Dgrin Time incorrect?

ivar · November 5, 2007

I'll see what I can do. Also moved this post to the Dgrin support forum.

gus · November 5, 2007

36 mins slow for me...like i care though. I just like to hand work to Ivar.

patch29 · November 16, 2007

Seymore wrote:

Checking the time stamp again because I noticed it was back to running fast on another post, again. Maybe the new server clocks are not sync'd?

YEP... They're an hour fast again. Ivar?

Users can modify the time displayed in the control panel (You!), then choose the correct Date & Time Options.

DavidTO · November 16, 2007

It's right on the money for me.

DavidTO · November 16, 2007

Seymore wrote:

I'm seeing you posted at 1:58pm. Look at the time stamp on your message. Is that what time it is in TO? It's 1pm (now) here.

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DavidTO · November 16, 2007

hmmm....

You can log onto www.digitalgrin.com
www.dgrin.com
dgrin.com
digitalgrin.com

Not sure if they're different servers or not, but I'm on www.dgrin.com. Maybe try that?

David_S85 · November 17, 2007

Seymore, please try this in your control panel:

Automatically detect DST settings: set to NO

Is DST currently in effect?: set to NO

You had it at YES for both.

Andy · November 17, 2007

Seymore wrote:

Hence it's a bug in SM!

?

Andy · November 17, 2007

Seymore wrote:

. It's NOT a problem on my end. OK?

I'm so sorry Seymore, the system appears to be working just right for all of us here. I wish I had a better answer for you, but I don't

we are getting the accurate timestamps.

Skippy · November 17, 2007

DavidTO wrote:

It's right on the money for me.

Times right for me too and I'm on the other side of the globe

... Skippy
.

Seymore · November 18, 2007

With this post I logged into www.digitalgrin.com. Let's see if the time stamp is ok here...

UPDATE: Nope Shows 1:15am where the time here is actually 12:15am.

Mike Lane · November 18, 2007

Seymore wrote:

With this one I turned off DST, manually.

UPDATE: and it shows properly. Something wrong with the AUTO aspect of setting DST in the DGRIN servers. It only works, for me, in manual mode. So in the spring I need to turn DST back on in the control panel? Auto worked will we had the offset in DST, per the Govt.

So you figured it out?

As a side note, you may find your browsing experience better if you turned on your cleartype text.

Andy · November 18, 2007

Seymore wrote:

It's still what I see as a DGRIN bug, and something that should be totally transparent to the end-user. And I shouldn't have to make any changes to my setting for DST. That is a server function.

"turned on your cleartype text"? Please explain...

I'm sorry but I disagree. If we had this bug, I'm guessing that hundreds of Dgrinners would be jumping down my throat

I'm sorry that it's not working right for you - I hope that you're able to sort it out soon? What else can we do to help you?

Andy · November 18, 2007

Seymore wrote:

Well, I see all these "improvements", but I don't see specific (minor) issues taken quite as seriously. And if I see it, but you don't, you belittle me by saying that I'm lying (what I hear you saying to me) and it's not a bug! If only one person sees a problem, doesn't mean it not a bug. Means that it is only affecting one person. But it's still a bug and something that I CAN'T fix permanently!

Yes Andy, there is one more thing you can do for me... Explain why the AUTO aspect of the DST doesn't work for me. I can make the changes manually, but this should not something I should have to worry about and should be transparent to me. It was only since the week delay of DST that I observed this problem. I also dealt with Ivar, via PM, when this first started up. Maybe he made some change on my specific setting that were ONLY reflected on my acct? Have you contacted him and asked any questions? Prior to all of this (DST) I had no issues.

Seymore, I'm really sorry you take everything that I the wrong way

I don't belittle my customers or our forum members. Period.

I'm really sorry you feel this way, Seymore. I'm really sorry that you have this problem with your time stamp.

If I could fix this, I would - if there was something to fix.

But honestly, and truly, this is about the lowest priority on my list, because only one person is telling me it's busted. And you insist it is a bug but nobody's reproducing it. So what am I supposed to do? Find someone to reproduce it, and I'll be on it.

For now, I'm moving on, Seymore, until someone tells me this is a reproducible thing and can show me the steps.

Again, I'm sorry that you take offense at this, and I'm sorry Dgrin forum software isn't working for you as it is supposed to.

I'd really like to help but I'm out of answers for you until you can show me a way to reproduce it. I'm really, really sorry.

Mike Lane · November 19, 2007

Seymore wrote:

It's still what I see as a DGRIN bug, and something that should be totally transparent to the end-user. And I shouldn't have to make any changes to my setting for DST. That is a server function.

"turned on your cleartype text"? Please explain...

I'll let the internets do my talking

Microsoft's guide to how to setup cleartype for windows xp
Wikipedia entry on cleartype

Mike Lane · November 19, 2007

Seymore wrote:

Mike... I'm not running XP, so I can't use this. But thanks for the education.

What are you running?

DoctorIt · November 19, 2007

Seymore wrote:

It does what I need it to do.

Mate, no need to get defensive, Mike's trying to help you fix a problem that can't be duplicated anywhere but your desk.

Maybe you should just get a Mac. :hide

ivar · November 19, 2007

Hey Seymore,

set the automatic detection to 'yes' and clear all your (dgrin) cookies. Then, log in again, see if that does the trick?

Also, please check your computer's DST settings. This is where Dgrin gets the info from.

DavidTO · November 19, 2007

Hey, Seymore, as you figure this thing out, I just want to point out that you don't need to post to check on it, as the time is displayed at the bottom of the dgrin page, like this:

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Mike Lane · November 19, 2007

DavidTO wrote:

Hey, Seymore, as you figure this thing out, I just want to point out that you don't need to post to check on it, as the time is displayed at the bottom of the dgrin page, like this:

Hey, speaking of which, you didn't accidentally change your time zone in the dgrin control panel did you? Just thinking of reasons this could have happened.

bwg · November 19, 2007

Seymore wrote:

W2k/SP4 on a P4-3ghz with 1.5G of RAM and a 21" CRT. It does what I need it to do.

Except recognize the new DST settings.

from this MS KB article : http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_topissues

Windows 2000 has passed the end of Mainstream Support and will not be receiving an update without Extended Hotfix Support.
All versions of Windows can be manually updated by using the tzedit.exe utility or other techniques documented in Knowledge Base article 914387, Online Webcast 930688, and similar articles for other countries. That is the preferred method of remediation for any product outside of Mainstream Support. (The tzedit.exe tool allows you to create and edit time zone entries for the Date/Time settings in Control Panel, especially for daylight saving time.)

Mike Lane · November 19, 2007

bigwebguy wrote:

Except recognize the new DST settings.

from this MS KB article : http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_topissues

Well I guess that is sorted.

Andy · November 21, 2007

Seymore wrote:

It's apparent to me that Andy doesn't have time for one W2k user.

Hi Seymore, please don't twist the issue. I'm not sure what I could do for you (and anyone else running Windows 2000)? If I had a way to fix you up I'd be all over it like nobody's business. If you have the fix, and it's reasonable wrt the rest of the 99.99% of the community that doesn't have this problem, I'll work on it. Let me know, anything to make this issue go away for you.

Allen · November 21, 2007

Running win2KP here and it changed with DST. Ran no M$ update junk either.

Just go into your profile and change the GMT +1 or -1 twice a year. Simple,
easy and the other 363 days do nuthin.:D

Andy · November 21, 2007

Seymore wrote:

Al... you're aware that the Govt implemented a change as to WHEN DST is changed now, right? So did you note that the DST changed on your machine with the old date or the new date?

Seymore I got your pm, and this has now gotten to something where you are impacting my ability to serve the rest of Dgrin and SmugMug customers, effectively. Post here in thread, or don't post at all, that's okay. But I can't deal with this issue in this manner any more, Seymore.

I have stated that if I had a way to fix this for you, or if you could give me a way to fix it, we'd surely do it. And I meant that

Again, I'm terribly sorry that this issue affects you so. I'm so sorry that I dont have a fix.

Seymore, I'm really, really, Sorry.

Dgrin Time incorrect?

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