Cropping Panoramic photos for print

Dogdots · March 9, 2009

I have some panoramic photos on my site that I would like to print out using bayphoto. When I go to order one it doesn't give me the whole photo.

Not a clue what I'm doing wrong. When I edited my photo I just cropped off the edges without any dimensions set. Was that wrong?

I'm hoping someone could give me a step by step process on how to be able to print out my full pano.

Thank-you

Andy · March 9, 2009

Links to the photo(s) will help, as will the size you wish to print

Candid Arts · March 9, 2009

Is there anyways to disable all cropping options EXCEPT "no crop"?

Dogdots · March 9, 2009

It would help if I had linked you to the photo

Sorry about that.

Here is one of the photos I'd like to print - http://www.dogdotsphotography.com/gallery/6185629_HnHzz#390208999_csPSK

I'd like to print it in a 12x30 size. But....what happens if I would like to print another one in a different size? Do my photos on the site need to be set to a certain size or do I just need to put down somewhere on the site that photos are set up for a 12x30 pano print size?

Is there a "no crop" option? How does that work with pano's?

Candid Arts · March 9, 2009

Dogdots wrote:

Is there a "no crop" option? How does that work with pano's?

There is a "no crop" option. Add the photo into your shopping cart. Then there will be a "no crop" or "none" option. Select it and see what it does to your photo.

Dogdots · March 9, 2009

Candid Arts wrote:

There is a no crop option. Add the photo into your shopping cart. Then there will be a no crop or "none" option. Select it and see what it does to your photo.

I just tried it and this is what happened https://secure.smugmug.com/cart/?back2shop=http://www.dogdotsphotography.com/gallery/6185629_HnHzz

So I could order this and the photo would be printed as a 12x30, but I would need to cut off the white edges correct?

Sam · March 9, 2009

Dogdots wrote:

I have some panoramic photos on my site that I would like to print out using bayphoto. When I go to order one it doesn't give me the whole photo.

Not a clue what I'm doing wrong. When I edited my photo I just cropped off the edges without any dimensions set. Was that wrong?

I'm hoping someone could give me a step by step process on how to be able to print out my full pano.

Thank-you

This is simple. It's all about aspect ratio. You can not crop an image willy nilly, and some how expect it to fit all sizes. At least not with the physics of this universe.

I looked at the image you are tying to print, but I couldn't copy it or access the exif data so I have no idea of the image size or aspect ratio.

If you send me or give me access to the image I can let you know what your options are.

Or just open in Photoshop, set your crop tool to 12X30, leave the resolution blank, and wala you got it.

Sam

Candid Arts · March 9, 2009

Dogdots wrote:

I just tried it and this is what happened https://secure.smugmug.com/cart/?back2shop=http://www.dogdotsphotography.com/gallery/6185629_HnHzz

So I could order this and the photo would be printed as a 12x30, but I would need to cut off the white edges correct?

Link takes me to an empty gallery. But by your description, yes. It'll basically fit the entire pano on a 12x30 piece of paper, then you just trim down the white borders.

Dogdots · March 9, 2009

Sorry about the link not showing up. It does sound right then...just cut off the top and bottom.

I also opened up my site for info on the photos so you can click on them and see it. The photo I have on my site of the geese flying over frozen water actually comes out perfect at a 12x30 crop when I try to order it. Not a clue as to why that happens.

Let me know what you find and give me any help I may need as I know I need help

Candid Arts · March 9, 2009

Dogdots wrote:

Sorry about the link not showing up. It does sound right then...just cut off the top and bottom.

I also opened up my site for info on the photos so you can click on them and see it. The photo I have on my site of the geese flying over frozen water actually comes out perfect at a 12x30 crop when I try to order it. Not a clue as to why that happens.

Let me know what you find and give me any help I may need as I know I need help

It happens because that happened to be the exact size of the image. How you accidentally pulled that off I have no idea, but good job.

Dogdots · March 9, 2009

Candid Arts wrote:

It happens because that happened to be the exact size of the image. How you accidentally pulled that off I have no idea, but good job.

Wonder how I did that

Candid Arts · March 9, 2009

So Andy (or another smugmug guru guy/gal) is there anyways to disable all cropping options EXCEPT "no crop" on just the pano section?

Sam · March 9, 2009

Dogdots wrote:

Wonder how I did that

Use the crop tool in Photoshop. Leave the resolution box blank, and enter in your desired dimentions. IE: 12X30.

I do not have access to your image so I don't know what size it is, (aspect ratio) or how many pixels you have to work with.

Sam

Dogdots · March 10, 2009

Sam wrote:

Use the crop tool in Photoshop. Leave the resolution box blank, and enter in your desired dimentions. IE: 12X30.

I do not have access to your image so I don't know what size it is, (aspect ratio) or how many pixels you have to work with.

Sam

Sorry Sam I had it open for you, but then changed it back. I wrote it down to for you, but now I can't find my notes. I'll open it up again for you to see. It's ND Panoramic's.

Sam · March 10, 2009

Dogdots wrote:

Sorry Sam I had it open for you, but then changed it back. I wrote it down to for you, but now I can't find my notes. I'll open it up again for you to see. It's ND Panoramic's.

OK Mary,

Lets see if this helps. I see that you tend to crop your pano landscapes using the "willy / nilly" method.

While it's not wrong to to crop on a random basis, you must realize that this will entail complete custom printing matting, and framing.

My suggestion would be to establish your available choices for off the shelf printing, matting, and framing sizes, and try to crop your images to fit these dimensions. In most instances this can be done without sacrificing your image integrity or impact.

The next issue is the total number of pixels, and acceptable print sizes.

As an example your sepia image is a stitched image, and although in order to cop it to the 12X30 size you will loose about 20% off the width you still will end up with about 295 ppi which is good. Print away.

Now the Spring Migration is only one shot, and when cropped to the 12X30 size you will only have about 134 ppi, not good. You will need to ether uprez, or find out from your printer if they can uprez this image to the size you want. The other choice is to print at a smaller size.

Does any of this help?

Sam

Dogdots · March 10, 2009

Sam wrote:

OK Mary,

Lets see if this helps. I see that you tend to crop your pano landscapes using the "willy / nilly" method.

While it's not wrong to to crop on a random basis, you must realize that this will entail complete custom printing matting, and framing.

My suggestion would be to establish your available choices for off the shelf printing, matting, and framing sizes, and try to crop your images to fit these dimensions. In most instances this can be done without sacrificing your image integrity or impact.

The next issue is the total number of pixels, and acceptable print sizes.

As an example your sepia image is a stitched image, and although in order to cop it to the 12X30 size you will loose about 20% off the width you still will end up with about 295 ppi which is good. Print away.

Now the Spring Migration is only one shot, and when cropped to the 12X30 size you will only have about 134 ppi, not good. You will need to ether uprez, or find out from your printer if they can uprez this image to the size you want. The other choice is to print at a smaller size.

Does any of this help?

Sam

Yes this helps a bunch. Only now I have questions that I hope you can take time to answer for me.

1. Could you tell me how to crop my pano's so they can be printed correctly? I know you had said to crop them to the size I would want to print and then leave the resolution empty -- correct?

2. How does one crop a photo leaving it open to be printed in a pano at different sizes? I don't want to Nilly/Willy it anymore

I want to learn the best and proper way in which to do it.

3. How do I correct my sepia photo so I don't lose in width? Just redo it in the measurements I would like printed?

The pano of the geese is just a small one I have. I do have a stitching that can be done with 16 photos. It actually took that many photos to get the show grouping of geese. Spring migration brings millions of these birds to this area.

I use my jpegs for my panos. I'd like to use my Raw's, but how do you open your Raw's in Photomerge? I hear some who edit one photo at a time and then merge them. Do you do it that way?

Thank you Sam for your help

Cropping Panoramic photos for print

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