A very good, very long read... Tells a good story.
One guy's horror story of dealing with a camera store in NY.

http://thomashawk.com/2005/11/pricer...nd-switch.html


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Originally Posted by Seymore A very good, very long read... Tells a good story. One guy's horror story of dealing with a camera store in NY. http://thomashawk.com/2005/11/pricer...nd-switch.html .

Seymore, you're about the fifth guy to post this.. I moved your post from the Hall of Wisdom (read the forum sticky there) to the Cameras forum here.

Originally Posted by Andy Seymore, you're about the fifth guy to post this.. I moved your post from the Hall of Wisdom (read the forum sticky there) to the Cameras forum here.

Thanks Andy. I didn't know. I did search, but was unable to find anything on based on the name of the company in question. So, I thought I was safe.

Thanks again man. Like your red bennie!!! who's your stylist?

Originally Posted by JamesJWeg If I order online I don't want to have my order held to wait on me having to call in to hear a sales pitch.

James

For the record, my experience with Adorama is different. It is true that Adorama has got into the habit of sending an e-mail that is somewhat ambiguous, and may make you believe that there is a problem with the order. The purpose is to incite you to call and try to sell you a filter set. I personally feel that the practice is causing harm to their reputation, for * good * reasons. I disagree with it, but to be fair to Adorama the following points have to be made based on mine and other's experience:

- they don't insist if you just say "no", and your order will not be canceled because you don't want the filters.

- the filters are sold at a competitive price

these 2 points are very important because they make a world of difference between Adorama and other merchants which use "bait and switch" tactics, attracting you with good prices - in theory - but refusing to make the sale if you don't accept to buy way overpriced accessories at the same time.

- final point: Adorama does * not * delay an order because you don't answer to the e-mail. It will ship whether you call them or not (again, based on mine and others' experience with them). But this is where this practice backfires: the letter is ambiguous and let you believe that a call is needed to solve it. The order is delayed. You call and they ask you if you want to buy filters. How does it look ? But what if there is in fact a * real * problem with the order - say the item is backordered but the web site did not reflect that at the time of ordering - it still looks like the delay is only because Adorama wanted to give you the sales pitch about the filters. They've got a lot of bad publicity from this several times, and if anybody from Adorama reads this, then I hope they'll follow my advice: stop this practice once and for all.

A part from this, they're a great store.

Thierry

Is www.butterflyphoto.com a reliable source?? my brother is looking to buy the Minolta Z6. and he is looking for the cheapest one. thanks guys

Check out this site. ButterFly Photo Customer Ratings, Reviews and Prices at ResellerRatings

I wouldn't buy from them based on this info, but others will. The cheapest promised price is not always the cheapest price.

Sam

I have been greatly stung and now longer will buy from anyone online or out of a magazine ad with out first checking with RESELLERSRATINGS.com............they can be a life saver....at the same time some companies that get bad ratings will just change their domain name and start over.....if I don;t find you on Reseller Ratings..then I check the WHo IS listing for domain names to see how old it is and if it looks shady.....store in NY....doamain owner in Russia....a bit of a exaggeration but I think every understands......

Originally Posted by TOF guy --chop-- - final point: Adorama does * not * delay an order because you don't answer to the e-mail. It will ship whether you call them or not (again, based on mine and others' experience with them).--chop--

Nope, they DID hold my order 2 days waiting on my call back, the sales guy who answered admitted this. I first bought film from them over 10 years ago, many rolls at a time, I liked them then, but this was really a sour apple.

James.

Just a horrible reminder of what can happen on EBAY guys. The original person had good feedback (up to page 5) but unfortunately their account was hi-jacked...quite possibly from replying to an email sent to them that looked official from Ebay.

Dont reply to an email with your personal details guys.

This scammer has made his money fast & is now on holidays.



Gus

Originally Posted by Humungus Just a horrible reminder of what can happen on EBAY guys. The original person had good feedback (up to page 5) but unfortunately their account was hi-jacked...quite possibly from replying to an email sent to them that looked official from Ebay. Dont reply to an email with your personal details guys. This scammer has made his money fast & is now on holidays. Gus

Same product pic in multiple auctions. Worse, they were running more or less concurrently. Huge tip-off.

I'm considering buying this camera. Canon EOS D10. This is my question. How many shutter activations appx has this camera had? Is there a way of knowing trough the camera settings?

Originally Posted by Digital407 I'm considering buying this camera. Canon EOS D10. This is my question. How many shutter activations appx has this camera had? Is there a way of knowing trough the camera settings?

Shoot pic look at file number....if anything like my KM even if I changed my file system it still shows the number of photos taken.
have them send a pic of the daily newpaper showing date, including all exif data....

Jus cause you delete pic from card in camera doesn't change the file number....at least on KM's.......

Doesn't the number roll over at some point?

Originally Posted by wxwax Doesn't the number roll over at some point?

Yes, but it's like buying a used car. If the odometer says 30k miles, but the brakepedal is worn through to the metal, you know that it's had more than 30k miles, and that the odometer has rolled over.

Originally Posted by wxwax Doesn't the number roll over at some point?

YES...it is at some point near 99,999 or 999,999...i am not real sure ... it may even be more.

Originally Posted by DavidTO Yes, but it's like buying a used car. If the odometer says 30k miles, but the brakepedal is worn through to the metal, you know that it's had more than 30k miles, and that the odometer has rolled over.

OK, this is getting really complicated. The 10D has a brake pedal?

Originally Posted by wxwax OK, this is getting really complicated. The 10D has a brake pedal?

Yes, stoopid. You didn't know that!!!??
It's right there next to the cigarette lighter!
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Bought my 10D at B & H. The order shipped the same day. (The 10D was on special at $799.95 for the body). These guys are a class act.

I just checked my file number on the camera per instructions from an earlier thread. It read 3700 and change. I know I have not shot more than 500 or so shots so I wonder what happened? I'm certain their internet site did not say it was a demo or a refurb. The camera looked brand spanking new when I took it out of the box. Is it possible that the factory shoots off a few thousand shots to make sure the shutter is functioning properly?

Sid-

let's see; you wrote this two years ago?

whatta good post!

I hope everyone who looks to go cheap on a camera checks it out-

I'll look around at all the low prices and always end up going to b&h (I'm sure there are others just as good--it's just my preference)- have not had the slightest problem with them--

nice job-

george

Thanks George. Your post made me go back and reread it, clean up the weird artifacts that replace some punctuation when Baldy upgrades his vBulletin.