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What can you believe these days?

fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
edited February 15, 2004 in Finishing School
Fishwife made an interesting comment the other day, as she watched me manipulate a photo. She said "I don't believe any photographs anymore. Anything can be changed."

Ya know...she's right. Used to be that photos had a relatively high degree of credibility, but no more.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson

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    zero-zerozero-zero Registered Users Posts: 147 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2004
    Relatively is the perfect term. Photo manipulation is as old as photography itself. It is only the effortlessness that the computer brought into the game, and the public availability, that are making people realize what has been a truth for ages.

    I know an old-style retoucher, a very old man. Trust me on this - his stuff is PERFECT. He can swap people around, seamlessly eliminate a person from a photo, the works. He uses watercolors, airbrush, and pencil. The thing that really got me was that he does most of his manipulation on the negative. bowdown.gif

    here's a couple quick links just to get the thread rolling:

    The commissar vanishes

    Larry's Face on deception
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    zero-zerozero-zero Registered Users Posts: 147 Major grins
    edited February 13, 2004
    Fucke. Sorry fish, didn't mean to post a thread-killer...headscratch.gif
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    wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 13, 2004
    No worries, same thing happened last time we discussed this. Shay weighed in with a very authoritative defense of photo manipulation, and that was that. :D
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
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    fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited February 13, 2004
    zero-zero wrote:
    Fucke. Sorry fish, didn't mean to post a thread-killer...headscratch.gif
    I really enjoyed those links. Maybe everyone is just stunned ;)
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
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    ShakeyShakey Registered Users Posts: 1,004 Major grins
    edited February 13, 2004
    Thanks for posting this I enjoyed the links.
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    GREAPERGREAPER Registered Users Posts: 3,113 Major grins
    edited February 15, 2004
    As did I.

    As far as the news goes i am a bit of a hermit and had no idea that this stuff was going on.

    Pretty far out.

    If they all treat it like its ok, how long before a history changing event is totaly faked.

    Wag The Dog may not be as far out as it seemed.
    http://dehmphoto.smugmug.com/

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    kometkomet Registered Users Posts: 117 Major grins
    edited February 15, 2004
    Nothing like the real thing, baby.mwink.gif
    komet gives light so that you may find the way.
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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 15, 2004
    GREAPER wrote:
    As did I.

    As far as the news goes i am a bit of a hermit and had no idea that this stuff was going on.

    Pretty far out.

    If they all treat it like its ok, how long before a history changing event is totaly faked.

    Wag The Dog may not be as far out as it seemed.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/14/politics/campaign/14VET.html?ex=1077796671&ei=1&en=9f966ede0847d808

    "In recent days, a picture showing Mr. Kerry at a podium with Ms.
    Fonda has circulated on the Internet. But the picture is a hoax,
    according to the photo agency that owns the original, Corbis. In the
    original photo, Mr. Kerry is alone at the podium."

    In the election where Dukakis got trounced the dirty tricks included a photo of Boston Harbor with a warning sign that did not exist.
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    wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 15, 2004
    thumb.gif Thanks cmr, very interesting.
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
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