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View Poll Results: What do you use when presenting your work to your couples
iPad 8 40.00%
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Laptop 1 5.00%
Just Prints 7 35.00%
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Old Dec-11-2011, 12:00 PM
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Light_prod, great question! There are 2 ways to go about it: either they can just get the iPad and the DVD of photos and set them up themselves, or we can come and help them out
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Old Dec-15-2011, 12:46 PM
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Matthew Saville is offline Matthew Saville
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I use dropbox to sync all my latest work at 2000 pixels to my laptops, phones, tablets, etc. That way anywhere I am, I can randomly pull out a device and showcase my work.

I firmly believe in embracing technology to wow clients and get them excited about your work, HOWEVER I'm also a traditionalist and I would never down-play the importance of a physical album. We stare at digital display screens all day long as it is; when I want to RELAX sometimes it's nice to just look at physical prints. Kinda like reading a REAL book instead of a kindle or something.

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Old Dec-15-2011, 12:50 PM
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Matthew Saville is offline Matthew Saville
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Album? Am I getting too old fashioned?

Stuff looks different when printed .... they can browse my website, blog and facebook, but when I meet them in person I want them to actually *touch* the photos / the quality of my products. I don't see the point of showing my stuff on an ipad, nor iphone (wow, that's a SMALL portfolio!). I want them to see the photos printed fairly big .... no excuses, I fly from Denver to Boston to meet my clients, the albums ARE heavy and don't get me wrong, I hate traveling with them, but I'd never leave for an interview without it/them.
Sure, I prefer albums when doing an ACTUAL consultation. However by not embracing the awesomeness of the latest technology, you're missing out on a lot of buzz-spreading in daily life. As I just explained in another reply, I use DropBox to sync up all my latest work at 2000 pixels. That way when I'm editing a job and maybe picking blog images, I am two clicks away from an export that puts images on my phone, tablet, laptop, etc. Then when I'm out and about and someone says the word "engaged" or "wedding photographer", I'm just 15 seconds away from blowing them away (hopefully!) with my latest work. Or of course there's a best-of folder, a details folder, etc. etc.

Just some food for thought!
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Old Dec-15-2011, 01:14 PM
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Agreed that I wouldn't forgo the album... imagine just giving all your images on a floppy disk 20 years ago. What would you do with that now? There's something about turning the pages that is still magic to me, but there are opportunities with new technologies. I think you should know your target market and what they really want (even if they don't know they want it yet)
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Old Dec-15-2011, 04:51 PM
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I haven't used albums in years.
Matter of fact I threw them all out in a cleanup earlier this week.
I do slide shows either on the computer or when I go to visit the clients I have been taking a portable DVD player or put the disk in their player.

I prefer slide shows simply because they allow far greater emotional viewer involvement and capture a lot more of the senses.
One of the first slide shows i did was for a friends birthday party at a restaurant. It was basicly happy snaps. No great photographic skill employed or had the opportunity to be used. I put it to some music I thought my friend would like and when I showed it to her, she was in tears inside 60 seconds. Right then and there I realized the extreme power of setting images to music and the ability to put fades and other effects in to enhance and capture the maximum emotion.

I use slide shows wherever I can these days in a variety of different ways and applications and they never fail to bring a tear to the eye, quite often even with blokes who would ( and have) admitted they would have never thought watching pictures on a screen would move them that much.

I'll guarantee you this, do a wedding presentation and get a tear in the eye of anyone thinking of hiring you and you have got the deal in the bag, no question. Put together a slide show to be screened AT the wedding and you will walk out of there with extra bookings.


A printed wedding album might get oohs and ahh's but I have NEVER seen an album move anyone enough to bring a tear to anyone's eye yet who was not connected with the subjects.
With a slide show, you can do it every singe time and in my repeated experience, tears mean bookings. It's exactly the same as a guy meeting a girl he's interested in dating. make her laugh, really laugh and she will go out with you, guaranteed.
It's not the fact they laugh or cry, it's the fact you have got them to that state of emotional involvement where they are relaxed or motivated enough.

Everyone knows what a printed image looks and feels like. Honestly, how does one shooters Pics feel different to the touch than anyone elses? I think the comments about albums are more a product of the PHOTOGRAPHERS feeling and prefrances than the potential clients and an assumption that what we think as shooters is what the clients think as well.
I learned the fallacy and mistake of that line of thinking a long time ago.

That said, if people believe they HAVE to show albums to do a good presentation because that's what people want to see, then YOU probably need to have albums in order to be confident in what you are doing and not as I believe, giving off those invisible and unspoken little brainwaves that the clients will pick up on and will kill your sale before it starts.

People forget the rule of sales is people buy the person, the product and the price, in that order.

If your crutch is your albums and you don't have them, then you are going to be lacking confidence and most people will give off the brainwaves or body language or whatever it is to the client and as a person you will likely not click with them as you might have had you had your album crutch there to support you.

Personally I have spent a lot of time learning sales and I can sell well, be the support tool be an album, a slide show or the countless times I have booked weddings now with showing them no more than the pictures on the wall or sometimes, not even that!

With a slide show, I feel very confident that I can get the booking and do it without having to work hard to get the sale. The product will take care of itself, I know what they want to sell myself and as I have already qualified them on price and budget before i even get in front of them, getting the sale is about as odds on as it's ever going to be.

I also don't show prints for album planning these days, haven't done that in years either so the first time they get to touch or hold an album is after they have bought and paid for their own.
For this reason as well, physical albums mean little to me and more importantly, they have proven to be of little consequence to my clients seeing sample albums as well.
Old Jan-04-2012, 11:35 AM
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I use dropbox to sync all my latest work at 2000 pixels to my laptops, phones, tablets, etc. That way anywhere I am, I can randomly pull out a device and showcase my work.

I firmly believe in embracing technology to wow clients and get them excited about your work, HOWEVER I'm also a traditionalist and I would never down-play the importance of a physical album. We stare at digital display screens all day long as it is; when I want to RELAX sometimes it's nice to just look at physical prints. Kinda like reading a REAL book instead of a kindle or something.

=Matt=
So I ended up getting the iPad and been syncing my photos using Zen's app (sorry smugmug!) to sync my photos on my iPad.. and it's been good so far... clients love it! :)

I never thought that I would be able to sync up my ipad with my machine using dropbox! I'm gonna have to try this!!
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Old Jan-04-2012, 11:26 PM
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Matthew Saville is offline Matthew Saville
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So I ended up getting the iPad and been syncing my photos using Zen's app (sorry smugmug!) to sync my photos on my iPad.. and it's been good so far... clients love it! :)

I never thought that I would be able to sync up my ipad with my machine using dropbox! I'm gonna have to try this!!
With the way Lightroom works these days, I suppose it's just the same whether you want to quickly dump a few favorites to a SmugMug gallery, or a DropBox folder...

The key, really, is in the systematic approach itself. Either create an "Inbox" folder in DropBox, or create an "Inbox" gallery on Smugmug. Whatever it is, it's gotta be the same each time so that you can do it within 2-3 clicks during your normal workflow. Then, once a month, you just clean out / sort the folder, delete the mediocre stuff and categorize the best stuff. I believe you can arrange SmugMug galleries like this from within Lightroom? Or, for DropBox, I just use Bridge to sort images. Or you can just create a LR Catalog that contains all your "best of" folders, and just keep syncing the folder to make sure stuff is in the right spot.

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