Well, what to do now?

Ann McRae · September 23, 2008

I own a 20d (and may someday own a 40d or 50d) and a 1DMkIIN. I am starting to lust for the 5dMkII.

I own:
24mmTSE - new to me and yet unproven
17-85mmIS that needs repair - I loved this lens!
24-105mmL - I miss the 17mm of the 17-85
17-40mm - I just bought this because I miss the 17mm
70-200mmf2.8 - rarely used since I got the 300
300 mm f4 - I love this lens
50mmf1.4 - I love this one to, and am trying to find more reason to use it
85mmf1.8 - I love this, bought it for indoor soccer which I no longer shoot
135mmf2 - I love this more!! Really love it, use it for portraits, indoor sports, any excuse to use it!

So clearly I have too much glass and need to sell some. I've just led several coworkers to the decision to buy Canon, so have an open audience for the sales!

What goes? Right now, I am thinking the 24-105 and the 85mm for starters.

ann

darkdragon · September 23, 2008

You want opinions, right?

fix the 17-85
sell the 17-40 and 24-105
sell the 85 1.8
sell the 20D

aktse · September 23, 2008

Ann McRae wrote:

I own a 20d (and may someday own a 40d or 50d) and a 1DMkIIN. I am starting to lust for the 5dMkII.

I own:
24mmTSE - new to me and yet unproven
17-85mmIS that needs repair - I loved this lens!
24-105mmL - I miss the 17mm of the 17-85
17-40mm - I just bought this because I miss the 17mm
70-200mmf2.8 - rarely used since I got the 300
300 mm f4 - I love this lens
50mmf1.4 - I love this one to, and am trying to find more reason to use it
85mmf1.8 - I love this, bought it for indoor soccer which I no longer shoot
135mmf2 - I love this more!! Really love it, use it for portraits, indoor sports, any excuse to use it!

So clearly I have too much glass and need to sell some. I've just led several coworkers to the decision to buy Canon, so have an open audience for the sales!

What goes? Right now, I am thinking the 24-105 and the 85mm for starters.

ann

No matter what people tell me about the 17-85mm and how I would love the 24-105 -- I can't give it up for the same reason.

I would get rid of the 24-105 and the 85mm.

jogle · September 23, 2008

It sounds like you are a prime fiend, that's a good thing! I'd go the whole hog and sell all your zooms.

Then pick up:

- Either a Canon 14mm or the 15mm fisheye
- The absolutely awesome 35mm f1.4

ziggy53 · September 23, 2008

Ann,

Your current system was built around tasks and goals you seem to no longer have.

What is it you want to do?

What is it that brings you photographic joy?

cmason · September 23, 2008

Well Ann if you ever think you will act on that 5D lust, the 17-85 wont be of much use...maybe lose it and the 85? you got alot of overlap in that area

Ann McRae · September 23, 2008

And the 17 - 85 isn't of use on the 1d either..(well, in its current state it is actually useless

).... hence the 17 - 40 purchase for the 1d...

Ziggy:

I still shoot lots of outdoor sports, the 300 is great for that.

And I get photographic joy from any kind of shooting. I am trying to push myself now, to try different things outside my comfort zone. That would be portraiture and street photography.

April, FWIW, I really prefer the 17 - 85 to the 24 - 105. I really miss the wide end of the 17 - 85, don't really find a lot of value in the long end of the 24-105 plus fight significant lens flare with the 24-105.

hmmmmmm

ziggy53 · September 23, 2008

Ann,

The 20D would make a pretty good street camera with the addition of the EF-S 17-55mm, f2.8 IS USM. Not too heavy and tremendously flexible. Covers nearly twice normal FOV to moderate tele and the IS is the real deal. It will translate and transition easily to the 40D or 50D.

Forget/abandon the 17-85mm.

Sell the 50mm, f1.4 USM and the 24-105mm, f4L USM.

Keep the 85mm, f1.8 and 135mm, f2. They will work now on the 1D MKIIN for portraiture and later as well when you commit to full-frame. They would also work on the 20D for some more discrete distances from subjects.

The 70-200mm, f2.8L is your call. I like mine for event stuff when I can't get too close to the subjects. It can yield great intimacy at a good distance.

The 300mm, f4 ... if I had one, there is no way I would give it up.

LiquidAir · September 23, 2008

If it were me, I'd get rid of the 20D, 17-85 and 70-200/2.8 and pick up a 5D2. I have the 85/1.8 and 135/2 for my 5D and I never wish for a 70-200.

LiquidAir · September 23, 2008

Ann McRae wrote:

April, FWIW, I really prefer the 17 - 85 to the 24 - 105. I really miss the wide end of the 17 - 85, don't really find a lot of value in the long end of the 24-105 plus fight significant lens flare with the 24-105.

On a 5D, 24mm is slightly wider than 17mm on the 20D.

Ann McRae · September 24, 2008

LiquidAir wrote:

On a 5D, 24mm is slightly wider than 17mm on the 20D.

I am really not planning a 5d purchase just yet, so only thinking about what works on the current two bodies!

ann

Nikolai · September 24, 2008

Since you're getting into portraits, too, I'd keep 70-200/2.8 for sure, it's Da Lens for portraiture...

GSPeP · September 24, 2008

You don't seem to be happy about the 24-105, but I have it as the standard lens on my 5D. It's a perfect combination. 24 mm. is wide enough for me on the FF of the 5D.
(I even bought a second for my 1D mkIII, on which it also performs good)

I suppose (and hope) it will be great on a 5DII also.

You have an interesting collection of glass. Very difficult to decide

D

Ann McRae · September 24, 2008

GSPeP wrote:

You don't seem to be happy about the 24-105, but I have it as the standard lens on my 5D. It's a perfect combination. 24 mm. is wide enough for me on the FF of the 5D.
(I even bought a second for my 1D mkIII, on which it also performs good)

I suppose (and hope) it will be great on a 5DII also.

You have an interesting collection of glass. Very difficult to decide D

Thanks, Peter. I don't know why the 24-105 didn't capture my heart like the 17-85 did?

I don't have a 5D so use it on a 1.3 or 1.6 crop camera.

And I have too much glass, so I have to decide!
Something has to go.

ann

Moogle Pepper · September 24, 2008

Well, I can help you with this dilemma of lenses. Just send them to me and you should be alright!

geospatial_junkie · September 24, 2008

I'm a nikon shooter, but so far have found my 70-200 2.8 indespensible for all types of landscape work (especially when needing to compress the shot). If canon's equivalent is just as good, I wouldn't give it up for anything.

Not trying to hijack your thread, however, examples of how the 70-200 has proved useful: http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=106721

LiquidAir · September 24, 2008

Ann McRae wrote:

I am really not planning a 5d purchase just yet, so only thinking about what works on the current two bodies!

ann

Ah. That's another matter then. The 24-105 is great on the 5D, but on the 20D, I think the 17-85 will be an all around more useful lens.

Nikolai · September 24, 2008

LiquidAir wrote:

...on the 20D, I think the 17-85 will be an all around more useful lens.

17-55/2.8 IS

kini62 · September 24, 2008

Ann McRae wrote:

I own a 20d (and may someday own a 40d or 50d) and a 1DMkIIN. I am starting to lust for the 5dMkII.

I own:
24mmTSE - new to me and yet unproven
17-85mmIS that needs repair - I loved this lens!
24-105mmL - I miss the 17mm of the 17-85
17-40mm - I just bought this because I miss the 17mm
70-200mmf2.8 - rarely used since I got the 300
300 mm f4 - I love this lens
50mmf1.4 - I love this one to, and am trying to find more reason to use it
85mmf1.8 - I love this, bought it for indoor soccer which I no longer shoot
135mmf2 - I love this more!! Really love it, use it for portraits, indoor sports, any excuse to use it!

So clearly I have too much glass and need to sell some. I've just led several coworkers to the decision to buy Canon, so have an open audience for the sales!

What goes? Right now, I am thinking the 24-105 and the 85mm for starters.

ann

Hmmmm, what a dilemma- too many lenses! Wish I had that problem.

My opinion for what it's worth is:

Sell the 20D, 17-85, and either the 70-200 or 300 which ever one you can do without and maybe the 17-40 if you feel 24 on FF is going to be wide enough.

The 24-105 on the 5DII will be great, the primes of course will be fantastic on FF, and the 300 will now be the same as 200 was on your now sold 20D.

Or just keep everything and still get the 5DII

Good luck, it's going to be a tough decision.

Gene

Ann McRae · November 21, 2008

Well, I still haven't decided on anything!

Was in a camera shop today - talking about what they will offer in their rental pool (300f2.8, 400f4, 5dMkII, etc) and drooling.

The manager assured me he could sell my 1dMkIIN in a second if I decided to sell (apparently our local paper chooses to buy these rather than upgrade).

Anyway, I seriously think it will be the 24-105 to be first to go.

My kids play Diablo, and there is a line in the game:
"I am overburdened"

Thats how I feel.

Ann McRae wrote:

I own a 20d (and may someday own a 40d or 50d) and a 1DMkIIN. I am starting to lust for the 5dMkII.

I own:
24mmTSE - new to me and yet unproven
17-85mmIS that needs repair - I loved this lens!
24-105mmL - I miss the 17mm of the 17-85
17-40mm - I just bought this because I miss the 17mm
70-200mmf2.8 - rarely used since I got the 300
300 mm f4 - I love this lens
50mmf1.4 - I love this one to, and am trying to find more reason to use it
85mmf1.8 - I love this, bought it for indoor soccer which I no longer shoot
135mmf2 - I love this more!! Really love it, use it for portraits, indoor sports, any excuse to use it!

So clearly I have too much glass and need to sell some. I've just led several coworkers to the decision to buy Canon, so have an open audience for the sales!

What goes? Right now, I am thinking the 24-105 and the 85mm for starters.

ann

pyry · November 21, 2008

Ann McRae wrote:

I own a 20d (and may someday own a 40d or 50d) and a 1DMkIIN. I am starting to lust for the 5dMkII.

You're fine on that side of the lens mount, for upgrades sell both and go for a 40D or 50D - unless you need the speed or two bodies to back each other up. Lenses..

I'd do:
24mmTSE - I want one too

17-85mmIS that needs repair - mothball fleet (what gave on it btw? repair and sell?)
24-105mmL - sell, too narrow on the 20D
17-40mm - consider replacing with the 17-55/2.8, depending on if you need it to fit the 1D
70-200mmf2.8 - keep
300 mm f4 - keep
50mmf1.4 - Replace with Sigma's 30/1.4, a true normal for the 20D, it might actually produce usable results on the 1D 1.3x format as well - otherwise go for a 28/1.8
85mmf1.8 - keep, it'll find use for itself
135mmf2 - definitely keep

davev · November 23, 2008

Ann McRae wrote:

Well, I still haven't decided on anything!

Was in a camera shop today - talking about what they will offer in their rental pool (300f2.8, 400f4, 5dMkII, etc) and drooling.

The manager assured me he could sell my 1dMkIIN in a second if I decided to sell (apparently our local paper chooses to buy these rather than upgrade).

Anyway, I seriously think it will be the 24-105 to be first to go.

My kids play Diablo, and there is a line in the game:
"I am overburdened"

Thats how I feel.

If you're going for the 5D II, I think I'd keep the 24-105, and here are my reasons.
If you keep the 20D and sell the 1DMKIIN, the wider camera would be the 5DMKII.
So you'd have the 17-40 and the 24-105 for your walk around lenses.
Because of the crop factor, the 300 goes onto the 20D. Of course with the 5DMKII having 21 MP, the 300
may also be better on it. Keep the 50 f1.4 for those low light times. Of course with the new 5dMKII,
all of your lenses are better for low light because of the better high ISO performance.

So, I'd say get rid of the 17-85, the 85 f1.8.
The 1DMKIIN I guess must go also, but really, I'd sell the 20D too.
If at some point you'd need a backup, get whatever Rebel is out at the time. It will be a better camera
than the 20D is.

What to do with the T&S, the 70-200, and the 135.
You love the 135, then don't sell it. If you do, you'll just buy it back again.
You may end up using the 70-200 more with the full frame camera. If not, after a couple of months
with the 5DMKII, then sell it.
The T&S, I know nothing about these lenses other than they look like they are the thing to have if
you like to make multiple shot panos. I don't do that, and with a full frame camera, a 17-40 lens,
and 21 MPs, will you need to do multiple shot panos? I wouldn't, but I also don't sell my shots.

Of course all this is coming from a guy with 12 lenses and 4 camera bodies, and 2 P&S's, what the hell do I know.

Ann McRae · November 23, 2008

Well, I should say that I do not see myself giving up the 1dMkIIN unless it is to buy the MkIII or rumored MkIV.
The 20d is of little value and maybe could get modded for IR.

The 5DII will not be a sports camera, as far as I can tell.

one thing I have thought about:
1dMkIIN plus 24 - 105 = idMkIII used.

20DNoob · November 24, 2008

If it was my decision I'd dump the 17-40,85,50(I also have one that never gets used)/24-105. Fix the 17-85 cause it seems you really enjoy it and it covers the 40-70mm gap so long as you see yourself keeping a XXD body.

Ann McRae wrote:

Well, I still haven't decided on anything!

Was in a camera shop today - talking about what they will offer in their rental pool (300f2.8, 400f4, 5dMkII, etc) and drooling.

The manager assured me he could sell my 1dMkIIN in a second if I decided to sell (apparently our local paper chooses to buy these rather than upgrade).

Anyway, I seriously think it will be the 24-105 to be first to go.

My kids play Diablo, and there is a line in the game:
"I am overburdened"

Thats how I feel.

Unless you want to be asking this again down the road trying to come up with $3,800 steer clear of the 300 2.8. It's a wicked bit of glass and it'll never stop calling to you.

Ann McRae · November 24, 2008

20DNoob wrote:

Unless you want to be asking this again down the road trying to come up with $3,800 steer clear of the 300 2.8. It's a wicked bit of glass and it'll never stop calling to you.

harumph! $5500 cdn for that baby! It would be a loooong time saving for that one!

Well, what to do now?

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