I make it policy to never let ignorance stand in the way of my opinion. ~Justiceiro
"Your decisions on whether to buy, when to buy and what to buy should depend on careful consideration of your needs primarily, with a little of your wants thrown in for enjoyment, After all photography is a hobby, even for pros." ~Herbert Keppler
Maybe it's more a matter of which 16-bits you want to display. 30 bits would let you have Adobe RGB or NTSC or whatever, with headroom to spare.
Well I think you should try that Viewsonic. At $455 MSRP, that really makes me wonder why I just spent $800 on a NEC 2090UXi scratch Let us know if you buy one!
Peace,
Sanaka
WooHooo! New dSLR!:barb : Canon XSi / 450D
Kit lens for now: 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS
CS3 supports 16 bits per channel. That HP display is 10 bits per channel. My NEC 2090 Uxi has 12-bit color look-up tables, but those extra tones are only used to make sure any color or gamma corrections still produce smooth gradients without banding artifacs. The amount of actual tones displayed at any time is the usual 8 bits per channel 16,7 million. I'd wager that the HP display does the same thing.
The widest gamut reachable depends on the backlight and color filters. The amount of color tones depends on the lcd part and the electronics driving it.
HP's display is less groound breaking as it might first seem. We will see what it can actually do when someone measures it's performance.
As per the Viewsonic, 2ms response times suggest a tn-film lcd panel. (Besides anything at 10ms or below is perfactly acceptable) Wouldn't buy one of those either without seeing the measuments as tn panels are notorious for inaccurate color. Also 106% is too much for an accurate gamut, and would require more than 8-bit look-up tables to correct properly - Viewsonic does not state as having this.
The number of bits has almost nothing to do with the size of the gamut, it only tells you how many steps you have in your gamut. You can have 32-bit sRGB but it won't look any better.
The widest gamut reachable depends on the backlight and color filters. The amount of color tones depends on the lcd part and the electronics driving it.
Yup, if that display has a higher gamut, it's not going to be because of the bits alone, it's going to be because of the LED backlight and hardware, as the better LED monitors are demonstrating now.
Doesn't CS3 only support 16-bit color? What are they using to get to 30-bits?
The "30-bit" monitor really means 10 bits per channel. Photoshop Extended supports 32 bits per channel. But you have to use a special viewing mode to extract the tones you want to actually use from the image.
That "professional series" *cough* Viewsonic 22" uses a "TN" panel. It would be a shame to drive a CS3 image to that monitor, pretty much a waste of time and $$$ imho.
.... I just checked out some of the other so-called "professional" VP series monitors from Viewsonic. I'm not impressed at all.
makes me wonder why I just spent $800 on a NEC 2090UXi
Now I remember!:
pyry wrote:
2ms response times suggest a tn-film lcd panel...and would require more than 8-bit look-up tables to correct properly - Viewsonic does not state as having this.
Peace,
Sanaka
WooHooo! New dSLR!:barb : Canon XSi / 450D
Kit lens for now: 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS
But the viewsonic is almost half the price... If this was my sole means of income I would spare no expense, but I can get 2 of the viewsonics for almost the same price...
I'm a student, therefore on a tight budget.:D
I make it policy to never let ignorance stand in the way of my opinion. ~Justiceiro
"Your decisions on whether to buy, when to buy and what to buy should depend on careful consideration of your needs primarily, with a little of your wants thrown in for enjoyment, After all photography is a hobby, even for pros." ~Herbert Keppler
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I want to try one of these:
http://www.viewsonic.com/professional/
Full NTSC color gamut in a 2ms package.
"Your decisions on whether to buy, when to buy and what to buy should depend on careful consideration of your needs primarily, with a little of your wants thrown in for enjoyment, After all photography is a hobby, even for pros."
~Herbert Keppler
Well I think you should try that Viewsonic. At $455 MSRP, that really makes me wonder why I just spent $800 on a NEC 2090UXi
Peace,
Sanaka
Kit lens for now: 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS
CS3 supports 16 bits per channel. That HP display is 10 bits per channel. My NEC 2090 Uxi has 12-bit color look-up tables, but those extra tones are only used to make sure any color or gamma corrections still produce smooth gradients without banding artifacs. The amount of actual tones displayed at any time is the usual 8 bits per channel 16,7 million. I'd wager that the HP display does the same thing.
The widest gamut reachable depends on the backlight and color filters. The amount of color tones depends on the lcd part and the electronics driving it.
HP's display is less groound breaking as it might first seem. We will see what it can actually do when someone measures it's performance.
As per the Viewsonic, 2ms response times suggest a tn-film lcd panel. (Besides anything at 10ms or below is perfactly acceptable) Wouldn't buy one of those either without seeing the measuments as tn panels are notorious for inaccurate color. Also 106% is too much for an accurate gamut, and would require more than 8-bit look-up tables to correct properly - Viewsonic does not state as having this.
http://pyryekholm.kuvat.fi/
The number of bits has almost nothing to do with the size of the gamut, it only tells you how many steps you have in your gamut. You can have 32-bit sRGB but it won't look any better.
Yup, if that display has a higher gamut, it's not going to be because of the bits alone, it's going to be because of the LED backlight and hardware, as the better LED monitors are demonstrating now.
The "30-bit" monitor really means 10 bits per channel. Photoshop Extended supports 32 bits per channel. But you have to use a special viewing mode to extract the tones you want to actually use from the image.
That "professional series" *cough* Viewsonic 22" uses a "TN" panel. It would be a shame to drive a CS3 image to that monitor, pretty much a waste of time and $$$ imho.
.... I just checked out some of the other so-called "professional" VP series monitors from Viewsonic. I'm not impressed at all.
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pyry wrote: Peace,
Sanaka
Kit lens for now: 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS
I'm a student, therefore on a tight budget.:D
"Your decisions on whether to buy, when to buy and what to buy should depend on careful consideration of your needs primarily, with a little of your wants thrown in for enjoyment, After all photography is a hobby, even for pros."
~Herbert Keppler