Boycott emoticons!

winnjewettwinnjewett Registered Users Posts: 329 Major grins
edited May 5, 2005 in Dgrin Forum Support
As many of you know, I'm not one to hold back when something is bothering me. EMOTICONS. I hate them, especially that yellow one with the stupid smile and curved eyelids that keeps rolling back and forth. They take over my peripheral vision as I type every message. They are nauseating.

You know, before the age of computers, people survived for hundreds of years writing letters to each other without the aide of bouncing, rolling, scratching, shrugging, crying, winking circles. If there aren't enough written words to express yourself properly, why not opt for the tried and true :-) and all of his cousins? It is bad enough when web advertisers place annoying, distracting ads on sites we have no control over, but why in God's name would anyone choose to do this to themselves.

Stand up for health and sanity. Boycott emoticons!
-winn
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    No force on earth is going to convert more than a very few users of these. I've tried to set a good example, but it's even worse than I could have expected: not only do lots of people need these thing instead of words to express themselves, but many have gotten to the point where they can't even understand English that is even slightly nuanced without them. I have come to believe that there are many dgrin users who skip all text and just "read" the images and emoticons.

    Fortunately, if you use Firefox, you have a couple of options. The best one, IMO, is to prevent the things from moving. True, they still represent a laziness of expression, but at least if they don't move they aren't as distracting. The cheerleader is espeically improved by this. Here's how:
    1. Visit about:config.
    2. Search for animate. You should find: image.animation_mode
    3. Change value from default to once or never according to preference.

    A side benefit is that it also stops the avitars from moving. Ahhh...

    There is a more radical remedy. Download and enable the AdBlock extension and block the emoticons on an individual basis, or block them all with the regular expression http://www.dgrin.com/images/smilies/*-Ti.gif
    Unfortunately, this is kind of a pyrrhic victory because you won't see anything and thus won't be able to understand 1/2 of what gets said here. It puts you in the same situation as the ones who don't read the words. But it's satisfying to know that you can.

    I wish there was an image-replace Firefox extension, so that the smilies could just be replaced with appropriate words, but nobody seems to have written that once. Wait long enough, and I bet someone will.
    If not now, when?
  • windozewindoze Registered Users Posts: 2,830 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
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    please dont kill them.....


    winnjewett wrote:

    Stand up for health and sanity. Boycott emoticons!
    -winn
  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    I'm loving the once option for image_animation_mode. Your movie played once, so I got to enjoy it and then it stopped. Hooray, it's as if the record stopped skipping.
    If not now, when?
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    clearly winn and rutt, there are more important things in the world to worry about lol3.gif

    besides, without the emoticons, we wouldn't be able to see humungus dance!

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    rutt wrote:
    I'm loving the once option for image_animation_mode. Your movie played once, so I got to enjoy it and then it stopped. Hooray, it's as if the record stopped skipping.


    live a little, rutt!

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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    andy wrote:
    clearly winn and rutt, there are more important things in the world to worry about lol3.gif

    besides, without the emoticons, we wouldn't be able to see humungus dance!

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    Ahhh! Once.
    If not now, when?
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    did you know we actually have a smiley committee, headed up by patch? we meet and vote on smilies once a week. keep 'em fresh i say! a smilie a day keeps the doctor away!

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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    andy wrote:
    did you know we actually have a smiley committee, headed up by patch? we meet and vote on smilies once a week. keep 'em fresh i say! a smilie a day keeps the doctor away!

    I want to join.
    If not now, when?
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    rutt wrote:
    I want to join.

    :nono we don't put "non-smiley" people on the smiley committee lol3.gif
  • grannyrobingrannyrobin Registered Users Posts: 134 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    Yes!
    I'm ready to join, too! 15524779-Ti.gif

    andy wrote:
    did you know we actually have a smiley committee, headed up by patch? we meet and vote on smilies once a week. keep 'em fresh i say! a smilie a day keeps the doctor away!

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  • lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,207 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    Luddites!

    Might as well complain that calculators have robbed people of the ability to do math, or that that new fangled printing press has destroyed the art of calligraphy!

    Seriously, I agree that the English language, when properly used, can convey all the necessary nuances for expression. However, as we see time and again, people easily misinterpret intent, and attribute incorrect motivations and meanings to posts in forums such as these. Smilies are a nifty shorthand for giving words an emotional context.

    Perhaps people would benefit from greater skill in writing. Perhaps they could also learn to fly an airplane? Just as likely to happen.

    I, for one, still remember the 70's and 80's, even the bulk of the 90's, when a great whining was heard throughout society that modern communications had rendered obsolete the tradition of letter writing. There was great fear that we'd forget how to write.

    So I take heart that the internet has encouraged the return of written expression. And if time and progress also bring us the rolleyes1.gif, so be it.

    Beside, winjewett, you really weaken your argument when you say this :-) is preferable to this FLIPA.gif

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    Sid.
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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    Actually, Sid, I'm now very happy with the "Once" solution. I can still get the full pleasure and meaning from the emoticons, but they don't keep moving after they have made their point. Whew! I guess I'm just easily distracted. Writing on a page full of moving images like that is a little like when the cat comes to visit when I am working or reading.

    It would be nice if people actually did read and write. But I'm realistic. We can't have everything.
    If not now, when?
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    winnjewett wrote:
    As many of you know, I'm not one to hold back when something is bothering me. EMOTICONS. I hate them, especially that yellow one with the stupid smile and curved eyelids that keeps rolling back and forth. They take over my peripheral vision as I type every message. They are nauseating.

    You know, before the age of computers, people survived for hundreds of years writing letters to each other without the aide of bouncing, rolling, scratching, shrugging, crying, winking circles. If there aren't enough written words to express yourself properly, why not opt for the tried and true :-) and all of his cousins? It is bad enough when web advertisers place annoying, distracting ads on sites we have no control over, but why in God's name would anyone choose to do this to themselves.

    Stand up for health and sanity. Boycott emoticons!
    -winn
    I'm with you. The only emoticons I use are old school, when I need someone to know I'm being sarcastic ;)

    I've turned off animations completely. It's the animated emoticons that are annoying.

    And honestly, to me a love of all these cute, winking bouncing, etc. circles is akin to having a fetish for stuffed animals. Oddly juvenile in an adult. Sorry, Andy, but I had to say it. ;)
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  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    Beside, winjewett, you really weaken your argument when you say this :-) is preferable to this FLIPA.gif
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  • Shay StephensShay Stephens Registered Users Posts: 3,165 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    Ohhh, Andy just got served!!! rolleyes1.gif
    DavidTO wrote:
    And honestly, to me a love of all these cute, winking bouncing, etc. circles is akin to having a fetish for stuffed animals. Oddly juvenile in an adult. Sorry, Andy, but I had to say it. ;)
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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    andy wrote:
    :nono we don't put "non-smiley" people on the smiley committee lol3.gif

    This reminds me of something I read in the newspaper recently. Can't quite place it...
    If not now, when?
  • windozewindoze Registered Users Posts: 2,830 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    whats wrong with stuffed animals??

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    And honestly, to me a love of all these cute, winking bouncing, etc. circles is akin to having a fetish for stuffed animals. Oddly juvenile in an adult. Sorry, Andy, but I had to say it. ;)[/QUOTE]
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    windoze wrote:
    whats wrong with stuffed animals??


    Nothing.
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  • windozewindoze Registered Users Posts: 2,830 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    starwars.gifthat was a little from the dark side
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    'Holier than thou' is all that comes to mind here.
  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    I think he's just braggin :lol4 rolleyes1.gif :hide
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    Humungus wrote:
    'Holier than thou' is all that comes to mind here.

    Hmmmmm...maybe I should have used an emoticon to indicate that I'm just having fun?

    Truth is, they annoy me, but, hey, that's my problem isn't it?

    Emoticon on!

    Especially if you want to annoy me. ;)
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    DavidTO wrote:
    Hmmmmm...maybe I should have used an emoticon to indicate that I'm just having fun?

    Truth is, they annoy me, but, hey, that's my problem isn't it?

    Emoticon on!

    Especially if you want to annoy me. ;)
    Exactly the point of what i just wrote david...thumb.gif Had i put one in...maybe no-one would have answered.

    They change the tone of the msg.
  • colourboxcolourbox Registered Users Posts: 2,095 Major grins
    edited May 1, 2005
    "There is no emoticon for what I am feeling."
    - Comic Book Guy
  • Steve CaviglianoSteve Cavigliano Super Moderators Posts: 3,599 moderator
    edited May 2, 2005
    Gosh, I was wondering why some folks never post to my threads eek7.gif Stupid me, I always thought it was due to the poor quality or the lack of interesting subject matter, of my images ne_nau.gif Now I realize that it could be due to my flagrant use of emoticons :uhoh Bummer, eh? :(:


    After years of frequenting forums and chatrooms, I've really grown to like these little toons. Since you can't see the body language or hear the intonation of the people who post, these guys help me better understand where they are coming from. It's soooooooo easy to take things the wrong way on a forum/chatroom. But if the sentence that offends you is followed by a Laughing.gif-type emoticon, it lets you know that all was in jest :cool

    I'm sure it's a personal taste issue and that's cool. If some folks don't want to use them, that's fine by me. Same, with people who use them. If people aren't responding to posts because the poster used emoticons, that's pretty sad.

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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 2, 2005
    If people aren't responding to posts because the poster used emoticons, that's pretty sad.

    Steve


    I don't think that's happening.

    And now that I've turned off animations, I'm happy. I don't mind emoticons, I just hate the animations.

    And I like to poke fun at those who use them, but would never take away their right to use them (if I even had the power to do that!)
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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited May 2, 2005
    DavidTO wrote:
    I don't think that's happening.

    And now that I've turned off animations, I'm happy. I don't mind emoticons, I just hate the animations.

    And I like to poke fun at those who use them, but would never take away their right to use them (if I even had the power to do that!)

    I was going to write these exact words (well, maybe not quite, but darn close). But by the time I got here David had already done it. Technology saved the day for me. Now that they've stopped mindlessly repeating their movements, they are no longer annoying.

    Those of us who don't use emoticons really do need to try to keep our messages clear. That's fair. But I think it's also fair for us to want people to read with a little thought. Sometimes humor and irony seem so much better to me without a giant billboard to point them out.
    If not now, when?
  • Steve CaviglianoSteve Cavigliano Super Moderators Posts: 3,599 moderator
    edited May 2, 2005
    rutt wrote:
    I was going to write these exact words (well, maybe not quite, but darn close). But by the time I got here David had already done it. Technology saved the day for me. Now that they've stopped mindlessly repeating their movements, they are no longer annoying.

    Those of us who don't use emoticons really do need to try to keep our messages clear. That's fair. But I think it's also fair for us to want people to read with a little thought. Sometimes humor and irony seem so much better to me without a giant billboard to point them out.

    David and Rutt,
    Good to hear this forum has the sort of people I thought it had as members ( ) I would have inserted a "smiley" emoticon there but I respect your opinions.

    I have to agree with Rutt, on the "laugh here" mentality that emoticons can foster. Sort of like going to a hockey game and being prompted, by the scoreboard, to "CHEER". I never quite grasped tha one headscratch.gif


    Steve
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