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Old Aug-07-2012, 09:25 AM
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we figured it out. my \program files\ is on C: but my userprofile is on D: ... the code was doing a CD "userprofile" but not 'changing drive' ("D:"). this stupid annoyance has been a "feature" since MSDOS 2.0 when directories and the CD command were first introduced (PCDOS 1.x had no subdirectories).
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Aha! Thanks hanging in there, I'm glad David and you were able to work it out!
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Old Aug-18-2012, 06:46 AM
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Watermark Issue - Lightroom Plug-in settings vs. Online SmugMug Gallery settings
There appears to be a issue/conflict with watermark settings in the Lightroom Plug-in vs. the online gallery settings in SmugMug.

If you enable watermarking for a SmugMug online gallery (via the web), then the next time you upload an image to that gallery via the Lightroom Plug-in, watermarking is also enabled in the plug-in. In essence, the watermark is embedded in the uploaded image.

The opposite is also true... if you disable watermarking in the Plug-in, then watermarking is also disabled in the online gallery settings. In essence, images in that gallery are now unprotected with a watermark.

I find this to be an issue and was wondering if others have noticed this? If so, is there a work around? Thanks!
Old Aug-19-2012, 05:55 AM
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What specific setting within the plug in do you refer to? It's normal that if you turn on watermarking in the gallery settings of a gallery that this also syncs with the "edit gallery" settings for that gallery within Lightroom. Those two settings are linked.
And with this setting, no watermark is applied to the original upon uploading. Watermarks are applied by SmugMug to display copies only.

On the other hand, if you were to enable the watermarking setting in the Lightroom publishing manager, that would make Lightroom apply a watermark to the original photo before uploading. Such watermark is not compatible with SmugMug's watermark feature and thus would be included on all prints.

I just double checked it on my account, enabling watermarking in one gallery via the browser and then publishing a photo via Lightroom to that gallery, worked as it should. Lightroom uploaded an unwatermarked original for which SmugMug added the watermark per the gallery settings to display copies of the photo. The Lightroom publishing manager watermarking setting was unaffected.
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Old Aug-20-2012, 09:52 AM
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I'm using the same settings that you are to test the watermarking options, and you're right about the two being synched together. BUT this is only true if you have "Sync Gallery Settings Before Edit" enabled in the Lightroom Plug-in. I just think the watermark feature is confusing and it may not perform as one might expect.

For example, if I have "Sync Gallery Settings Before Edit" enabled in the Lightroom Plug-in, then Lightroom and SmugMug ARE (as you've stated) synched together. If I for some reason don't want that option enabled, then the settings in Lightroom and SmugMug are independent of one another and I may end up with a result I didn't expect.

This is why/how I end up with the unexpected results that I have. Having to review the watermark settings on both sides (Lightroom/SmugMug) each and every time I upload seems to be too much work to me. Maybe the "Sync Gallery Settings Before Edit" option should be available for each gallery? I don't know, I just think it could be more clear as to what the actual setting will be BEFORE uploading via Lightroom.

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What specific setting within the plug in do you refer to? It's normal that if you turn on watermarking in the gallery settings of a gallery that this also syncs with the "edit gallery" settings for that gallery within Lightroom. Those two settings are linked.
And with this setting, no watermark is applied to the original upon uploading. Watermarks are applied by SmugMug to display copies only.

On the other hand, if you were to enable the watermarking setting in the Lightroom publishing manager, that would make Lightroom apply a watermark to the original photo before uploading. Such watermark is not compatible with SmugMug's watermark feature and thus would be included on all prints.

I just double checked it on my account, enabling watermarking in one gallery via the browser and then publishing a photo via Lightroom to that gallery, worked as it should. Lightroom uploaded an unwatermarked original for which SmugMug added the watermark per the gallery settings to display copies of the photo. The Lightroom publishing manager watermarking setting was unaffected.
Old Aug-21-2012, 01:59 AM
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It is my understanding that the "sync gallery settings before edit" is only relevant for people that change gallery settings on SmugMug AND in Lightroom. If you do that, you should just enable the setting and then you won't have any problems.
I can't see any good reason for you not to enable the setting IF you do change gallery settings on both ends (which not everyone does).
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Old Aug-21-2012, 07:19 AM
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I think the challenge I'm having with this setting is that for certain galleries, I want to be able to embed a watermark in the image itself. Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but that's just the option I'd prefer to have. I guess I'll have to look into all of this a bit more.
Old Aug-22-2012, 04:28 AM
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I think the challenge I'm having with this setting is that for certain galleries, I want to be able to embed a watermark in the image itself. Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but that's just the option I'd prefer to have. I guess I'll have to look into all of this a bit more.
That's not an option available on a per gallery or photo basis from within Lightroom. You can only enable that Lightroom watermark for the whole publish service and I would advise against doing that as it creates all sorts of problems if you want to order prints or offer downloads for sale.
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Old Aug-22-2012, 06:17 AM
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That's not an option available on a per gallery or photo basis from within Lightroom. You can only enable that Lightroom watermark for the whole publish service and I would advise against doing that as it creates all sorts of problems if you want to order prints or offer downloads for sale.
Well, I'm aware of the issues... I guess that's why I'm inquiring about it. As mentioned, I don't want all the photographs on my site available for purchase. The extra protection of having an embedded watermark provides some reassurance that they won't be somehow downloaded without a watermark.

Maybe the Sync option could also be available on a individual gallery basis so that the default setting for the publish service can be overwritten if needed? Just a thought...
Old Aug-22-2012, 06:56 AM
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Well, I'm aware of the issues... I guess that's why I'm inquiring about it. As mentioned, I don't want all the photographs on my site available for purchase. The extra protection of having an embedded watermark provides some reassurance that they won't be somehow downloaded without a watermark.

Maybe the Sync option could also be available on a individual gallery basis so that the default setting for the publish service can be overwritten if needed? Just a thought...
If you use the watermark within SmugMug, it'll watermark your display copies. The original is never watermarked by us, but you can easily (and should if you use watermarks) disable access to originals by setting 'largest size' in the gallery settings to anything else than original. That would prevent your originals from being available for viewing and thus no one could grab it without a watermark.

As far as I can tell, the watermarking setting in the SmugMug publish service is one provided by default from Lightroom and it's not something we specificially added. It's really only useful for Basic or Power users that do not have the watermarking feature of the Pro account.
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Old Aug-22-2012, 07:49 AM
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[...]The original is never watermarked by us, but you can easily (and should if you use watermarks) disable access to originals by setting 'largest size' in the gallery settings to anything else than original. That would prevent your originals from being available for viewing and thus no one could grab it without a watermark.[...]
That's certainly good to know. I would think that any display version - even the original - would be watermarked if I selected the watermark option. It's these little caveats that make me so nervous about the watermarking options. This is a prime example of why I want the original to have an embedded watermark.., so that I can protect my images against any loopholes like this one.
Old Aug-27-2012, 04:40 AM
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That's certainly good to know. I would think that any display version - even the original - would be watermarked if I selected the watermark option. It's these little caveats that make me so nervous about the watermarking options. This is a prime example of why I want the original to have an embedded watermark.., so that I can protect my images against any loopholes like this one.
An update... I've found that IF the watermark option is enabled in the Publish Service (for the SmugMug Plugin) it will apply a watermark to all images, regardless of the gallery level setting. In fact, if watermarking is enabled in the Publish Service AND the Gallery, watermarking is applied twice. In essence, the Plug-in settings are NOT necessarily in sync with the online SmugMug settings.

The only way to set the watermark option at a gallery level is to disable watermarking at the Publish Service level, and then set it to whatever is preferred at the gallery level. Just an FYI...
Old Oct-05-2012, 09:44 AM
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I have just upgraded my Smugmug plugin on my LR3. It seems that any updates i do to images are not being transfered to my smugmug site. My version is 1.0.5.3. I made several adjustment, like remove photos and that seems to work. But the crop, color correction etc. don't seem to be updating on the site.

Is anyone else experiencing the same issue. If you have a fix or if I am doing something wrong. Help would be appreciated.

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Old Oct-05-2012, 10:47 AM
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That's certainly good to know. I would think that any display version - even the original - would be watermarked if I selected the watermark option. It's these little caveats that make me so nervous about the watermarking options. This is a prime example of why I want the original to have an embedded watermark.., so that I can protect my images against any loopholes like this one.
The SmugMug watermark tool is an overlay over your jpeg. We do not watermark originals because that is the file that we make prints from. The watermark should be obtrusive enough to prevent theft, but of course you wouldn't want that on a print. If you want the prints to have your copyright then the print mark tool is available.

Whether you are adding a Lightroom generated (tiny and easily cropped off) watermark or not, you should still disable access to your original to prevent it from being screen shot saved by a viewer - there is nothing to stop screenshot saving. Limiting the number of pixels by limiting viewing sizes, and using the SmugMug watermark tool, are your best protection against image theft.
Old Oct-05-2012, 10:55 AM
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Can you write the heroes with links to the specific galleries please? I see you've used both the SmugMug publish service and the Jfreidl plugin in the last two days. We'd need to know more about which images you were trying to have republished - e.g. are they copies, or the originals.

Also, we have a new Lightroom Publish help page that might give you some clues too.

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I have just upgraded my Smugmug plugin on my LR3. It seems that any updates i do to images are not being transfered to my smugmug site. My version is 1.0.5.3. I made several adjustment, like remove photos and that seems to work. But the crop, color correction etc. don't seem to be updating on the site.

Is anyone else experiencing the same issue. If you have a fix or if I am doing something wrong. Help would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Old Oct-05-2012, 11:30 AM
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Can you write the heroes with links to the specific galleries please? I see you've used both the SmugMug publish service and the Jfreidl plugin in the last two days. We'd need to know more about which images you were trying to have republished - e.g. are they copies, or the originals.

Also, we have a new Lightroom Publish help page that might give you some clues too.
You are right I have been all over the map. But I mainly have been using the Official SmugMug Plugin. I have been adjusting the Originals and Copies.

This is the main gallery i have been working on... http://thepixelhoarder.smugmug.com/P...9764&k=PvJ2Bgd
Old Oct-06-2012, 01:09 AM
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You are right I have been all over the map. But I mainly have been using the Official SmugMug Plugin. I have been adjusting the Originals and Copies.

This is the main gallery i have been working on... http://thepixelhoarder.smugmug.com/Photography/Surfing/09-30-12-Surf-Riviera-Beach/25666080_d3Bbqq#!i=2119949764&k=PvJ2Bgd
Please contact us at the HelpDesk with your details as we'll have to look at that more closely. Thanks.
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Old Oct-30-2012, 09:26 PM
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I have updated to latest smugmug plugin for Lightroom 3.6 and since then i have not been able to publish any photos. It says in Lightroom that "Updating published Collection" and shows the moving bar as well but does not upload the photos to the gallery.

Can someone please assist.
Old Oct-31-2012, 01:03 AM
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I have updated to latest smugmug plugin for Lightroom 3.6 and since then i have not been able to publish any photos. It says in Lightroom that "Updating published Collection" and shows the moving bar as well but does not upload the photos to the gallery.

Can someone please assist.
Did you try to close Lightroom and then try again after restarting it?

If you still have an issue, please write the HelpDesk with a link to your site so we can troubleshoot.
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Old Nov-15-2012, 03:56 PM
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...We may also provide an option that allows photos on SmugMug and not in the local LR catalog to be downloaded....

Cheers, David
Just started syncing btw. LR4 and SmugMug. The integration of the galleries inside LR4 is flawless. However, preexisting comments, PicMonkey edits, and other changes made in SmugMug don't appear to sync over to LR4.

Without the ability to download edits or missing photos into LR4, the value of SmugMug's web-interface is diminished.

I hope you can include this feature to strengthen your awesome integration.
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