PeterD's Old SM to New SM Conversion

PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
edited May 6, 2015 in SmugMug Customization
I wonder if someone can help me to customize my smugmug site - www.imageinuk.com.

I have tried to follow the various tutorials etc. and found that they would be very helpful if I was creating a new site but they are hopeless to convert an old SM site into new SM.

I have had several years away from SM due to voluntary work in setting up the HB50 events and now working on the Hayling Billy Heritage partnership project. During this time, the new SM was introduced and I did not have time to follow the progress and comments.

I have tried to modify my site but ended up hopelessly confused and in a muddle. What I wish to do is to replicate my current website to make it compatible with new SM.
Perhaps the place to start would be a clear description of the objects (galleries, pages etc) and an indication of what object to use at a particular level. Galleries are reasonably clear in that they contain a collection of photos. Folders and pages start to get confusing.

To illustrate the problems I wish to resolve, please look at the wildlife section from my drop down menu. This leads to various orders of fauna/families/species and image galleries. Most of the levels are customized pages which I understand new SM will ignore and will need to be re-created.

I also need to start over in my new SM customization but cannot find out how to do this.
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  • denisegoldbergdenisegoldberg Administrators Posts: 14,220 moderator
    edited May 3, 2015
    To illustrate the problems I wish to resolve, please look at the wildlife section from my drop down menu. This leads to various orders of fauna/families/species and image galleries. Most of the levels are customized pages which I understand new SM will ignore and will need to be re-created.

    I also need to start over in my new SM customization but cannot find out how to do this.
    Ah, now I see why you are concerned. I didn't realize that so many of your galleries were html-only galleries.

    The galleries will still exist and will present the text and photos but without your CSS to format them. I've just verified this by looking at what was an HTML-only gallery on my site in legacy but is now hidden from everyone but me (by setting the visibility to Private (Only Me)).

    Given the sheer number of the galleries that are using HTML and CSS you might want to see if adding the appropriate CSS to your theme (or to your site as a whole) will give you want you need in the context of a gallery (as opposed to creating a new page for each of the html-only galleries). If you have referenced the same CSS in each of your galleries, adding it once to your them or entire site CSS should fix all of the galleries.

    To do that you can either add a CSS block to Entire Site, or you can alter the CSS in your theme. Add the CSS required to support one of your existing pages (although I'm hoping you used the same names in all of your pages). Save the CSS, then open the gallery. Does that help? If it doesn't, please post a link to the gallery you are working on.

    --- Denise
  • denisegoldbergdenisegoldberg Administrators Posts: 14,220 moderator
    edited May 3, 2015
    To place a CSS block on Entire Site:

    Customize...
    Content and Design...
    Click Entire Site
    Drag a CSS content block onto the page, placing it below your other content.

    --- Denise
  • denisegoldbergdenisegoldberg Administrators Posts: 14,220 moderator
    edited May 3, 2015
    To update the CSS in your theme:

    Customize...
    Content and Design...
    Click Entire Site

    Either edit your existing theme or add a new one

    Hover over the Active Theme and click the wrench icon.
    Click the Advanced tab
    Scroll to the bottom of the window and click Edit on Custom CSS
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    I just did a quick page creation in NewSmug. I copied your gallery description html and pasted into a html content box on a NewSmug page. Using page because a gallery photos box is not needed.
    All the data is there so looks like it'll only take some html mod.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    Made a few changes to the html and added a ""just this page" CSS box. Looks like your whole html is
    okay with only a small repetitive change.

    HTML
    <div class="pageTitleLinks">
         Perching Birds (Passeriformes)
      <br>
    </div>
    <div class="myTextLinks">
        <p>A passerine is a bird of the order Passeriformes, which includes more than half of all bird species. Sometimes known as perching birds or, less accurately, as songbirds, the passerines form one of the most diverse terrestrial vertebrate orders: with over 5,000 identified species, it is roughly twice as species rich as the largest of the mammal orders, the Rodentia.</p>
        <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passeriformes">Wikipedia.</a></p>
    </div>
    
    <hr color="#6090d1" size="1">
    
    <br>
    
    
    <div class="boxBottom">
       <div class="myPhotoLinks">
          <a href="/Birds/Accentors-Prunellidae/Dunnock-Prunella-modularis/8812864_bPsWM">
            <img src="/photos/696544382_dVb3T-200x200.jpg">
          </a>
       </div>
       <div class="myTextLinks">
          <center><b>Accentor (Prunellidae)</b></center><br>
          <p>These are in the Sub Order Passeri</p>
          <p>The Accentor shares features of sparrows, warblers and small thrushes. In the UK there is only one species, the Dunnock (Prunella modularis.</p>
          <p>The Dunnock is often confused with the sparrow (it is sometimes called a hedge sparrow) but the sharp pointed beak is a dead giveaway. If disturbed, the bird will fly at low level, straight into the thickest bush it can find. Unusually, these birds form mating trios in the breeding season. Either 2 males and a female or 2 females and a male.</p>
          <p>They nest in thick shrub or low down in conifers. Their main food source are insects.These birds do not migrate and can be seen all the year round in the UK.</p>
          <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prunellidae">Wikipedia.</a></p>
       </div>
       [COLOR=red][strike][COLOR=#bbbbbb][B]<div class="spacer"></div>[/B][/COLOR][/strike][/COLOR]
       [COLOR=Red]<div style="clear: both;"></div>[/COLOR]
    </div>
    
    <br>
    <hr color="#6090d1" size="1">
    <br>
    ...
    ...
    
    New CSS box
    .sm-page-widget-html {color:#6090D1}
    
    .pageTitleLinks {text-align:center; font-size:16pt}
    
    .myPhotoLinks {
      float: left;
      /* allows the text to flow to the right */
      padding: 0 20px 0 20px;
    }
    
    .myTextLinks {
      text-align: justify;
      padding: 0 20px;
    }
    
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    Allen wrote: »
    I just did a quick page creation in NewSmug. I copied your gallery description html and pasted into a html content box on a NewSmug page. Using page because a gallery photos box is not needed.
    All the data is there so looks like it'll only take some html mod.

    Thanks Allen, this is the kick start I needed. I shall create a set of cascading pages leading to the species galleries. I shall worry about drop down menus etc. when I have constructed the framework. Bear with me as time is not my friend at the moment but I shall make a start this evening.

    Thanks for your advice too Denise.

    Best wishes to you both.
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    NewSmug on left - Old Smug on right
    A little "minor" tweaking and all these type pages should covert to NewSmug using your current html.
    The important change is this.
    << remove
    <div style="clear: both;"> << change it to this
    Only changed html for the top bird.

    Changed the page width under layout.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    Thanks Allen, this is the kick start I needed. I shall create a set of cascading pages leading to the species galleries. I shall worry about drop down menus etc. when I have constructed the framework. Bear with me as time is not my friend at the moment but I shall make a start this evening.

    Thanks for your advice too Denise.

    Best wishes to you both.
    As long as you do not "Publish" you are the only one seeing this NewSmug and only when logged in.
    Visitors and logged out only Old Smug is visible. So take your time on the new site.

    Logged in, at the top of every page you can toggle back and forth between the old and new.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    Allen wrote: »
    I just did a quick page creation in NewSmug. I copied your gallery description html and pasted into a html content box on a NewSmug page. Using page because a gallery photos box is not needed.
    All the data is there so looks like it'll only take some html mod.

    I created the page, added html and the updated CSS and ended up with this>

    http://www.dgrin.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39973&stc=1&d=1430695671

    It looks as though the page has been created with two columns.
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    I created the page, added html and the updated CSS and ended up with this>

    http://www.dgrin.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39973&stc=1&d=1430695671

    It looks as though the page has been created with two columns.
    Looks like a missing closing div maybe. Can you post your html here?

    Paste it between [code] paste here [/code] tags.

    Click the # icon in the reply box, 3rd from the right.
    OR (edit)
    Also make sure when you drag the html block out to the page it spans the whole page before you let go.
    You might of put it on the same line as the breadcrumb.

    I think you can still drag the box to the right position under the breadcrumb.
    Grab the double arrow cross at the top left.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    That's one problem with working with someone in transition to the NewSmug. No one can see
    it but you logged in. The screen shot is very helpful.

    Working with a html widget which has its own CSS tab, not all CSS will apply and it has to
    go into a page CSS box. Some CSS will work in box CSS tab but not all.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    Thanks again. Code below (Part 1)
    [code]<html>
    <div class="pageTitleLinks">
    Perching Birds (Passeriformes)
    <br />
    </div>
    <div class="myTextLinks">
    <p>A passerine is a bird of the order Passeriformes, which includes more than half of all bird species. Sometimes known as perching birds or, less accurately, as songbirds, the passerines form one of the most diverse terrestrial vertebrate orders: with over 5,000 identified species, it is roughly twice as species rich as the largest of the mammal orders, the Rodentia.</p>
    <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passeriformes">Wikipedia.</a></p&gt;

    </div>

    <hr size="1" color="#6090d1">
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    <div class="boxBottom">
    <div class="myPhotoLinks">
    <a href="/Birds/Accentors-Prunellidae/Dunnock-Prunella-modularis/8812864_bPsWM">
    <img src="/photos/696544382_dVb3T-200x200.jpg">
    </a>
    </div>
    <div class="myTextLinks">
    <center><b>Accentor (Prunellidae)</b></center><br />
    <p>These are in the Sub Order Passeri</p>
    <p>The Accentor shares features of sparrows, warblers and small thrushes. In the UK there is only one species, the Dunnock (Prunella modularis.</p>
    <p>The Dunnock is often confused with the sparrow (it is sometimes called a hedge sparrow) but the sharp pointed beak is a dead giveaway. If disturbed, the bird will fly at low level, straight into the thickest bush it can find. Unusually, these birds form mating trios in the breeding season. Either 2 males and a female or 2 females and a male.</p>
    <p>They nest in thick shrub or low down in conifers. Their main food source are insects.These birds do not migrate and can be seen all the year round in the UK.</a></p>
    <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prunellidae">Wikipedia.</a></p&gt;
    </div>
    <div style="clear: both;"></div>
    </div>

    <br />
    <hr size="1" color="#6090d1">
    <br />

    <div class="boxBottom">
    <div class="myPhotoLinks">
    <a href="/Birds/Bombycillidae-Waxwing/Waxwing-Bombycilla-garrulus/15216987_fveFE">
    <img src="/photos/1138494073_ZHXBs-200x200.jpg">
    </a>
    </div>
    <div class="myTextLinks">
    <center><b>Waxwing (Bombycilla garrulus)</b></center><br />
    <p>These are in the Sub Order Passeri</p>
    <p>Waxwings are characterised by soft silky plumage.They have unique red tips to some of the wing feathers where the shafts extend beyond the barbs; in the Bohemian and Cedar Waxwings, these tips look like sealing wax, and give the group its common name. The legs are short and strong, and the wings are pointed. The male and female have the same plumage. All three species have mainly brown plumage, a black line through the eye and black under the chin, a square-ended tail with a red or yellow tip, and a pointed crest. The bill, eyes, and feet are dark.</p>
    <p>Their main food is fruit, which they pick from late summer though winter. In the spring, their diet changes to sap, buds and flowers. They also eat insects when these are abundant.</p>
    <p>They breed and are normally resident in Northern Europe. They are not normally long-distance migrants but they sporadically move South and west in search of food in the winter. It is on these occasions that they might be seen in the UK.</a></p>
    <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waxwing">Wikipedia.</a></p&gt;
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    <div style="clear: both;"></div>
    </div>

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    <div class="boxBottom">
    <div class="myPhotoLinks">
    <a href="/Birds/Buntings-Emberizidae-1/14649326_hGfWT">
    <img src="/photos/585418732_pekbd-200x200.jpg">
    </a>
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    <div class="myTextLinks">
    <center><b>Bunting (Emberizidae)</b></center><br />
    <p>These are a group of Eurasian and African birds.They look very similar to a Finch but have slimmer bodies. The bill has has a characteristic thin upper mandible fitting onto a thicker lower mandible which has a curved cutting edge. The tails are dark with a broad white edge except for the Corn Bunting where the tail is plainer.</p>
    <p>These birds are sead eating with habits similar to Finches.</p>
    <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emberizidae">Wikipedia.</a></p&gt;
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    <div style="clear: both;"></div>
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    <div class="boxBottom">
    <div class="myPhotoLinks">
    <a href="/Birds/Crows--Corvidae/14653763_5rzP6">
    <img src="/photos/716395759_vrwMP-200x200.jpg">
    </a>
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    <div class="myTextLinks">
    <center><b>Crows (Corvidae) </b></center><br />
    <p>Medium to large, heavily built Paserines. They are quick to learn and can often be seen raiding litter bins, even those with lids requiring skill to access. Jackdaw and Ravens are very skilled fliers, often seen in aerial combat, whilst Magpies and Jays only have short fluttering flights.</p>
    <p>They are sociable and often seen in flocks. They will eat almost anything, vegetable or animal matter.</p>
    <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvidae">Wikipedia.</a></p&gt;
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    <div style="clear: both;"></div>
    </div>

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    <div class="boxBottom">
    <div class="myPhotoLinks">
    <a href="/Birds/Finches--Fringillidae/14655035_NLNQY">
    <img src="/photos/583728716_YX7S7-200x200.jpg">
    </a>
    </div>
    <div class="myTextLinks">
    <center><b>Finches (Fringillidae)</b></center><br />
    <p>A large group of relatively small Paserines.They have a powerful and undulating flight, They feed on seeds and insects.</p>
    <p>They are sociable and often seen in flocks.</p>
    <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fringillidae">Wikipedia.</a></p&gt;
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    <div style="clear: both;"></div>
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    <div class="boxBottom">
    <div class="myPhotoLinks">
    <a href="/Birds/Flycatcher-Muscicapidae/14663659_eqZKv">
    <img src="/photos/963789897_gRaNY-200x200.jpg">
    </a>
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    <div class="myTextLinks">
    <center><b>Old World Flycatcher (Muscicapidae) </b></center><br />
    <p>Muscicapidae is a large family of small passerine birds restricted to the Old World. These are mainly small arboreal insectivores, many of which, as the name implies, take their prey on the wing..</p>
    <p>The more northerly species migrate south in winter, ensuring a continuous diet of insects.</p>
    <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscicapidae">Wikipedia.</a></p&gt;
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    <div style="clear: both;"></div>
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    <br />
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    <div class="boxBottom">
    <div class="myPhotoLinks">
    <a href="/Birds/Lark-Alaudidae/14664018_UtaVU">
    <img src="/photos/578858254_vAaXp-200x200.jpg">
    </a>
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    <div class="myTextLinks">
    <center><b>Lark (Alaudidae) </b></center><br />
    <p>Larks are small to medium-sized passerine birds. They have more elaborate calls than most birds, and often extravagant songs given in display flight. With these song flights, males defend their breeding territories and attract mates. Most species build nests on the ground, usually cups of dead grass, but in some species more complicated and partly domed.</p>
    <p>In many respects, including long tertial feathers, larks resemble other ground birds such as pipits. However, in larks the tarsus (the lowest leg bone, connected to the toes) has only one set of scales on the rear surface, which is rounded. Pipits and all other songbirds have two plates of scales on the rear surface, which meet at a protruding rear edge.</p>
    <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaudidae">Wikipedia.</a></p&gt;
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    <div class="boxBottom">
    <div class="myPhotoLinks">
    <a href="/Birds/Wagtails-Longclaws-and-Pipits/14664135_UU99Y">
    <img src="/photos/584883777_83EdU-200x200.jpg">
    </a>
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    <div class="myTextLinks">
    <center><b>Wagtails Longclaws and Pipits (Motacillidae) </b></center><br />
    <p>Motacillidae are a family of small passerine birds with medium to long tails. The longclaws are entirely restricted to the Afrotropics (only included here for completeness). Wagtails are predominately found in Europe, Africa and Asia. Pipits have a wider distribution, being found across mostly in the Old World but occurring also in the Americas and oceanic islands such as New Zealand and the Falklands.</p>
    <p>They have long, pale legs with long toes and claws, particularly the hind toe. Most motacillids are ground-feeding insectivores. They occupy almost all available habitats, from the shore to high mountains. Wagtails prefer wetter habitats to the pipits.</p>
    <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motacillidae">Wikipedia.</a></p&gt;
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    <div class="boxBottom">
    <div class="myPhotoLinks">
    <a href="/Birds/Sparrow-Passeridae/14672557_CeCWt">
    <img src="/photos/716235838_ro7q4-200x200.jpg">
    </a>
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    <div class="myTextLinks">
    <center><b>Sparrow (Passeridae) </b></center><br />
    <p>Generally, sparrows tend to be small, plump brown-grey birds with short tails and stubby, powerful beaks. The differences between sparrow species can be subtle. They are primarily seed-eaters, though they also consume small insects. A few species scavenge for food around cities and, like gulls or pigeons, will happily eat virtually anything in small quantities.</p>
    <p>The Old World true sparrows are indigenous to Europe, Africa and Asia. In Australia and the Americas, early settlers imported some species which quickly naturalised, particularly in urban and degraded areas. House Sparrows, for example, are now found throughout North America, in every state of Australia except Western Australia, and over much of the heavily populated parts of South America.</p>
    <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passeridae">Wikipedia.</a></p&gt;
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    <div style="clear: both;"></div>
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  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    Thanks again. Code below (Part 2)
    <div class="boxBottom">
       <div class="myPhotoLinks">
          <a href="/Birds/Starling-Sturnidae/14672785_pkS9H">
            <img src="/photos/514676915_RDkuq-200x200.jpg">
          </a>
       </div>
       <div class="myTextLinks">
          <center><b>Starling (Sturnidae) </b></center><br />
          <p>Starlings are small to medium-sized passerine birds in the family Sturnidae. Starlings have strong feet, their flight is strong and direct, and they are very gregarious. Their preferred habitat is fairly open country, and they eat insects and fruit.</p>
          <p>Starlings have diverse and complex vocalizations, and have been known to embed sounds from their surroundings into their own calls, including car alarms, and human speech patterns. The birds can recognize particular individuals by their calls, and are currently the subject of research into the evolution of human language.</p>
          <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturnidae">Wikipedia.</a></p>
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          <a href="/Birds/Martins-and-Swallows/14674227_AHfxW">
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       <div class="myTextLinks">
          <center><b>Martins and Swallows (Hirundinidae) </b></center><br />
          <p>The swallows and martins are a group of passerine birds in the family Hirundinidae which are characterised by their adaptation to aerial feeding. Swallow is used colloquially in Europe as a synonym for the Barn Swallow.</p>
          <p>Their body shape allows for very efficient flight, which costs 50-75% less for swallows than equivalent passerines of the same size. Swallows usually forage at around 30–40 km/h, although they are capable of reaching speeds of between 50–65 km/h when traveling.</p>
          <p>Lots more information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirundinidae">Wikipedia.</a></p>
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          <a href="/Birds/Thrush-Turdidae/14694812_vussj">
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       <div class="myTextLinks">
          <center><b>Thrush (Turdidae)</b></center><br />
          <p>Thrushes are plump, soft-plumaged, small to medium-sized birds, inhabiting wooded areas, and often feed on the ground or eat small fruit.</p>
          <p>They are insectivorous, but most species also eat worms, snails, and fruit. Many species are permanently resident in warm climes, while others migrate to higher latitudes during summer, often over considerable distances.</p>
          <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turdidae">Wikipedia.</a></p>
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          <a href="/Birds/Tit-Paridae/14695576_JmsFr">
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       <div class="myTextLinks">
          <center><b>Tit (Paridae)</b></center><br />
          <p>The tits, chickadees, and titmice constitute Paridae, a large family of small passerine birds which occur in the northern hemisphere and Africa.</p>
          <p>These birds are mainly small stocky woodland species with short stout bills. Some have crests. They range in length from 10 to 22 centimetres. They are adaptable birds, with a mixed diet including seeds and insects. They are hole-nesting birds, typically using trees, although some species build nests on the ground. They lay anything from three to nineteen speckled white eggs, depending on species.</p>
          <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_%28bird%29">Wikipedia.</a></p>
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          <a href="/Birds/Long-tailed-Tit-Aegithalidae/14698022_zsany">
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       <div class="myTextLinks">
          <center><b>Long-tailed Tit (Aegithalidae)</b></center><br />
          <p>All the Aegithalidae are forest birds, particularly forest edge and understory habitats. They are small birds, measuring 9–14 cm (3.5–5.5 in) in length, including the relatively long tail, and weighing just 4.5–9 g (0.16–0.32 oz). Their plumage is typically dull grey or brown, although some species have white markings and the Long-tailed Tit has some pinkish colour.</p>
          <p>They are omnivorous, primarily eating insects and other invertebrates.[4] Plant material is taken occasionally during the winter. The family generally forages in arboreally, usually in the shrub layer or canopy, and seldom visits the ground. Prey is generally glean from branches, leaves and buds, more rarely is it taken in the air.</p>
          <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegithalidae">Wikipedia.</a></p>
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          <center><b>True Warbler (Sylviidae)</b></center><br />
          <p>The Sylviidae mainly occur as breeding species, as the name implies, in Europe, Asia and, to a lesser extent Africa. However, most birds of temperate regions are strongly migratory, and winter in the latter continent or tropical Asia. Many are accomplished songbirds, though perhaps not as much as other warblers or some thrushes.</p>
          <p>The majority of species are monogamous and build simple, cup-shaped nests in dense vegetation. They lay between two and six eggs per clutch, depending on species. Both parents typically help in raising the young, which are able to fly at around two weeks of age.</p>
          <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylviidae">Wikipedia.</a></p>
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          <p>There are about 80 species of true wrens in about 20 genera. The genus eponymous of the family is Troglodytes. Only one species of Troglodytes occurs in the Old World, where in Anglophone regions it is commonly known simply as the "wren" as it is the originator of the name; it is called the Winter Wren in North America.</p>
          <p>Wrens are mainly small and inconspicuous, except for their loud and often complex songs. These birds have short wings and they cannot see at night. Several species often hold their tails upright and sleep on the ground. Wrens are insectivorous, eating insects and spiders but they will also eat fish, small rodents and lizards.</p>
          <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wren">Wikipedia.</a></p>
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          <p>Nuthatches are all in the single genus Sitta. Their name is derived from the placing of insects and seed into a crevice to hack at the food with their strong bills.</p>
          <p>Nuthatches are compact birds with short legs, compressed wings, and square 12-feathered tails. They have long, sturdy, pointed bills and strong toes with long claws. Nuthatches have blue-grey backs (violet-blue in some Asian species, which also have red or yellow bills) and white underparts, which are variably tinted with buff, orange, rufous or lilac. Although head markings vary between species, a long black eye stripe, with contrasting white supercilium, dark forehead and blackish cap is common.</p>
          <p>More information can be found on <a href="http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuthatch">Wikipedia.</a></p>
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          <p>The treecreepers are a family, Certhiidae, of small passerine birds, widespread in wooded regions of the Northern Hemisphere and sub-Saharan Africa. The family contains ten species in two genera, Certhia and Salpornis. Their plumage is dull-coloured, and as their name implies, they climb over the surface of trees in search of food</p>
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    What I found was the html code was to the left of page and the CSS was to the right hand side. I have corrected this and now have the following.
    The reason I had the first version is because I entered the HTML code and CSS code seperately and obviously placed the CSS in the wrong place.

    I have made another mistake on my second attempt. When selecting the block i am offered arrows where to place the HTML/CSS. I chose the upper arrow which meant the page title was at the bottom of the page.
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    Do not use tags, the box does not use them. I see a closing at the bottom in your posting.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    Per your last screen shot it looks good. Is it centered on the page?
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 3, 2015
    Allen wrote: »
    Per your last screen shot it looks good. Is it centered on the page?

    Yes it is centred but needs widening. Thanks for your comment re HTML tags - now removed.
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2015
    Help - disaster strikes
    Allen wrote: »
    That's one problem with working with someone in transition to the NewSmug. No one can see
    it but you logged in. The screen shot is very helpful.

    Working with a html widget which has its own CSS tab, not all CSS will apply and it has to
    go into a page CSS box. Some CSS will work in box CSS tab but not all.

    What a disaster. I created the web page 'Perching Birds' then tried to correct the error where the breadcrumb was in the bottom of the page and not at the top. I could not find a way to do this so I thought I would delete the page and start again. I was confident that any changes in New Smugmug would not affect my legacy SM - But it HAS. Not only was the new page deleted but also the legacy page.

    I can recover this but it will mean recreating both old and new SM pages. I am really beginning to lose confidence in the assurance we have all been given that customization of new SM will not affect the legacy site.
  • denisegoldbergdenisegoldberg Administrators Posts: 14,220 moderator
    edited May 4, 2015
    What a disaster. I created the web page 'Perching Birds' then tried to correct the error where the breadcrumb was in the bottom of the page and not at the top. I could not find a way to do this so I thought I would delete the page and start again. I was confident that any changes in New Smugmug would not affect my legacy SM - But it HAS. Not only was the new page deleted but also the legacy page.

    I can recover this but it will mean recreating both old and new SM pages. I am really beginning to lose confidence in the assurance we have all been given that customization of new SM will not affect the legacy site.
    If I remember correctly there is only one copy of the gallery - the container for the photos. In legacy you will see the photos in that gallery plus your legacy customizations. Until you unveil your new smugmug - at that point the new smug customizations will show.

    Are you applying your customization to the gallery or to a new page? If you were applying the changes to the gallery and you deleted the gallery, the gallery will be deleted in both places. If you created a page to use on new smug then you can safely delete the page.

    --- Denise
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2015
    If I remember correctly there is only one copy of the gallery - the container for the photos. In legacy you will see the photos in that gallery plus your legacy customizations. Until you unveil your new smugmug - at that point the new smug customizations will show.

    Are you applying your customization to the gallery or to a new page? If you were applying the changes to the gallery and you deleted the gallery, the gallery will be deleted in both places. If you created a page to use on new smug then you can safely delete the page.

    --- Denise

    I created the new page in new SM. The similar item in old SM was a gallery. I only deleted the new page but the gallery disappeared too. I have stopped working on customization until I know why this happened so that I can avoid this in the future. Fortunately, I am working on one item at a time which has limited the damage done.

    Certainly my experience so far has not been good. I just wish that SM would have left things alone.
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2015
    This is the gallery that seems to be missing in Old Smug. All actual galleries with photos look to be intact.
    http://www.imageinuk.com/Birds/Perching-Birds-Passeriformes/14641450_XqjgF

    Email the help desk and get them to find and recover it if truly deleted. I checked Waxwings and
    the photo gallery is still there so no photos should be gone.

    Have you looked through the tree in Organizer? The html gallery (old smug) should be somewhere.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2015
    I created the new page in new SM. The similar item in old SM was a gallery. I only deleted the new page but the gallery disappeared too. I have stopped working on customization until I know why this happened so that I can avoid this in the future. Fortunately, I am working on one item at a time which has limited the damage done.

    Certainly my experience so far has not been good. I just wish that SM would have left things alone.

    I have now rebuilt the page in new SM.

    Now my confidence has been shaken, can I ask the following.
    I would have thought that I should create a folder (Birds (Aves)) in new SM and move the page into it. Later, I shall have to move the relevant galleries into the same new folder. What are the risks in carrying this out in respect of my legacy SM?
    There seems to be no guides to customizing an existing site which has been customized with HTML galleries to overcome the old SM levels which I seem to recall was only 3.
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2015
    Allen wrote: »
    This is the gallery that seems to be missing in Old Smug. All actual galleries with photos look to be intact.
    http://www.imageinuk.com/Birds/Perching-Birds-Passeriformes/14641450_XqjgF

    Email the help desk and get them to find and recover it if truly deleted. I checked Waxwings and
    the photo gallery is still there so no photos should be gone.

    Have you looked through the tree in Organizer? The html gallery (old smug) should be somewhere.

    Thanks again for your reply - sorry missed it.

    If you use the navigation drop down menu, Birds/Perching Birds, you will see all the galleries as you have seen but NOT the Perching Bird page. The tree also does not show the Perching Bird gallery I set up in old SM.
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2015
    Everything in OldSmug should show in the tree in NewSmug. HTML/text type galleries in OldSmug would show with "no photos".
    So in NewSmug that HTML/text type gallery could be deleted. But I left all my OldSmug HTML/text type galleries in NewSmug until I unveiled.
    At that time I had created new pages to replace them. Only after unveiling did I delete them.

    I made no structural changes in NewSmug as this would affect OldSmug. I toggled to OldSmug for all new cats/sub-cats/galleries and photo uploads.
    The only thing done in NewSmug was creating HTLM/text PAGES to replace the galleries in OldSmug.
    I would not structurally re-organize anything before unveiling, only in Old Smug.
    NewSmug is for visual formatting of old smug data, making NewSmug look nice.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2015
    Thanks for your helpful advice again. Being pointed to those helpful(?) tutorials about New SmugMug certainly has not helped me. It has only added confusion and frustration and to think I asked for advice from the help desk, they saw what sort of site I had constructed and their only answer was to point me to the webinars etc.

    When I construct the replacement pages, these reside in the bottom of the tree and not in any folder. Does this matter?

    Thanks to your help and guidance, I feel I can continue create the new pages but stop when they are done and ask for more advice BEFORE I publish. Is there a way of using the new SM page in old SM to save me re-creating the HTML gallery without upsetting the applecart?

    Wow - all this to make things look pretty!
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2015
    To avoid confusion in writing: Cap "PAGES or PAGE" are pages you create, "pages or page" refer to anything that generically
    shows on the screen, homepage, , PAGES, folders or galleries

    It would be safe to create a folder (OldSmug sub-cat) under /birds (OldSmug cat) and put your bird PAGES in it. They would not
    show on the Bird (OldSmug cat) folder page unless you added a block that shows PAGES. Usually on a site-wide folder page you'd
    have a folder (sub-folders) box and gallery box. Then for each folder only the boxes that have content will show.

    But you have many other subject PAGES. You could create a top level folder to hold all PAGES, "My Pages". All in
    one place would be easier for site maintenance. Your menu would direct to each PAGE.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2015
    Allen wrote: »
    To avoid confusion in writing: Cap "PAGES or PAGE" are pages you create, "pages or page" refer to anything that generically
    shows on the screen, homepage, , PAGES, folders or galleries

    It would be safe to create a folder (OldSmug sub-cat) under /birds (OldSmug cat) and put your bird PAGES in it. They would not
    show on the Bird (OldSmug cat) folder page unless you added a block that shows PAGES. Usually on a site-wide folder page you'd
    have a folder (sub-folders) box and gallery box. Then for each folder only the boxes that have content will show.

    But you have many other subject PAGES. You could create a top level folder to hold all PAGES, "My Pages". All in
    one place would be easier for site maintenance. Your menu would direct to each PAGE.

    Thanks again. I shall take the latter option and drill down from there. I shall concern myself with the menu system later.
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2015
    Thanks again. I shall take the latter option and drill down from there. I shall concern myself with the menu system later.

    I have created a 'My Pages' folder and inserted some new pages into it.

    My Pages
    Birds (Aves)
    Birds of Prey
    Falcons and Caracaras (Falconiformes)
    Perching Birds (Paserifomnes)

    Just to try and see if my old SM menu system picks up the missing Perching Birds Page I changed the menu item from:
    <li><a class="drop" href="#nopick">Birds(Aves)
                  <!--[if gte IE 7]><!--></a><!--<![endif]--> <!--[if lte IE 6]><table><tr><td><![endif]-->
        <ul>
           <li><a href= "[COLOR="Red"]/Birds/Perching-Birds-Passeriformes/14641450_XqjgF[/COLOR]">Perching Birds (Passeriformes)</a></li>
    

    The old missing HTML gallery

    to:
    <li><a class="drop" href="#nopick">Birds(Aves)
                  <!--[if gte IE 7]><!--></a><!--<![endif]--> <!--[if lte IE 6]><table><tr><td><![endif]-->
        <ul>
           <li><a href= "[COLOR="red"]/My-Pages/Birds-Aves/Perching-Birds-Paseriformes[/COLOR]">Perching Birds (Passeriformes)</a></li>
    

    The new PAGE. This code change did not display the PAGE.

    The full menu code is given below:
    <div id="mysearch">SMUGSEARCH</div>
    
    <div class="menu">
    <ul>
    <li><a class="drop" href="#nopick">HOME PAGES
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           <li><a href="/Landscapes/Countryside/Chatley-Heath-Home-Page/14269046_mLZmz">Chatley Heath HOME</a></li>
           <li><a href="/Landscapes/Nature-Reserves/The-Oysterbeds/14084085_2bd5Y">The Oysterbed HOME</a></li>
           <li><a href="/Landscapes/Countryside/Langstone-Aggregates-Wharf/14108813_PSxKt">Langstone Aggregates Wharf HOME</a></li>
           <li><a href="/Landscapes/Countryside/Creech-Woods-Denmead-Home-Page/14353579_jBZpr">Creech Wood Denmead HOME</a></li>
           <li><a href="/Test-Images/Olympus-E5-Tests/14609316_v3e24">Olympus E5 Test  HOME</a></li>
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    <li><a href="/popular/1/517814143_EDGrJ">Popular Images</a></li>
    
    <li><a href="/Recent-Photos/">Recent Uploads</a></li>
    
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                   <li><a href="/Landscapes/Countryside/Portsmouth-Harbour/7881195_3XncP">Portsmouth Harbour</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Landscapes/Countryside/Portsdown-Hill/10016920_XeSZ2">Portsdown Hill</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Landscapes/Countryside/Creech-Woods-Denmead-Home-Page/14353579_jBZpr">Creech Wood Denmead</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Landscapes/Countryside/Chatley-Heath-Home-Page/14269046_mLZmz">Chatley Heath</a></li>
                   <li><a href=" /Landscapes/Countryside/Queen-Elizabeth-Country-Park/18292515_Pksjq2">Queen Elizabeth Country Park, Hampshire</a></li>
    
                   <li><a href="/Landscapes/Countryside/Queens-Enclosure/12197834_noXL3">Queens enclosure Cowplain</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Landscapes/Countryside/The-New-Forest/13434404_P4S9T">The New Forest</a></li>
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           <li><a href="/Landscapes/Town-Scenes">Town</a></li>
           <li><a class="drop" href="#nopick">Nature Reserves
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                   <li><a href="/Landscapes/Nature-Reserves/The-Oysterbeds/14084085_2bd5Y">The Oysterbeds,North Hayling</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Landscapes/Nature-Reserves/Farlington-Marshes/7971068_TAsqX">Farlington Marshes</a></li>
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           <li><a href="/Trains">Railways</a></li>
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           <li><a class="drop" href="#nopick">Invertibrates(Arthropoda)
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                   <li><a href="/Neuroptera/Ant-Lions-Lacewings-Neuroptera/11768392_2F2eG">Ant Lions and Lacewings(Neuroptera)</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Hymenoptera/Ants-Wasps-Bees-Hymenoptera/11780910_AjGyq">Ants, Wasps &amp; Bees(Hymenoptera)</a></li>
    
                   <li><a href="/Beetles-Coleoptera/Beetles-Coleoptera/11796685_cRENG">Beetles(Coleoptera)</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Hemiptera/Bugs-Hemiptera/11845594_ADo3Z">Bugs (Hemiptera)</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Homoptera/Bugs-Homoptera/11850254_3ioBn">Bugs (Homoptera)</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Lepidoptera/Moth-and-Butterfly-Lepidoptera/11658587_x8HKt">Butterflies &amp; Moths(Lepidoptera)</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Harvestmen-Opiliones/Harvestmen--Opiliones/13800047_c5wvz">Harvestmen (Opiliones)</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/gallery/14430752_MVXjs">Mayflies(Ephemeroptera)</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/gallery//14432120_9BtZv">Damselflies and Dragonflies(Odonata)</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Invertibrates-Arthropoda/Centipedes-Millipedes-Woodlice/14627501_3R3SA">Centipedes Millipedes &amp; Woodlice</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/gallery/14630721_rTXC6">Grasshopper, Cricket and Locust (Orthoptera)</a></li> 
                   <li><a href="/Scorpion-Flies-Mecoptera">Scorpian Flies(Mecopters)</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/Spiders-Araneae/Spiders-Aranea/12004873_vcZVh">Spiders(Araneae)</a></li>
                   <li><a href="/True-Flies-Diptera/True-Flies/11627358_mofg6">True Flies(Diptera)</a></li>
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           <li><a href= "/My-Pages/Birds-Aves/Perching-Birds-Paseriformes">Perching Birds (Passeriformes)</a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Birds-of-Prey/Falcons-and-Caracaras/14897552_PyS9J">Falcons and Caracaras (Falconiformes)</a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Birds-of-Prey-Accipitriformes/14824280_MbeUa">Diurnal Birds of Prey (Accipitriformes) </a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Owls-Strigiformes/Owl-Stringiformes/18164446_dH8vss">Owls (Strigiformes) </a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/GannetsCormorantsPelicans/15798705_h8qXX">Gannets, Cormorants and Pelicans (Pelecaniformes) </a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Waders-Gulls-and-Auks/15848110_7VgD5">Waders, Gulls, Tern and Auks (Charadriiformes)</a></li>
     
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Grebe-Podicipediformes/15831185_DSjKH">Grebes (Podicipediformes)</a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Herons-Storks-and-Ibises/Herons-Storks-and-Ibises/22267368_JK8ZFx">Herons, Storks and Ibises (Ciconiiformes)</a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Kingfishers-Alcedinidae">Kingfisher (Alcedo atthis)</a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Halcyonidae/Dacelo-novaeguineae/17950242_NdwfxP">Kookaburra(Dacelo)</a></li>
    
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Pigeons-and-Doves">Pigeons and Doves</a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Partridges-and-Pheasants">Partridges and Pheasants</a></li>
           <li><a href="/Birds/Penguins-Sphenisciformes/22165609_4VmqBH">Penguins (Sphenisciformes)</a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Rails-and-Crakes">Rails and Crakes</a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Wildfowl/Aquatic-Birds-Anseriformes/22190997_jv7Kvv">Ducks, Geese and Swans (Anseriformes)</a></li>
           <li><a href= "/Birds/Woodpecker-Picidae">Woodpecker (Picidae)</a></li>
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           <li><a class="drop" href="#nopick">Mammals
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                 <li><a href="/Mammals/Deer/8079578_PSrhB">Deer</a></li>
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  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2015
    I could be wrong but I feel like you're too focused on exactly duplicating your old site instead of taking advantage of the tools you have in new smug. From the sound of things, you have a lot of old HTML-only galleries and you are creating new pages to duplicate those. I'd highly recommend simply using galleries and captions, since this would be a whole lot easier to manage. You can make global changes to all galleries, but not to all pages. You can modify captions in a number of ways, both within smugmug and outside of smugmug, but modifying text on pages can be a real pain. And I'd ditch the HTML menu and create a new menu content block that could automatically pick up all your folders/galleries/pages and stay up to date as you change your site with absolutely no additional effort.

    Just my opinion though.

    Dave
  • PeterD-2009PeterD-2009 Registered Users Posts: 618 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2015
    pilotdave wrote: »
    I could be wrong but I feel like you're too focused on exactly duplicating your old site instead of taking advantage of the tools you have in new smug. From the sound of things, you have a lot of old HTML-only galleries and you are creating new pages to duplicate those. I'd highly recommend simply using galleries and captions, since this would be a whole lot easier to manage. You can make global changes to all galleries, but not to all pages. You can modify captions in a number of ways, both within smugmug and outside of smugmug, but modifying text on pages can be a real pain. And I'd ditch the HTML menu and create a new menu content block that could automatically pick up all your folders/galleries/pages and stay up to date as you change your site with absolutely no additional effort.

    Just my opinion though.

    Dave

    Hi Dave,

    Thanks for your reply. The website I created is not just about collections of photos but catalogs with several layers within. If I tried to create a perfect New SM site and ditch the HTML gallery pages then I would have to take my site off line to do this. The changes to the HTML in the New SM pages require little change. The reason for my last post was to describe the issue I have when using the modified HTML menu system to access the New SM Page I had created which replicated the Old SM HTML Gallery I had lost for some reason. I included the code I was using in the hope that this would trigger a suggested modification for this one case only. this would then restore my Old SM site so that it could continue to be fully operational whilst creating my New SM Pages etc.

    My strategy is to keep Old SM alive and well. It has served me well for a number of years. Build the framework for New SM, including the new menu system. When I am happy that it is working, then I will switch to New SM and delete all the old HTML galleries and menu system.

    At this stage, I will then start to look for more improvements within New SM and make the changes in a controlled manner and at a slower pace.
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,007 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2015
    The Page links from NewSmug will not work in OldSmug.

    Email the help desk with the link of the missing gallery. They should be able to reinstate it.
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