff (as you described it) just in front of my wife.

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    What were the nature of your injuries, and how is the recovery going?
  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 21, 2012
    Yep. That's the road jthomas. It would be easy enough in a truck as long as you turn around just before I did.

    Here are my tracks. The turnaround point is 17 miles from the 316 (Road to Goosenecks of the San Juan SP). There are a couple short spurs further up the canyon along the creek that I have not yet explored.
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    My knee didn't repair itself, so I finally went to a specialist 4 months after the injury. I had a torn Meniscus and a couple other things that needed to be cleaned up. 5 days after arthroscopic surgery, I seem to be recovering well. Hopefully, I'll get back in the saddle before the desert gets heated up.

    Thanks for commenting!
  • WillCADWillCAD Registered Users Posts: 722 Major grins
    edited March 21, 2012
    That was a highly enjoyable read with beautiful pics, Dave. Thanks! I especially appreciate the overviews and the map, since I make maps for a living and they tend to make things more understandable for me.

    I'm an East Coaster and although I did a lot of camping as a kid, I haven't done any in a long time. Nor have I ever done any bike riding or hiking. I'm really curious as to what kind of gear and supplies you have packed into the limited space available on your bike. Could you run down an inventory for me? I may be doing a bit of camping myself later in the year, and I've been out of it so long, I'm finding myself a little befuddled by the initial planning.

    I'm glad your recovery is going well. I'm recovering from arthroscopic knee surgery myself; I had an ACL reconstruction on January 19th. Still limping a bit, can't kneel yet, and doing PT twice a week. Some advice, if you're in the mood for it: WALK. Get up and walk around the room every 30 minutes, all day long. The more time you spend immobile, the more scar tissue will develop in the surgical site, and the more difficult it will be to regain full strength and range of motion.

    I look forward to your next journey report. You live in an awesome part of the country and your photos really catch the spectacle of the places you go.
    What I said when I saw the Grand Canyon for the first time: "The wide ain't wide enough and the zoom don't zoom enough!"
  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 21, 2012
    WillCAD,

    Thanks for the wonderful comments.

    My arthro wasn't near as serious as an ACL recon, although I really don't yet know what he did while inside there. I've been walking so much, I'm almost afraid I'm over doing it. I hope your recovery goes well.

    I almost never went camping as a kid. In the military, I got tons of experience at it, although I don't recall it ever being much fun then. :D I've been traveling by motorcycle for 13 years now. Camping allows me to go farther and longer than my budget(wife) would permit if paying for lodging each night. Camping also allows you to be out there for the best light. I try to avoid hotels and crowded campgrounds. I like to find free places to set up camp with a good view. It's not hard out here in the west.


    What to pack? That depends on what you need for the conditions, how much you can carry, and what you are willing to do without. If you are in a truck, you could bring a lot of stuff. Traveling by motorcycle forces tough decisions. Quality backpacking gear works well.

    I knew I took this geeky picture for a reason...rolleyes1.gif
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    Believe it or not, all that crap fits in the two aluminum side cases (panniers) or the nylon tank bag (top right). The panniers weigh in at about 80 lbs total and the tank bag is maybe 20 lbs. This is not exactly what I packed for this trip, but is typical for what I pack for 4-5 days on the road.

    On the left side is the riding jacket, pants, 2 pair of gloves, insulated and waterproof liners and boots. Most of this is worn. The liners go in the orange stuff sack when not worn.

    To the right of the riding gear is clothing which includes sweaters, shorts, t-shirts, sweat pants, socks, undies. I also carry trail running shoes. In addition to allowing comfort at the camp and while hiking, I consider them survival gear. There is no way I'd want to walk out of the wilderness in moto boots.

    The helmet is worn, of course, but I pack the clear face shield in case I must ride in the dark. The ball cap conceals the helmet hair. :D

    Behind the helmet is the small tent. I love this little REI 2 person tent. You could make do with a small tarp, but the tent also keeps out the insects. The sleeping bag is near the front tire. In front of the 2 water bottles is a red stuff sack containing a Big Agnes Air Core sleeping mat.

    In front of the helmet is a first aid kit including water purification tablets. In front of this is a row of motorcycle tools that include jumper cables, tire tools, patch kit, JB Weld, steel wire, wrench kits. The electric air compressor and fuel siphon hose are on the right. There are two inner tubes stuffed in the motorcycle fairing.

    Camera gear is in the front. I now carry 4 lenses. I made the tripod even smaller by adding a ball head. Most of the camera gear is packed in the tank bag.

    The kitchen is in the back right. I use a Jetboil. I usually carry 4-6 Mountain House Meals, a can of soup, baked crackers, Tuna Lunch packs, Instant Starbucks, and breakfast cereal bars. This was my breakfast in John's Canyon on the ill-fated morning.
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    Instant grits or oatmeal also make a good breakfast.
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    Can't Beat Camping
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    All Alone in a National Park with a View of Badwater Basin
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,904 moderator
    edited March 21, 2012
    Dave, your pile of stuff is about the same as mine. I've been using a Giant Loop Great Basin in lieu of the cases.

    My garage isn't as nice tho and I don't have giant beer keg in the corner lol3.gif
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  • jthomasjthomas Registered Users Posts: 454 Major grins
    edited March 21, 2012
    dave6253 wrote: »
    Camping also allows you to be out there for the best light. I try to avoid hotels and crowded campgrounds. I like to find free places to set up camp with a good view. It's not hard out here in the west.

    But if you have a couple of hundred grand to spare, you could do it in complete comfort:

    Earthroamer.
  • Stella7dStella7d Registered Users Posts: 201 Major grins
    edited March 21, 2012
    Great story! I've been to that region and it's beautiful! Hope your recovery goes well!
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,694 moderator
    edited March 22, 2012
    jthomas wrote: »
    But if you have a couple of hundred grand to spare, you could do it in complete comfort:

    Earthroamer.

    One of these will be substantially cheaper than an Earth Roamer, and still pretty comfortable.

    Again, great series of images, and I want to see that road, as I have seen it from Muley Point as you demonstrated it in your image.
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  • dave6253dave6253 Registered Users Posts: 229 Major grins
    edited March 22, 2012
    If I had a couple hundred grand to spare I'd probably spend it all on motorcycles and camera gear;)
    I do see they have a toy hauler model though... Cool trucks.

    Thanks Stella7d!

    Have you ever accidentally imported an unrelated photo along with your brackets into Photomatix Pro?
    I went crazy with the colors after realizing my mistake.

    Ugly or Psychedelic Masterpiece?
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  • A-1 BossA-1 Boss Registered Users Posts: 120 Major grins
    edited March 23, 2012
    I'm also a rider and I live close to the area you visited. Those are some of the best Southwest shots I have seen! Great job. Great story.
  • Allan FGAllan FG Registered Users Posts: 492 Major grins
    edited March 23, 2012
    dave6253 wrote: »

    Ugly or ?
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    I would go with Psychedelic Masterpiece thumb.gif
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