Some help with keyword searching

mhilbush · October 7, 2006

I'm having some trouble using the keyword search feature. Is there something wrong with the following URL that would cause the keyworded photos to not appear? I'm seeing bahavior that I really don't understand. I hope the explanation below makes sense. If not, let me know if I left out any important details.

- Sometimes it takes a VERY long time (easily over 1 minute) for the results page to load completely. The first two sections of the page load fast (i.e. the "keywords matching" and "galleries matching" sections), but the third section of the results page (i.e. "photos matching") takes a long time to load.

- Once the "photos matching" section of the page does load, it shows no photos, even though my site has photos containing these keywords. Not only that, the 2 keywords in the URL below (i.e. fallball and hilbush) appear in the "keywords matching" section of the results page).

http://hilbush.smugmug.com/search/index.mg?searchWords=fallball+hilbush&searchType=InUser&NickName=hilbush

One other confusing point. The following URL does return the photos in question.

http://hilbush.smugmug.com/keyword/hilbush-fallball

Thanks for the help!
Mark

Andy · October 7, 2006

Within your site, hilbush is unneeded...

trying falball, I get these results, really fast.

http://hilbush.smugmug.com/keyword/fallball

mhilbush · October 7, 2006

Andy wrote:

Within your site, hilbush is unneeded...

Ok. Just so I'm clear, are you saying that &Nickname=hilbush is unneeded. Or, the whole thing starting at &SearchType=...?

Andy wrote:

trying falball, I get these results, really fast.

http://hilbush.smugmug.com/keyword/fallball

So do I when I run that URL. But what about the behavior of the first URL in my original post? Why does it take so long, then not return any photos?

Thanks,
Mark

mhilbush · October 8, 2006

I've browsed to other members sites and have attempted keyword searches. The result is the same -- a very long running search (sometimes over 100 sec), which results in no images found even though the member clearly has galleries containing images with the keyword.

Is anyone else seeing this? At this point, I'm really starting to question my sanity.

Mark

Andy · October 8, 2006

mhilbush wrote:

I've browsed to other members sites and have attempted keyword searches. The result is the same -- a very long running search (sometimes over 100 sec), which results in no images found even though the member clearly has galleries containing images with the keyword.

Is anyone else seeing this? At this point, I'm really starting to question my sanity.

Mark

Hi Mark,
I've asked for some help on this, stay tuned.

mhilbush · October 8, 2006

Thanks!

Pamela · October 8, 2006

Im having the same keyword search problem, it takes along time with no results, and if I get results Im getting another persons photos. (which Im surprised happened to be taken at the same function!)
Unless I have my keywords not right.

mhilbush · February 25, 2007

This problem appears to be back. This is obviously very frustrating for people who want to search my site for specific photos.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mark

mhilbush · March 10, 2007

Even when this works (which is not often the case) it is painfully slow. It is not uncommon for me to see 30 seconds or longer response times on keyword searches. Can you PLEASE look into this?
Mark

warren · March 11, 2007

Same here for all of the above.
• very slow searches, a few minutes to 10+ minutes.
• never returns any of my pictures eventhough my keywords are listed in my top 100 keywords section of my control panel. I made up unique, nonsensical keywords and caption words which no one else should have, (unless they have really bad spelling).
• either returns nothing or other people's pictures which are credited as being my pictures.

The search function has never worked for me since I started last month.

cheers,
warren

mhilbush · March 11, 2007

Here's a little more info about the behavior I'm seeing:

- The first time I search on a keyword, I'll either get no thumbs returned, or the search will take a very long time (> 30 seconds).
- If the first search returned a result, any subsequent search returns quickly.

Note that the photos containing the keywords from my original post are no longer on Smugmug, so accessing those URLs will yield no search results. Also, given the behavior I just cited above, it's pointless for me to post any other URLs, since the search will complete normally on all searches except for the first one.

[rant on]
I'd really like to see this problem fixed permanently. I tag my sports photos with the players' last names, so that the parents can easily find all the photos containing their son/daughter. It looks pretty bad for all of us if searching doesn't work reliably and quickly.
[rant off]

Mark

warren · March 12, 2007

All my search problems seem to be fixed! Thank you to the mystery behind-the-scenes person.

mhilbush · March 12, 2007

Yes, I would agree. It's working much better now.
Mark

warren · March 22, 2007

All the same search problems are back again.

Warren

Andy · March 22, 2007

warren wrote:

All the same search problems are back again.

Warren

Hi Warren, could you be more specific please for us, so we can help? Thanks -

Andy

warren · March 22, 2007

Searching from my homepage or from within any of my gallery pages

• very slow searches, from a few minutes to 10+ minutes.
• never returns any of my pictures.
• either returns nothing or only other people's pictures which are credited as being my pictures.

cheers,
warren
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mhilbush · March 25, 2007

Warren's correct. Keyword searching is broken again. As Warren says, the searches are VERY slow. Unlike Warren, however, the photos returned from my searches are what I expect (i.e. only my photos containing the keyword(s) on which I searched).

At the time of this post, my searches are averaging between 1 & 2 MINUTES. Who's gonna wait a couple minutes to get search results? Certainly none of the people with whom I share photos! I'd really like to see you put in a permanent fix for this problem, because what you're doing now isn't getting the job done.

Sorry for the strong language, but I'm growing frustrated with the lack of a long-term solution to this problem.

Mark

Andy · March 25, 2007

mhilbush wrote:

Sorry for the strong language, but I'm growing frustrated with the lack of a long-term solution to this problem.

Mark

Hi Mark, I'll ask the SmugSorcerers, what's up?

Andy · March 25, 2007

mhilbush wrote:

Warren's correct. Keyword searching is broken again. As Warren says, the searches are VERY slow. Unlike Warren, however, the photos returned from my searches are what I expect (i.e. only my photos containing the keyword(s) on which I searched).

At the time of this post, my searches are averaging between 1 & 2 MINUTES. Who's gonna wait a couple minutes to get search results? Certainly none of the people with whom I share photos! I'd really like to see you put in a permanent fix for this problem, because what you're doing now isn't getting the job done.

Sorry for the strong language, but I'm growing frustrated with the lack of a long-term solution to this problem.

Mark

Mark - try again now pls

Onethumb has done some more SmugSorcery and things are quite fast now!

Allen · March 25, 2007

Wow, search is extreemly fast, way to go SmugSorcerers.

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warren · March 26, 2007

Yes, it's working great. Just keep it like that now!

richW · March 26, 2007

Andy wrote:

Onethumb has done some more SmugSorcery and things are quite fast now!

Wow...a lot faster.
Returned a search for one of my keywords in less than 4 seconds: 17438 - images, 127 galleries

mhilbush · March 27, 2007

Andy wrote:

Mark - try again now pls

Onethumb has done some more SmugSorcery and things are quite fast now!

Excellent results!!

Thank you.
Mark

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