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Old Sep-15-2012, 06:27 AM
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Bird feeders for photography?
Has anyone built a bird feeder expressly for photography? Would you like to share some pictures of it?

I am in the planning stages and would love to see some other designs and possibly get some tips and suggestions from people with experience and maybe save some time by not making common mistakes etc.

You input would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Sep-15-2012, 07:56 AM
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Has anyone built a bird feeder expressly for photography? Would you like to share some pictures of it?

I am in the planning stages and would love to see some other designs and possibly get some tips and suggestions from people with experience and maybe save some time by not making common mistakes etc.

You input would be greatly appreciated.
They work great. Photos at the feeders themselves are not attractive IMO.

I string some wild grapevines that I cut from the roadways to make a nice perch.





My feeders are strategically placed outside by bedroom window in the proper light.
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Old Sep-15-2012, 08:43 AM
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Ric, where do you shoot from? I mean do you shoot from inside through a glass window, or open window, or outside? If you shoot from inside, I'd like to know what glass cleaner you use, because your windows are a heck of a lot cleaner than mine! Best, Pam
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Old Sep-15-2012, 09:36 AM
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Ric, where do you shoot from? I mean do you shoot from inside through a glass window, or open window, or outside? If you shoot from inside, I'd like to know what glass cleaner you use, because your windows are a heck of a lot cleaner than mine! Best, Pam
Usually I lower the upper half of the window...screen previously removed.

I have shot thru a clean window when the weather was unbearable. The problem isn't dirt, it's condensation from my breathe on the viewfinder and window both.

I have a portable blind...but my bedroom is much more comfy and I get a better angle.
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Old Sep-15-2012, 12:35 PM
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Wow. Great pictures.
Love the perches. Gives me food for thought now. Thanks.

Wold love to be able to shoot from inside the house but that is not going to be possible.
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Old Sep-16-2012, 04:27 PM
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Usually I lower the upper half of the window...screen previously removed.

I have shot thru a clean window when the weather was unbearable. The problem isn't dirt, it's condensation from my breathe on the viewfinder and window both.

I have a portable blind...but my bedroom is much more comfy and I get a better angle.
What a good idea! I think I could do something similar. Have to think about the light. Many thanks, Ric! Best, Pam
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Old Sep-16-2012, 08:28 PM
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Wow, great idea, I never thought of that. I've got a feeder about 100 feet from the house, on a line between 2 trees, because it's pretty safe from my cats (no hits in three years). Some of the birds act like pigs and dominate the feeder but most visit the feeder and then hang out in the trees, and a blind would be good to get them. The birds use anything that's stable, so that's branches, grapevines, bush tops, tight lines, etc. I think you could choose something you feel would make a good picture if a bird perched on it, and put it near your feeder.

Ric, your pictures blow away most of what I've shot; what lens on what body are you using?
Old Sep-16-2012, 08:36 PM
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Hey Ric,
I am curious about the depth of field on these images. EXIF says f/6.3 and f/8 but you have a completely blurred background. Is this because you are very close with the 400mm?

I assume the BG is quite a distance away but just how close are you to the birds? I was out measuring in my yard to see how far away I needed to build the perches from where I will be positioned. I also will use a 400mm a my primary lens so any info would be helpful. Once I build it there is no turning back...
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Old Sep-17-2012, 06:11 AM
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Ric, your pictures blow away most of what I've shot; what lens on what body are you using?
The 100-400 on a 7D. Remember....I don't post the stinkers!

Also, learning processing techniques are every bit as important as photographic techniques.
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Old Sep-17-2012, 06:19 AM
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Hey Ric,
I am curious about the depth of field on these images. EXIF says f/6.3 and f/8 but you have a completely blurred background. Is this because you are very close with the 400mm?

I assume the BG is quite a distance away but just how close are you to the birds? I was out measuring in my yard to see how far away I needed to build the perches from where I will be positioned. I also will use a 400mm a my primary lens so any info would be helpful. Once I build it there is no turning back...
You are correct on all counts.

You have to be close for small birds. I'm 20 feet away.

Attracting the little ones will also attract the larger predators.


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Old Sep-17-2012, 03:03 PM
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Beauty shot of the hawk.
I can see it is all about the light. Do you ever use flash?
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Old Sep-17-2012, 05:40 PM
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Be careful using flash with birds. In my experience, you must shoot strictly manual flash, and if you're going to shoot off camera you can't use any kind of triggering system that uses light. The birds will jump on the pre-flashes. Yes, their reflexes are that fast. I have a (virtual) trashcan full of images of blurry wings to prove my hypothesis.
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Old Sep-18-2012, 05:23 AM
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Beauty shot of the hawk.
I can see it is all about the light. Do you ever use flash?
Thanks.

I never use flash...that's what high iso is for. (I never go past 1000 on that)

Just wait for the right natural light.

BTW...Blue Jays love peanuts in the shell.
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Old Sep-18-2012, 06:39 AM
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Well, at the risk of arguing with the professor I'd respectfully offer that flash can help your images on occasion, say with a strongly backlit bird. Using a Better Beamer can really get that flash out there.
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Old Sep-18-2012, 06:48 AM
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BTW...Blue Jays love peanuts in the shell.
I thought the Blue Jays in my back yard were just nuts... pardon the pun. I was feeding a chipmunk who has been visiting my back yard every morning and afternoon for 3 years. I put a peanut down on the ground to see if he would come get it and ... out of no where blue jay swoops down and grabs it. I was thinking to myself what the hell is a blue jay going to do with a peanut. He took it over to a rock and boom! one shot breaks the thing open. Ever since then, I've put a couple peanuts out on a wall in my back yard and 3 blue jays have become frequent visitors.
Old Sep-18-2012, 07:54 AM
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Well, at the risk of arguing with the professor I'd respectfully offer that flash can help your images on occasion, say with a strongly backlit bird. Using a Better Beamer can really get that flash out there.
Do as you please. No arguments here....just my experience FWIW.
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Old Sep-18-2012, 09:01 AM
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I thought the Blue Jays in my back yard were just nuts...

They will take the shelled ones with unshelled peanuts right next to them.
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Old Sep-18-2012, 10:50 AM
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Here's my favorite bird feeder. Just a couple snapshots taken in the rain today. Full disclosure: I usually heal the peanut butter stuff out for publication. Oh, no flash was used in the creation of these images

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Old Sep-18-2012, 12:44 PM
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Oh, no flash was used in the creation of these images
Well...it's nice to see that you've learned something from this thread.

Cool feeder.


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Old Sep-18-2012, 03:16 PM
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And they were shot through double pane glass too. See, I learn from you all the time Ric!
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