EOS R vs Nikon z6

Awais YaqubAwais Yaqub One Inspired soulPosts: 10,561Registered Users Major grins

Hi, My 5dmk2 is finally giving up and i have to get rid of it and make room for EOS R. I wonder if nikon Z6 noise and DR performance is way ahead of canon EOS R which justifies selling all my canon lenses and accessories.
I saw ISO and DR tests on different websites while ISO performance looks similar to my eyes, DR looks better on z6 at extreme not sure if it makes difference in real life.

What i like about canon is ability to use my existing lenses with superb autofocus along with full articulating LCD.
What i like about Nikon is IBIS

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  • pathfinderpathfinder Drive By Digital Shooter western IndianaPosts: 14,434Super Moderators moderator

    I am a long time Canon shooter, Awais, and I have been waiting to hear about a Canon mirrorless pro body with IBIS also - The rumors I see on the web lead me to believe that it should debut yet this year. Canon has been introducing a lot of new very lovely glass for the Canon R system, so there seems be no doubt that more R bodies with more Pro features are in the pipeline. I have NO true knowledge or awareness of any of this, but it just seems pretty obvious to me, with all the new glass they are introducing for the R system.

    Like you I have been buried in suggestions to switch to Sony or to Nikon or whatever, but I and my wife have major investment EOS glass that works quite nicely, and I find I can create an occasional satisfactory image with the Canon bodies I presently own - indeed I just purchased an 80D for a walk around body and I like it quite a bit which I already knew as I liked the 70D I traded in for it.

    I am aware of the dynamic range discussions and the larger file sizes available with the Sony sensors, but I don't need, nor really want, 40+MPixle files and if I really did I might have considered the Canon 5DS R . I am perfectly content with a 5DMk IV or my 7D Mk II for my uses.

    So, I would try to hang in there and wait, but if not, the Canon's EOS R body is pretty nice from the folks who use it. No, it does not have IBIS, but is that a deal breaker? - only you can answer that. One other feature I like about the Canon R and Rp bodies are that they continue to use Canon's radio controlled flash system.

    I know everyone is predicting the death of the SLR, but I am pretty old school, and am not sure I truly believe it yet, especially for shooting wildlife in low light with long glass. Time will tell, I guess. And yes, I actually have used the Sony A9 with the Sony 100-400.

    Anyway, I am waiting to hear an announcement of a Canon R Pro body with IBIS yet this year and I will jump on that at that time if it is affordable.

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,186Super Moderators moderator

    The Canon 5D Mark IV is an extremely competent stills body that also has a very nice video capability. Compared to the 5D Mark II you have, the Mark IV AF is a level of magnitude better. Plus Dual-Pixel AF in video and live-view is fast and accurate as well. Add a flash with AF-Assist capabilities and you can literally instantly autofocus a freshly painted plain wall in complete darkness. (You can also just use a wireless flash transmitter which has AF-Assist if you don't need/want a flash on camera.) Competent AF is my number one concern for any sort of candid/journalistic photography, and the Mark IV has that covered.

    Basically, the 5D Mark IV would preserve every lens and accessory you already have for the Mark II, but every aspect of image capture is faster and more reliable on the Mark IV.

    The touch-screen interface is a real blessing in low-light on the Mark IV, and you can change settings quickly and painlessly, similar to the EOS R, but the Mark IV still has a joystick control option I very much appreciate.

    Battery life is also much better for normal still photography on the Mark IV, compared to the EOS R. Much, much better.

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  • JusticeiroJusticeiro E clunibus tractum Posts: 1,171Registered Users Major grins

    I am in exactly the same boat, with the same camera.

    To my mind the R isn't very attractive at the moment- resolution is better than the 5d mkii (50% more, which I suppose is better), but seems pretty much equal to the 5d mk iv- at least on the spec sheet, I don't know how the "look" of it is different. I suspect that the EOS R is more or less a mirrorless version of the 5d mk iv.

    The main advantages of the EOS R is that you can use the RF mount glass with it. Which is supposed to be better, although when comparing the RF 28-70 f2.0 with the EF 24-70 f2.8, I suspect that the quality difference is probably not visible without a loupe. (Suspect, I haven't shot this lens). I more than suspect that I am not going to take much better pics with the 28-70 than the 24-70, although others may. The thing is, a new body and the new RF lens are going to set me back 5,000 eurs or so. That's a lot of cash. I really can't justify that at the moment. So I'd have a new body shooting my current line up of EF lenses. I'm not sure how that leaves me better off than just using a 5d mk iv. Although the other advantage is that I can mount ALL my m42 glass, of which I have a reasonable set, on the R, whereas on the 5d series you have mirror fouling issues. I currently use these on my Fuji which is my lightweight walking about screwing around camera. I'd love my 30mm Lydith to be 30mm, however, instead of 45.

    The main drawback of NOT getting the EOS R is the ugly truth unadmitted by Canon that the EF line is set to shuffle off this mortal coil. There is no way they can support 3 lens mount systems (EF/EF-S, M, and EF R) in the long term. Frankly, I think supporting 2 is a bad idea, especially given the radical shrinkage in the camera market that has happened, and is yet to come.

    So any EF glass you buy now will likely be obsolete sooner rather than later.

    It's a very confusing time to have a 5d mk ii.

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,186Super Moderators moderator
    edited April 26, 2019

    To anyone with a Canon 5D Mark II, it's still a very capable and viable camera in 2019. I am keeping my copy of that camera until it fails for whatever reason. Used copies in good condition are regularly available, and pretty reasonable in cost.

    If you have EF glass that you like, but you want to upgrade/replace the camera and stay with a dSLR, both the Canon 5D Mark III (used) and the Canon Mark IV (used and new) are available and they both have benefits above the Mark II. (You won't regret the upgrade.)

    The Canon 5D Mark IV is still, and to this day, a wonderful all-rounder stills camera. The AF is swift and accurate, and combination of touch-screen and joystick make AF point and AF region selection effortless.

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  • Brett1000Brett1000 Major grins https://www.flickr.com/photos/photoscw/Posts: 819Registered Users Major grins
    edited April 29, 2019

    @Awais Yaqub said:
    Hi, My 5dmk2 is finally giving up and i have to get rid of it and make room for EOS R. I wonder if nikon Z6 noise and DR performance is way ahead of canon EOS R which justifies selling all my canon lenses and accessories.
    I saw ISO and DR tests on different websites while ISO performance looks similar to my eyes, DR looks better on z6 at extreme not sure if it makes difference in real life.

    What i like about canon is ability to use my existing lenses with superb autofocus along with full articulating LCD.
    What i like about Nikon is IBIS

    After using the older Canon M5 mirrorless for a couple of years I wouldn't go back to a DSLR, If the M5 ever quits I'll look at full frame mirrorless like the Canon RP. You can easily use EF and EFS lenses with an adapter.
    The large NY online camera retailers have a 30 day return policy - makes it easy to evaluate before committing

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  • Awais YaqubAwais Yaqub One Inspired soul Posts: 10,561Registered Users Major grins

    Thanks guys, just pulled the trigger on EOS-R, will receive in few days. I liked 5dmkIV but tilting screen was something i missed in 5d2, In Pakistan we don't have exchange policies or amazing offers but i got bundle deal of adapter and eos R body for around 1800USD.

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,186Super Moderators moderator

    @Awais Yaqub said:
    ... i got bundle deal of adapter and eos R body for around 1800USD.

    $1800USD for the lens adapter plus "R" body is an awesome price!

    ziggy53
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  • Awais YaqubAwais Yaqub One Inspired soul Posts: 10,561Registered Users Major grins

    Just received the body and tried sigma 50mm 1.4 art. I am surprised how useful this lens has become, tack sharp focus on eyes shot after shot under indoor living room light. I have to upgrade the firmware and review RAW files yet, so far very pleasing experience with all the new technology.

    Touch Bar is not an issue rather i found it useful, touch pad focus is such a wonderful option i think that alone justifies the upgrade from 5D. Small body is reasonably designed to hold it with ease coupled with big lens such as 70-200 f2.8. However will take few days to have full grip on operations.

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,186Super Moderators moderator

    Great news, Awais! Glad to hear it's working well for you. Then again, you made amazing images with the Canon 5D Mark II, which can be a beast to master.

    ziggy53
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  • sara505sara505 Major grins Posts: 1,668Registered Users Major grins

    I am also in same boat. Two 5d mkii bodies, a lifetime collection of glass, but I'm getting old and this stuff is getting heavier by the minute. I'm considering the R, or jumping ship altogether. Following. Any updates, Awais?

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