In FF 2.0, i find that the "persistent" exif box is not so persistent. When I open an image in the lightbox, the exif box disappears when the LB is closed.
Also, i like all these slick looking things, however, they do something that i despise on photo sites. They all cover the image. I didnt like it with the thumbs, and they were just kinda tiny, but these things are huge. I find that I have to move the exif thing every time. Also, sometimes it seems to randomly move by a few pixels, havnt been able to sort out why.
Would it be possible to have the pop out thingies slide out to the side or something? or the bottom where there may be more room? then they could even always be there, and look just as slick and "web 2.0"
K, it just did it again. It was 6 minutes or more (timed from my last post on the topic to a minute ago). And all it took was clicking on the tab, and the page reloaded.
EDIT: Fully updated OSX 10.4.
i cant reproduce. i'll run this by jimmy and see if he can get it to happen.
Last time we released something major, we didn't have an open beta. But we listened, and learned, and now we've got one for the latest big release. Details are over on the Beta page on our Wiki.
This isn't a final product - it's a beta. We know there are bugs, we've listed some of them on the Wiki, so read carefully. If you find new things, or want to give us some feedback, this thread is the place to do it.
Hopefully everyone likes the super-speed and extra clean layout, but feel free to let us have it if you don't.
I have tried loging in but I am having trouble. When I get the network login screen I type "****" as user name and then "*****" as PW. So far so good....I then go to the home beta page (https://beta.smugmug.net/login.mg?goTo=http://beta.smugmug.net/)
Do I login here also? I did using my regular login (e-mail and current PW, but it givesme a the error "your login/PW is incorrect...it is not). I tried the username/password and all other possible combinations, no luck. What am I doing wrong.
PS. looks like I am the only one with this trouble so it must be something I am not doing. Your help is appreciated.
Well that presents another issue then that we will have to discuss. Perhaps it isn't obvious enough that it persists.
What about a little 'flap' on the edge of a photo - this would grab the vieweres attention that there is something there for us to see - and we will move our pointer to the area, bringing the flyout. Eh? Eh?
The "problem" I think you're running into is this: Many of us are still very used to the constraints of Web 1.0. They are now ingrained in our intuition about how the internet works. So, as you add these cutting edge features, it's going to take some time for people to think outside the box (quite literally). Despite my earlier posts, the more I think about it, I'm not sure you should expend too much effort leading people to some of these features. I think it's really a matter of education and time. Eventually, we'll all just expect things to work like fancy, dragable, persistent windows.
A good analogy is right-click context menus in Windows. Back in they day, they didn't exist. I don't know how long they existed before I even started using them. But now, if I can't find a feature or option on the screen, I right click it just expecting I'll be presented with a context-sensitive menu. As natural as that is to me now, Windows never "directed" me to find them. Had it, there would have been one more thing cluttering my screen.
Personally, I'd find this annoying. I don't want anything I didn't specify being "attached" to my photos all the time. Just my opinion, though. I prefer Smugmug's current implementation to Zenfolio's. With Zen, a little gray area pops over the photo when it's moused over. You then have to travel to the gray area and wait even longer for actual commands to show up. Much less waiting with SM.
good catch on the lightbox thing.
for the exif box moving by a few pixels...it automagically repositions itself when you resize the window, but other than that it shouldnt move. Is this the behavior you're seeing?
The old way, is that the info is right there in front of you waiting for you to click it (assuming we allow its placement). It's nice not having that there, but at the same time - I prefer that option. Also - with it right there in front of you - you (the new visiter) are aware that there are choices and/or options for you.
I'll concede that choice is always good. If SmugMug were to offer an option around this, would you rather it be an either/or thing, or a one-or-both thing?
Couple of comments on the behavior of the arrow keys...
I'm not sure if AJAX apps can handle combined keystrokes, but something like a shift-arrow or a ctrl-arrow (or command-arrow, of course ) would be neat for jumping between gallery pages lickety-spilt.
I vote to ditch the up/down arrow navigation.
Me too. Although I have a scroll mouse, on my laptop I often use the laptop-friendly cross-browser keyboard navigation for browsing. That is:
Spacebar and Shift-Spacebar to scroll vertically in big chunks
Up Arrow/Down Arrow to scroll vertically one line at a time
Command-[ and ] for Back/Forward
Pressing Up/Down arrow in the smugmug beta site simultaneously changes the photo and scrolls the page, if the page is taller than the window (causing scroll bars to be present).
Also, I don't like the "Back" label in the smugmug beta. In browsers, Back means "the previous page in your browser history which could be on a completely different site." I understand that Back is shorter than Previous, but the term Back has such a specific meaning in everyone's browser experience that I don't feel comfortable using it to refer to something that isn't about the browser history.
I like it. Just did some preliminary fiddling around with it but seems to work just fine. Clean and fast as advertised and I actually thought the flyouts were pretty cool.
we have figured out how to prevent scrolling with the up/down keys. does that change anyone's opinion?
What about [page up] and [page down] to move between gallery pages and [home] and [end] to go to the first gallery page and last gallery page?
Problem is that when real estate is limited, scrolling is exactly what I want the up/down arrows to do. Wish I could have it both ways. How's that for frustrating users?
I noticed on your beta site Chris, that your images tend to shift/shimmer when the mouse pointer is placed over the larger image. I didn't notice this on my site as all my photos are landscape where as most of yours are portrait...is this what others have mentioned about shifting a pixel or two? Doesn't seem to do it with IE6 but it does with FF2.
EDIT: BTW: Awesome IR images - they really look great with the white background