Colour Temp, match colours, skin

Bend The LightBend The Light Bend The LightPosts: 1,887Registered Users Major grins
edited April 15, 2012 in Finishing School
Hi all,

I did a shoot in my little studio last night. The model is not actually a model, and it wasn't a paid shoot, just a learning shoot. :)

My question:

I have issues with making consistent colours, temperature, etc across a group of images. I should have set custom WB in the studio to help, but i didn't (:huh).

So how would I get these two images looking consistent using CS5? make the first match the second, basically, as i am happy with the second. I just don't know the best tool to use, or if it is possible to do effectively. I am colour blind, which doesn't help...I can match colours to some extent, but would probably miss a colour cast or something if it wasn't so obvious.

Next time I WILL remember Custom WB!!

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Hannah v2 colour temp by http://bendthelight.me.uk, on Flickr

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Hannah v1 by http://bendthelight.me.uk, on Flickr

Comments

  • Bend The LightBend The Light Bend The Light Posts: 1,887Registered Users Major grins
    edited April 14, 2012
    Is this more like it?

    6929937996_e3c0da5d6b_o.jpg
    Hannah v2 by http://bendthelight.me.uk, on Flickr
  • RichardRichard Mildly bemused Madrid, SpainPosts: 17,744Administrators, Vanilla Admin moderator
    edited April 14, 2012
    Are you shooting raw? If so, you can just copy the tint and temp from 2 to 1 in ACR. If you have many images, use the ACR synchronize function.
  • Bend The LightBend The Light Bend The Light Posts: 1,887Registered Users Major grins
    edited April 14, 2012
    Richard wrote: »
    Are you shooting raw? If so, you can just copy the tint and temp from 2 to 1 in ACR. If you have many images, use the ACR synchronize function.

    Yes. I did that with the reworked one above. I put the new RAW file in ACR with the completed JPG from the previous one...then synchronised. The second image looked a little bland, so did a little in PS to sort it. not sure I've matched it all, though.

    I suppose I need to do global adjustments like that in ACR at the start...
  • RichardRichard Mildly bemused Madrid, SpainPosts: 17,744Administrators, Vanilla Admin moderator
    edited April 14, 2012
    Is this more like it?
    The rework is better, but it still looks redder than the one you like. If you are color blind, measurement is probably a good idea. The Dan Margulis guideline is that for Caucasians the A and B channels should both be positive and B should be somewhat greater than A. Both #2 and #3 are showing A greater than B in most of the skin areas, but the difference is greater in #3 than #2, which corresponds to my subjective impression.
  • basfltbasflt Major grins Posts: 1,882Registered Users Major grins
    edited April 14, 2012
    open both pics
    -windows > arrange > tile
    select the "wrong" one
    -Image > adjustments > match color
    -in source pane , select the other pic
    - now , play along with the various settings

    save statistics for use on multiple images in a series
  • Bend The LightBend The Light Bend The Light Posts: 1,887Registered Users Major grins
    edited April 14, 2012
    Richard wrote: »
    Are you shooting raw? If so, you can just copy the tint and temp from 2 to 1 in ACR. If you have many images, use the ACR synchronize function.
    basflt wrote: »
    open both pics
    -windows > arrange > tile
    select the "wrong" one
    -Image > adjustments > match color
    -in source pane , select the other pic
    - now , play along with the various settings

    save statistics for use on multiple images in a series

    Yeah, I had another go at that...got a little better. I definitely need to be more consisten at the time of the shoot, though. Cheers
  • SamSam San Jose CA Posts: 7,418Registered Users Major grins
    edited April 14, 2012
    I might be missing something here but if your shooting with strobes the temp should be consistent. You can use a custom WB and / or take the first shot with a gray card in the frame and white balance off that in post.

    Sam
  • Bend The LightBend The Light Bend The Light Posts: 1,887Registered Users Major grins
    edited April 14, 2012
    Sam wrote: »
    I might be missing something here but if your shooting with strobes the temp should be consistent. You can use a custom WB and / or take the first shot with a gray card in the frame and white balance off that in post.

    Sam

    Yes, that is what should be the case...but for somereason it isn't. Both shots above are taken in the same session, but with AWB in the camera, they came out different. I need to use Custom WB so the camera isn't adjusting all the time.
  • pathfinderpathfinder Drive By Digital Shooter Posts: 14,027Super Moderators moderator
    edited April 15, 2012
    Was her dress black?

    Can you use the eye dropper on her dress for a true neutral, or was it a dark blue?
    Pathfinder - www.pathfinder.smugmug.com

    Moderator of the Technique Forum and Finishing School on Dgrin
  • Bend The LightBend The Light Bend The Light Posts: 1,887Registered Users Major grins
    edited April 15, 2012
    Sam wrote: »
    I might be missing something here but if your shooting with strobes the temp should be consistent. You can use a custom WB and / or take the first shot with a gray card in the frame and white balance off that in post.

    Sam
    pathfinder wrote: »
    Was her dress black?

    Can you use the eye dropper on her dress for a true neutral, or was it a dark blue?

    It was black. So, in curves, use the black dropper? Worth a try...

    ...I ahve managed to work things out using ACR, and think I am getting consostent now. But always good to know what can be done after that stage.

    Cheers
  • Bend The LightBend The Light Bend The Light Posts: 1,887Registered Users Major grins
    edited April 15, 2012
    I did some more processing, used the copy/paste settings in ACR and bridge to make them all the same to start with. Then tried to do the same processing with each in PS. Here are a few just to compare. I think they look quite close...what do you think?

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    Hannah v5 by http://bendthelight.me.uk, on Flickr

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    Hannah v8 by http://bendthelight.me.uk, on Flickr

    6931226372_ce6362f4ac_o.jpg
    Hannah v10 by http://bendthelight.me.uk, on Flickr

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    Hannah v13 by http://bendthelight.me.uk, on Flickr

    Thanks
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