Alice in Wonderland

Foques · April 18, 2012

I had an opportunity to work with a local story teller / cosplayer. She was an amazing person to work with, and I am hoping to have more shoots with her once it gets warmer.

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thoughts?:deal

adbsgicom · April 18, 2012

Nice work. My faves are 2/4/7/9.

Cowboydoug · April 18, 2012

I would love to get my hands on a full size version of number 4... I'd love to throw a little of my PP on it... Thats "post processing" ... Hehe

reyvee61 · April 18, 2012

cowboydoug wrote: »

i would love to get my hands on a full size version of number 4... I'd love to throw a little of my pp on it... Thats "post processing" ... Hehe

Ha, I had to read that twice....

Foques · April 18, 2012

I'll take this as a compliment, Doug.
Sorry, our PP ways completely disagree in styling, and I am unsure that we should go this far.. thank you for the offer, sir.

Folks, I really could use some suggestions how to get a better pictures..

Andrew, thank you

reyvee61 · April 18, 2012

She looks like a delightful person to work with indeed.
Some nice shots, I only wish the exposures where better on 1,2,4,5 and 7 as they are tad on the hot side.

Foques · April 18, 2012

Rey, thank you for looking.
Would you mind posting an edit of what you see as a good exposure? I am thinking I need to recalibrate my screen again

reyvee61 · April 18, 2012

Foques wrote: »

Rey, thank you for looking.
Would you mind posting an edit of what you see as a good exposure? I am thinking I need to recalibrate my screen again

Primarily I'm looking at her skin (face and arms) as well as the whites on her dress. There are hot spots present in the aforementioned images.
On #1 for instance her nose, cheeks and arms are clipping as are some area's of her dress although the rest of the scene is nicely exposed.
On #8 her skin is well exposed throughout.

Foques · April 18, 2012

gotcha. thank you very much!

Cowboydoug · April 18, 2012

Foques wrote: »

I'll take this as a compliment, Doug.
Sorry, our PP ways completely disagree in styling, and I am unsure that we should go this far.. thank you for the offer, sir.

Folks, I really could use some suggestions how to get a better pictures..

Andrew, thank you

I certainly didn't mean to replace your PP with my PP... (how's that Rey? ...

) I simply meant for my own amusement ...the fantasy side of this image would be fun to see... for me...

adbsgicom · April 19, 2012

I sort of figured that somewhat blown look was what you were going for. If you shot raw, try pulling the highlights down in LR and see if you can recover some detail there.
#1 has really unflattering shadow patterns on the face, and her arms are much brighter than her face, so they take primary focus.
On #7 I'd have suggested having her move her hand back a little so it didn't obscure her chin as much.

novicesnapper · April 19, 2012

I think these are awesome, great concept! IMO/FWIW
#2 feels "hazy". Maybe bump the black, to knock some of that back?
#4 and #5 would like to see the blues pumped up ever so slightly, to make her dress pop more
#7 skin tones feel a smidgen cool, slightly hot on exposure?
#8 is so far out, super PP work! The Cheshire cat was a great touch
If I didn't mention an image, doesn't mean it is bad, I just thought it was good and have no critiques to offer on them. Looks like a fun shoot. Awesome control of DOF

Foques · April 19, 2012

thank you so very much!
Andrew, while you are correct, and I was going for a brighter look, I do need to keep an eye out for the hot spots, so it is super helpful. the beginning of the shoot was definitely challenging - sun was high, and harsh. to the end of the shoot, it went down.. which allowed for better light.
#7 - I absolutely agree with you, and kicking myself for not doing so.

Novice, #2 was my concern as well, i'm going to bump darks/contrast a wee tonight. I'm glad it wasn't only me.
will try out all other suggestions as well! thank you very much for taking the time to write this up! I really appreciate that!

Hackbone · April 19, 2012

You have some great ideas here, congrats on that. The shots do seem a bit hot however 1-2-4-5-& 7. Some of these could have been helped by someone holding a 4x4 piece of foam core over her to block the sun.

Nikolai · April 19, 2012

Nice series. Love #3!

reyvee61 · April 19, 2012

Hackbone wrote: »

You have some great ideas here, congrats on that. The shots do seem a bit hot however 1-2-4-5-& 7. Some of these could have been helped by someone holding a 4x4 piece of foam core over her to block the sun.

I made an easy to tear down and put back together scrim (3'X3') out of rip-stop nylon and pvc pipe that works super if you have an assistant with you.
Gives you just enough diffusion for high noon shoots and large enough to easily cover a good amount of area.

Foques · April 20, 2012

Rey, I think it is safe to say we need pictures of the said set up

I should really train my second half on this who assistant part.

I will adjust the exposure tonight, hopefully.

Hackbone · April 20, 2012

Arseny, there is no need for photos. You simply need something large to block the sun from hitting your subject. I've used the foam core board, a reflector to block, and even a parent to "stand here" to block the sun from hitting your subject. Just place in on a direct line from the sun to your subject. It will help in the exposure, there will be a difference between your subject and the background exposure making the bkg generally hot but that is ok.

Hackbone · April 20, 2012

Arsney, go to the pull back thread, post #232 photo #8 and you can see a shot of mom blocking light.

Foques · April 20, 2012

Charles, I know what you're saying, definitely understand that. The problem is - I am shooting by myself, and am "Shopping" for ideas of managing the whole thing by myself. $:\$

Will check out those posts in a second! thank you!

reyvee61 · April 20, 2012

Foques wrote: »

Charles, I know what you're saying, definitely understand that. The problem is - I am shooting by myself, and am "Shopping" for ideas of managing the whole thing by myself. $:\$

Will check out those posts in a second! thank you!

I understand your dilemma as I often shoot with only the model and using a scrim like the one I described wont be feasible without an assistant or stand of any sort and it's stands to reason that even a slight gust will take it down and send it sailing off into the distance.
In the case where I know I am flying solo then it's strictly setting up the shoot during a time of day that is ideal for shooting in direct sunlight such as early morning or late afternoon/evening.
I may be stating the obvious but if that's not feasible because of scheduling issues then I revert to being extra careful where I shoot, where is the sun, which way shall I face my model, is there a shaded area anywhere available and last but not least are there any reflective surfaces that can be used to my advantage such as sand or dirt?
As much as I shoot on location I can say the these item become a part of the experience though it may seem overwhelming at first.

Foques · April 20, 2012

yeah, I figured as much.

Quite honestly, I went completely against my usual rule, and did not scout the location prior to the shoot. Had I done that, we would not have used it - there was absolutely no place to get any shade as the bench in #1 sat in the open construction field... the tree she sits on was on the side, in a ditch, on the side of the river..

Time was also a problem as the place was 30 miles from my house (but only 5 miles from my work), so we met on a weekday, with not much time to spare.

Alice in Wonderland

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