Originally Posted by Nikolai Can you please be more specific? "Get image info", apart from being restricted in trial, downloads image information into your locally stored database. You can then uses MS Access (or any other ODBC/OLE DB/ADO compatible tool) to run different reports against this information. Please check the FAQ, I wrote a few pages on how to build such reports...

ah ok i don't need reports just yet so i'll leave that...

Originally Posted by Nikolai I suspect either your gallery was set up in a way that prevents S*E from getting the said images, or you might have misconfigured your account info in S*E.

well, i just tried to create a new gallery and that failed, a poop-up told me to check the logs but all it said was this:

7/04/2007 2:50:14 AM:   Started Creating StarExplorerTest in Other
7/04/2007 2:50:14 AM:     Started Creating album: StarExplorerTest
7/04/2007 2:50:23 AM:       RPC-XML:  (-1)
7/04/2007 2:50:23 AM:     Finished Creating album: StarExplorerTest (0:00:09)
7/04/2007 2:50:23 AM:     Trying to re-login
7/04/2007 2:50:23 AM:     Started Creating album: StarExplorerTest
7/04/2007 2:50:33 AM:       RPC-XML:  (-1)
7/04/2007 2:50:33 AM:     Finished Creating album: StarExplorerTest (0:00:09)
7/04/2007 2:50:43 AM:   Finished Creating StarExplorerTest in Other (0:00:28)

so then i tried uploading a few images to an existing gallery and that werked just dandy, so my settings must be correct if it can at least do that, right?

Originally Posted by ashsimmonds in the full version when you download your files does it also include the keywords?

Full version or trial, if you downlaod the file you get the following:

1) original: whatever was uplaoded. AFAIK, Smugmug does not change a single bit of the original file (at least if it's big enough). S*E also knows better than to strip/modify any EXIF/IPTC information during the uplaod.

Note: some files can be converted by S*E prior to download (e.g. bmp), but jpegs surely go "as is", so whatever EXIF info you put into them should stay.

2) non-original: according to what I know all the non-original files are stripped from EXIF info at smugmug when they are created (due to the space requirements). S*E has nothing to do with it, it's simply how SM operates.

Originally Posted by ashsimmonds all i want to do is duplicate some galleries so i can give full-size versions to certain people using hidden/passwerded galleries. i tried AlbumFetcher to download so i can re-upload but it appears to only embed the first 50 characters or so of the keywords into IPTC. the gallery duplicator thingy doesn't even do keywords so i don't see the point when i can just upload my pics twice.

I'm not sure I understand completely... You have private/protected gallery and you want to give some people an access to it? SM offers special sharegroups for that. Please use SM help for more info on this.

If it's something else - please elaborate...

HTH

Originally Posted by ashsimmonds well, i just tried to create a new gallery and that failed, a pop-up told me to check the logs but all it said was this: ....skipped.... so then i tried uploading a few images to an existing gallery and that werked just dandy, so my settings must be correct if it can at least do that, right?

Looks like your accounts settings in S*E are misconfigured. Please make sure your subscription level is set to what you have with SM, at least not as guest.

Let me know.

Originally Posted by Nikolai Full version or trial, if you downlaod the file you get the following:....

ok then, see what happens is i upload a bunch of pics to a gallery, then i spend a bunch of time keywording the crap out of them.

after that, i like to supply the hi-res versions to the people who provided the opportunity for the shots, which in my case is owners of Ferraris and Lamborghinis and such or magazines/websites who wish to publish my material.

now, because smugmug doesn't have the ability to supply a "special user" who can view originals on a gallery which only shows the "large" size, i have to make duplicate galleries with originals enabled and passwerd/hide that gallery and give the details to the people who i want to allow to see it.

after all the werk i do keywording the photos i'd like to just have the duplicated gallery maintain those keywords, but so far nothing seems to do what i want. :(

Sharegroups seem to be just another way to categorise your albums, not really useful for me, i have my own website that i can do that on.

Originally Posted by Nikolai Looks like your accounts settings in S*E are misconfigured. Please make sure your subscription level is set to what you have with SM, at least not as guest. Let me know.

i shut the prog down and reopened and now the downloading is werking fine, thanks.

Originally Posted by ashsimmonds ok then, see what happens is i upload a bunch of pics to a gallery, then i spend a bunch of time keywording the crap out of them. after that, i like to supply the hi-res versions to the people who provided the opportunity for the shots, which in my case is owners of Ferraris and Lamborghinis and such or magazines/websites who wish to publish my material. now, because smugmug doesn't have the ability to supply a "special user" who can view originals on a gallery which only shows the "large" size, i have to make duplicate galleries with originals enabled and passwerd/hide that gallery and give the details to the people who i want to allow to see it. after all the werk i do keywording the photos i'd like to just have the duplicated gallery maintain those keywords, but so far nothing seems to do what i want. :( Sharegroups seem to be just another way to categorise your albums, not really useful for me, i have my own website that i can do that on.

I think you'llbe a much better off if your keyword your files prior to your uplaoding them. I personally keyword the RAW files, this way my keywords are transparently migrated to any JPEG aI decide to make out of them, and same goes about SM - they are already there.

And I also think you misundertstood the SM sharegroups, since they are exactly what you're looking for, not an extra categorization tool.

HTH

Originally Posted by ashsimmonds i shut the prog down and reopened and now the downloading is werking fine, thanks.

Cool, thanks for letting me know!

Originally Posted by Nikolai I think you'llbe a much better off if your keyword your files prior to your uplaoding them. I personally keyword the RAW files, this way my keywords are transparently migrated to any JPEG aI decide to make out of them, and same goes about SM - they are already there.

what tools do you use to do this? i find the SM keyworderator thing pretty decent, but yeah doing it local would be better if it's easy.

Originally Posted by Nikolai And I also think you misundertstood the SM sharegroups, since they are exactly what you're looking for, not an extra categorization tool.

i'll look into them again but i don't see how they provide access to originals for existing galleries ("exactly what i'm looking for"). all i can see that they do is let me categorise my albums.

Originally Posted by ashsimmonds what tools do you use to do this? i find the SM keyworderator thing pretty decent, but yeah doing it local would be better if it's easy.

Adobe Bridge (CS3, but CS2 would work, too)

Originally Posted by ashsimmonds i'll look into them again but i don't see how they provide access to originals for existing galleries ("exactly what i'm looking for"). all i can see that they do is let me categorise my albums.

If you make an album private/protected it means no one can get to its content, period - except via sharegoups. All you have to do is to enable originals... and let the people you want to have the access the gorup's special URL

Originally Posted by Nikolai If you make an album private/protected it means no one can get to its content, period - except via sharegoups.

I'm not sure you mean what this says. A private gallery is just not listed on your home page so people will not discover it by browsing. But, anyone that you give the URL to (via email or manually link in a blog or other ways) can see the gallery. It doesn't actually have any access control - it's just unlisted on your home page.

Originally Posted by jfriend I'm not sure you mean what this says. A private gallery is just not listed on your home page so people will not discover it by browsing. But, anyone that you give the URL to (via email or manually link in a blog or other ways) can see the gallery. It doesn't actually have any access control - it's just unlisted on your home page.

I double checked.. I guess you're right (I should've known better, you're always right:-).
Yes, privacy only means they are (very) hard to discover by accident.
Sharegroups simply allow you to group such galleries into some collections/sets.
Sorry, I was wrong...
Anyway, it's more like SM usage issue, I can't see how S*E (or any other 3d party tool) can help with it, even though I'd be very glad to...

The new version uses the new protection/licensing system (VSPS) instead of the old one (ICE). The old system had a major disadvantage under Vista, since it required S*E to run in Administrator mode, at least several times.
The new system is lighter, faster and is Vista-compatible. Activation process also became much simpler: all you need to do is copy the license file to the Star*Explorer folder (or, for geeks and admins, to its application data folder).

If you already hold the full "old style" license and it works, there is no need to request a new one, S*E can work with either system.

Phew, that took me a while...

I got his tip from one of my users today. Looks like S*E and LR can go hand-in-hand!

Says Mike:

Star*Explorer can be easily integrated into Adobe Lightroom. Just put a shortcut to starexplorer.exe into the C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Applicatio<WBR>n Data\Adobe\Lightroom\Export Actions folder. Now, when in Lightroom, highlight the photos you want to send to Smugmug and click Export. Leave the output folder unchecked; set the JPEG image quality; set the output size if you want it to be less than full; set the color space to sRGB; and in the Post-processing box at the bottom of the dialog, pick StarExplorer. In a few seconds Star*Explorer will start up and the file will be listed and ready to go. Mike Sullivan (user #84)

Thank you, Mike!

I am using StarExplorer 168 as a pro user (computermiracles.smugmug.com), having problems with
SMTP email that requires authentication.

When I set SE to use my home ISP for SMTP email, (smtp.west.cox.net), it
works. But I believe that it works because my ip address matches the ISP provider and not my userid authentication.
I am trying to set my laptop to use a "portable" SMTP provider, since my
home provider (cox.net) will not work when I am on the road.

The 3 different SMTP providers I have tried is:

fastmail.net (mail.messagingengine.com)
yahoo.com (smtp.mail.yahoo.com)
gmail.com (smtp.gmail.com)

The 3 "portable" SMTP providers all fail in SE with the error message:

could not send test email
socket error # 10060
connection timed out

The 3 portable SMTP providers all work fine for me in Thunderbird email
client program.
I looked in the SE log, but there are no error messages.
Any suggestions on how to debug this?

thanks,

Originally Posted by RickKruer I am using StarExplorer 168 as a pro user (computermiracles.smugmug.com), having problems with SMTP email that requires authentication. ....

Guys, I asked Rick to post his question here hoping there is somebody more fluent in network/email protocols than I am...

Originally Posted by Nikolai I got his tip from one of my users today. Looks like S*E and LR can go hand-in-hand! Says Mike: Thank you, Mike!

Lightroom tip works like a charm, though I can find no place to 'Leave the output folder unchecked"...there is a subfolder checkbox there, but no matter what I do, LR wants to export a photo to a folder...grr...I have already done that, don't need another copy of the image...

Originally Posted by cmason Lightroom tip works like a charm, though I can find no place to 'Leave the output folder unchecked"...there is a subfolder checkbox there, but no matter what I do, LR wants to export a photo to a folder...grr...I have already done that, don't need another copy of the image...

Hmm.. Maybe just leave it empty? I don't use LR ...

Originally Posted by RickKruer I am using StarExplorer 168 as a pro user (computermiracles.smugmug.com), having problems with SMTP email that requires authentication. When I set SE to use my home ISP for SMTP email, (smtp.west.cox.net), it works. But I believe that it works because my ip address matches the ISP provider and not my userid authentication. I am trying to set my laptop to use a "portable" SMTP provider, since my home provider (cox.net) will not work when I am on the road. The 3 different SMTP providers I have tried is: fastmail.net (mail.messagingengine.com) yahoo.com (smtp.mail.yahoo.com) gmail.com (smtp.gmail.com) The 3 "portable" SMTP providers all fail in SE with the error message: could not send test email socket error # 10060 connection timed out The 3 portable SMTP providers all work fine for me in Thunderbird email client program. I looked in the SE log, but there are no error messages. Any suggestions on how to debug this? thanks,

You might check out this article that explains how to run a manual session that contacts the mail server directly so you can see exactly what it is saying at each step and where it might be failing.

Ever had a trouble figuring out where on smugmug did you upload that particular picture?
I mean, search by keywords is sure nice, but what if the only piece of info you can remember
is the image file name? Or a part of the album name?
Well, your troubles are over.
New full text search (Ctrl+F, also a button on the primary toolbar) allows to quickly scan
all pertinent image data and locate albums or even individual images that match you criteria.
And even if you don't remember exact words: no worries, *-type wildcards are supported!



One particularly peculiar task always bothered me:
I posted an image a while agoe, I know its numeric ID from the image properties,
but for the life of me I can't remember what albums I uploaded it to.

Now all you have to do is to check the box in the rigth top corenr -
and S*E will show you where this image is located, most likely both online and locally.

Of course you can sort, save or copy the results, open SM page with the album/image in question,
reveal the file in Windows Explorer or open it in your favorite app (PS CS3?;-).



And, btw, in case you're wondering about the speed...
The longest I had to wait was a few seconds (very cumbesrome
heavily wildcarded search pattern against all the fields across
the whole account).
Anything simpler than that is almost instant!

Feature is only available for Trial/Power/Pro S*E editions.
S*E has to be used for the upload.
Image Info download may need to be performed prior to feature usage to ensure accurate results.

Weee, sounds fun and useful! Thanks Nik!
Just one question, because due to your introduction of 2 upload threads the bandwith throttle didn't work for me anymore that's why I've gone back to version 159.
Is the bandwith throttle back already? Maybe I missed that release.

Sebastian