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how to photoshop like this...

BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
edited May 26, 2008 in Finishing School
I am wanting to figure out how to creat post processing like some of these photos...
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/504485673_47cfd6afff.jpg?v=0
Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpn/504485673/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/2117551435_943b432c84.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2327/1568691505_7e1655e2af.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2011/2175077893_6cc4413fdc.jpg?v=
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1198/843701677_fb7c45f5f9.jpg?v=0
source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jazoni/

If I am not allowed to post from other sites I apologize...



but I would love for someone to enlighten me on this technique...if anyone could help that would be awesome and much appreciated!

Thanks.
Brandon Perron Photography
www.brandonperron.com

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    Izzy GaravitoIzzy Garavito Registered Users Posts: 228 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    Have you tried asking him/her? They look like well-done HDRs to me
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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    Have you tried asking him/her? They look like well-done HDRs to me

    Yes no reponse...It is funny some love to share how they do things and other seem to want to keep it a seceret.

    I think they are really good HDR as well...but I would still love to learn the method.
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    ChrisKraftPhotoChrisKraftPhoto Registered Users Posts: 51 Big grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    Definitely HDR with some possible exposure and color adjustments too.

    Check out this link for info:

    http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?q=HDR

    While Photoshop CS2 & CS3 has HDR capabilties, there are better-working solutions out there. I have Photomatix and love it!
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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    PSDude wrote:
    Definitely HDR with some possible exposure and color adjustments too.

    Check out this link for info:

    http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?q=HDR

    While Photoshop CS2 & CS3 has HDR capabilties, there are better-working solutions out there. I have Photomatix and love it!

    So Photomatix is really that much of a tool huh? I have been considering it, but I have CS2 & CS3 and did not want to spend the money if I would not use it much, but if it will make the difference it might be worth the money spent.
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    ChrisKraftPhotoChrisKraftPhoto Registered Users Posts: 51 Big grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    A lot of people like it better but try the demo before you spend the coin.

    http://www.hdrsoft.com/

    If you do a lot of HDR; it's worth it IMHO :D
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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    PSDude wrote:
    A lot of people like it better but try the demo before you spend the coin.

    http://www.hdrsoft.com/

    If you do a lot of HDR; it's worth it IMHO :D

    Thanks...is the tone mapping plug-in worth the extra 20 bucks?
    Brandon Perron Photography
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    ChrisKraftPhotoChrisKraftPhoto Registered Users Posts: 51 Big grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    I think so. It's able to preserve the details and contrast in the shadow areas better and make the sky (for outdoor photos) look more realistic and true to the photo than PS can.

    EDIT: My bad; I got confused. Which version are you thinking of? The $99 pro version has tone mapping in the stand-alone version of Photomatix. The $20 plugin is for Photoshop.

    I did not get this plugin as I use Photomatix by itself separate from Photoshop.
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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    PSDude wrote:
    I think so. It's able to preserve the details and contrast in the shadow areas better and make the sky (for outdoor photos) look more realistic and true to the photo than PS can.

    Thanks for the input...looks like I will need to try this stuff out...

    I would still love someone to chime in if they have any idea how the photos above are accomplished....
    Brandon Perron Photography
    www.brandonperron.com
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    SerratorSerrator Registered Users Posts: 227 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    I would say the base images are all HDR/tone mapped images done with Photomatix. To get them to the more surreal end of the spectrum as these are may require a little more effort with Photomatix and PS.

    I know you should be able to replicate these with Photomatix and the right set of exposures to work with.
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    jbr13jbr13 Registered Users Posts: 251 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    BPerron wrote:
    Thanks for the input...looks like I will need to try this stuff out...

    I would still love someone to chime in if they have any idea how the photos above are accomplished....


    I agree, these look like HDR's out of Photomatix, with Tone Mapping applied. If you down load the demo you will learn quickly just by making a few and playing a little with the sliders in TOne Mapping.

    Have fun, its easy.

    Something to remember is that some images do make better HDR's than others. From images that barely change to some that can take on a cartoon type look. Depends what you want.
    Jason

    http://jbr.smugmug.com/

    "When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced... Live your life so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice"
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    SlivrSlivr Registered Users Posts: 1 Beginner grinner
    edited February 27, 2008
    Photoshop CS2 & CS3 can do HDR too
    I've seen several of those posted in HDR example image threads, so they're definitely HDR's. The tones and shadow detail give them away as well. From what I've read - most HDR shooters like Photomatix the best ... but your Adobe Photoshop CS2 and CS3 create HDR images as well and at least get you started playing with HDR without purchasing addt'l software until you decide you use the technique enough to warrant it.

    You start by shooting from 3 to 12 images at varying f-stops (IE: 1st at metered reading - 2nd a stop or 1.5 stops up - 3rd a stop or 1.5 stops down). Alternatively you can set your bracketing on a digital camera to do this for you. Open CS2 / CS3 and select: FILE / AUTOMATE / MERGE TO HDR from your top menu. Select the files and bingo.

    (The f-stops between images can be varied depending how many pictures you're merging. My brackets above are just an example.)
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    LiquidAirLiquidAir Registered Users Posts: 1,751 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    If you look at the tags on the first shot, You Don't Love Me Anymore, it is a 5 exposure bracket ("5xp") processed as an HDR. You can get effects like this in Photoshop with the "Merge to HDR" action and careful use of Unsharp Mask, but I'll bet these were tone mapped in Photomatrix.
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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    Thanks for everyone's replies...Well I decided to downlaod the free verisions and just go snap a few shots and see how it works...I really think it would be worth the investment!!!!!

    Here are the photos...They are not any good, just went outside my apartment and set up the camera and just pointed somewhere decent and the wind was blowing so the wispy trees are not super sharp...Again not a great shot, but just wanted to see how it looks...and I did not want to spend a tone of time in photoshop tweaking stuff either...

    HDR Image in Photomatix w/ Tonal mapping-
    FinalHDR.jpg
    Single image in with saturation bumped up
    ComparisionHDR.jpg

    To me the difference is surely clear...
    Brandon Perron Photography
    www.brandonperron.com
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    CookieSCookieS Registered Users Posts: 854 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    I also think there was a bit of paint with light going on with the HDR
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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 28, 2008
    I just noticed this was moved...I apologize for putting it in the wrong place.
    Brandon Perron Photography
    www.brandonperron.com
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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 28, 2008
    CookieS wrote:
    I also think there was a bit of paint with light going on with the HDR
    What do you mean exactly "paint with light"?
    Brandon Perron Photography
    www.brandonperron.com
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    ChrisKraftPhotoChrisKraftPhoto Registered Users Posts: 51 Big grins
    edited February 28, 2008
    It's a Photoshop technique for adjusting image tonality. It's done by adding a New Adjustment Layer > Levels. After making some levels adjustment, you can fine tune and 'paint' the area using a black brush to hide any adjustments and a white brush show the adjustments. Brush opacity, hardness and other settings will work this way.

    Hope that made sense...:D
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    zackerzacker Registered Users Posts: 451 Major grins
    edited February 28, 2008
    Another GREAT HDR tool is DYNAMIC PHOTO HDR its alot cheaper than Photomatix and even the free version is better (tiny water mark) and its can produce just as great results... i use it alot, i have it and Photomatix and actually like DPHDR a bit better.
    http://www.brokenfencephotography.com :D

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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 28, 2008
    PSDude wrote:
    It's a Photoshop technique for adjusting image tonality. It's done by adding a New Adjustment Layer > Levels. After making some levels adjustment, you can fine tune and 'paint' the area using a black brush to hide any adjustments and a white brush show the adjustments. Brush opacity, hardness and other settings will work this way.

    Hope that made sense...:D

    Yes it made sense thank you...I have an idea of how do that...just was not familiar with the name, Laughing.gif...Thanks.
    Brandon Perron Photography
    www.brandonperron.com
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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 28, 2008
    zacker wrote:
    Another GREAT HDR tool is DYNAMIC PHOTO HDR its alot cheaper than Photomatix and even the free version is better (tiny water mark) and its can produce just as great results... i use it alot, i have it and Photomatix and actually like DPHDR a bit better.

    That is quite a bit cheaper...maybe I should just pick up both...clap.gif

    Thanks for the tip!
    Brandon Perron Photography
    www.brandonperron.com
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    DeeDee Registered Users Posts: 2,981 Major grins
    edited February 28, 2008
    I just checked the photographer/photoshopper's page here:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpn/

    And he lists a bunch of tutorials, but you need to check his page before he adds more photos and the tutorial links get pushed to a different page.

    I'm not sure how tone mapping works, I'm slightly familar with HDR, but on the photo of the old house I see a lot of dodging and burning going on, especially in the sky.

    I like using HDR techniques to even out my dynamic range, but not to the extent that the photo looks "processed" as James' photos do.

    However, I'm going to check out those tutorials now, as I'm sure I'll learn something to help my photos taken in our gray summer fog light.

    James' photos are stunning and I can understand the attraction.
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    ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 23,834 moderator
    edited February 28, 2008
    Those sample images look like both HDR and Orton effect, both of which you can get from "DYNAMIC PHOTO HDR".
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    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 28, 2008
    Dee wrote:
    I just checked the photographer/photoshopper's page here:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpn/

    And he lists a bunch of tutorials, but you need to check his page before he adds more photos and the tutorial links get pushed to a different page.

    I'm not sure how tone mapping works, I'm slightly familar with HDR, but on the photo of the old house I see a lot of dodging and burning going on, especially in the sky.

    I like using HDR techniques to even out my dynamic range, but not to the extent that the photo looks "processed" as James' photos do.

    However, I'm going to check out those tutorials now, as I'm sure I'll learn something to help my photos taken in our gray summer fog light.

    James' photos are stunning and I can understand the attraction.

    Good call wings.gifclap I totally missed that...They are very quick and dirty, but I think they will help some...
    Brandon Perron Photography
    www.brandonperron.com
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    DeeDee Registered Users Posts: 2,981 Major grins
    edited February 29, 2008
    BPerron wrote:
    Good call wings.gifclap I totally missed that...They are very quick and dirty, but I think they will help some...

    I saved them out as PDFs to review later. So thanks to you I got to see some nice photos, and get some tutorials too!:D
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    BPerronBPerron Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited February 29, 2008
    Dee wrote:
    I saved them out as PDFs to review later. So thanks to you I got to see some nice photos, and get some tutorials too!:D

    I do what I can...although could you possibly email them to me as the PDF's? So i can review at a later date...PM me if you might be able to do this... Thanks.
    Brandon Perron Photography
    www.brandonperron.com
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    cbcortezcbcortez Registered Users Posts: 11 Big grins
    edited May 22, 2008
    me too
    Dee wrote:
    I saved them out as PDFs to review later. So thanks to you I got to see some nice photos, and get some tutorials too!:D

    hi dee, can you also give me a copy of the PDFs?

    if you can email them to me too ill be thankful hehe.
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    SenecaSeneca Registered Users Posts: 1,661 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    Looks like some Lucia software to me.
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