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Organizing photos from two photographers

Graham CrackerGraham Cracker Registered Users Posts: 242 Major grins
edited June 30, 2010 in Weddings
I shot my first wedding and have all my pictures and my assistants in LR is there a way to organize chronologically from the two cameras? can I do it by the time stamp in the metadata? Can you manually change the organization of them for the slide show? Thanks Patrick
PDG
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    PrettyKittyPrettyKitty Registered Users Posts: 57 Big grins
    edited June 28, 2010
    I shot my first wedding and have all my pictures and my assistants in LR is there a way to organize chronologically from the two cameras? can I do it by the time stamp in the metadata? Can you manually change the organization of them for the slide show? Thanks Patrick

    If you're in the grid mode, (and you have all the pictures in one folder)there's a selection in the bottom - to organize by "capture time" (or something like that) vs. a few other options. Hopefully both the cameras were synchronized as far as time goes! I had some people hand me pictures from events, and their cameras weren't properly set - so that was a pain to manually sort through!
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    urbanariesurbanaries Registered Users Posts: 2,690 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2010
    Worst part of being a wedding photographer...hands down!
    I shot my first wedding and have all my pictures and my assistants in LR is there a way to organize chronologically from the two cameras? can I do it by the time stamp in the metadata? Can you manually change the organization of them for the slide show? Thanks Patrick

    This is the most painful part of the processing task for me personally. I usually shoot with two cameras so even when I don't have a 3rd (or 4th) camera it is always a PITA.

    My current workflow:
    -in Library mode, grid view, filter by metadata and then camera serial number. I generally rate photos first this way, then I am only dealing with getting my selected shots in the proper order.
    -use Collections to categorize (getting ready, ceremony etc) and order the shots (grid view, sort by user order) once I have the set narrowed down.

    I wish there was a way to do it better, but I have tried to manually sync camera times with no luck. Even if we could, human intervention is (in my experience) still required to put shots in proper "storytelling" order if there are simultaneous shooters.
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    Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2010
    PK has it pretty well nailed. The best process I was able to come up with is to have the EOS Utilty installed on a laptop and then synchronize each camera that is going to be used with the clock on the laptop. This gets the clocks in each camera set close (enough?) to each other.

    Then, in post, you can, indeed, sort the entire set (from all the cameras) by the capture time that is written to the image EXIF data.

    Another trick I used to help with keeping total image count from the client is to rename the image files using the two-digit hour, minutes, and seconds of the capture time (a six digit series) followed by a custom text identifying the client. You can also predicate all that with yymmdd.

    For the slide show, yes you can re-order them to fit your needs. Just click and drag.
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    Graham CrackerGraham Cracker Registered Users Posts: 242 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2010
    If you're in the grid mode, (and you have all the pictures in one folder)there's a selection in the bottom - to organize by "capture time" (or something like that) vs. a few other options. Hopefully both the cameras were synchronized as far as time goes! I had some people hand me pictures from events, and their cameras weren't properly set - so that was a pain to manually sort through!

    I did see this but unfortunately my partner just got his new camera and didn't set the time correctly. Anyway to manually click and drag around the pictures? Thanks PAtrick
    PDG
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    liflanderliflander Registered Users Posts: 339 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2010
    Re: Organizing photos from two photographers
    You can also batch edit the exif data to change all of the time stamps on one of the camera's shots to bring all the shots into sync, then just sort by date modified.
    There is freeware out there that will do this batch exif editing (on PC, not sure about Mac). Just search shareware.com.
    Mark

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    Graham CrackerGraham Cracker Registered Users Posts: 242 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2010
    PK has it pretty well nailed. The best process I was able to come up with is to have the EOS Utilty installed on a laptop and then synchronize each camera that is going to be used with the clock on the laptop. This gets the clocks in each camera set close (enough?) to each other.

    Then, in post, you can, indeed, sort the entire set (from all the cameras) by the capture time that is written to the image EXIF data.

    Another trick I used to help with keeping total image count from the client is to rename the image files using the two-digit hour, minutes, and seconds of the capture time (a six digit series) followed by a custom text identifying the client. You can also predicate all that with yymmdd.

    For the slide show, yes you can re-order them to fit your needs. Just click and drag.

    Where in slide show can you click and drag? and can you burn a slide show to DVD? Thanks for the help to both of you. Good lesson learned.
    PDG
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    heatherfeatherheatherfeather Registered Users Posts: 2,738 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2010
    Actually LR can do a batch shift of the time pretty simply.

    Here is what you do:

    Find a shot that is a defining moment that both cameras caught. A high five or something.
    In library grid mode in the right panel all the way at the bottom will show the capture time. On a piece of paper, write down the time that the defining moment happened for the main camera.
    Then select all the photos from the second shooter's camera, but highlight the photo with the "defining moment". Click the button to the right of the capture time.
    Choose "adjust to a specified time and date" and then enter the time you wrote down from the main camera's "defining moment" photo. It will shift all of the selected photos in the second shooters by that much time, and not change them all to the same exact time. (I think the wording is misleading in LR, so that is why nobody knows this.) I only found it after a lot of head scratching and and then finally tried it on something small.

    Good luck!
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    Graham CrackerGraham Cracker Registered Users Posts: 242 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2010
    Actually LR can do a batch shift of the time pretty simply.

    Here is what you do:

    Find a shot that is a defining moment that both cameras caught. A high five or something.
    In library grid mode in the right panel all the way at the bottom will show the capture time. On a piece of paper, write down the time that the defining moment happened for the main camera.
    Then select all the photos from the second shooter's camera, but highlight the photo with the "defining moment". Click the button to the right of the capture time.
    Choose "adjust to a specified time and date" and then enter the time you wrote down from the main camera's "defining moment" photo. It will shift all of the selected photos in the second shooters by that much time, and not change them all to the same exact time. (I think the wording is misleading in LR, so that is why nobody knows this.) I only found it after a lot of head scratching and and then finally tried it on something small.

    Good luck!
    Fantastic. Thank you so much for the help. I will try tonight.
    PDG
    Canon 1DM3, 20D & 40D, Canon f/2.8 70-200mm IS, Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8
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    Graham CrackerGraham Cracker Registered Users Posts: 242 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2010
    Fantastic. Thank you so much for the help. I will try tonight.
    It worked once I selected the Default view of the metadata. Perfect, thanks so much. Patrick clap.gif
    PDG
    Canon 1DM3, 20D & 40D, Canon f/2.8 70-200mm IS, Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8
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    marikrismarikris Registered Users Posts: 930 Major grins
    edited June 29, 2010
    Awesome! I learned something new too ^_^
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    FedererPhotoFedererPhoto Registered Users Posts: 312 Major grins
    edited June 30, 2010
    Yay.

    Yeah, remembering to set the cameras to the same time (to the second) before a shoot is important... makes life easier afterwards (even if it can be fixed, its' a pain -- especially as you start to up the number of cameras)
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