This or This?? ginger 73

ginger_55 · Sep-17-2006, 07:17 PM

Frame or no frame?????

I prefer the frame, but then I always have, so I need a disinterested party's ideas, please..........

I cleaned up the dock. I hope the people there will appreciate it. Birds will probably just mess it up again, smile,

ginger (good luck all)

Compromise here????? smile, mornin' g

gus · Sep-17-2006, 07:21 PM

I like frames so i will say frame but i tell you what G ...thats a great shot

ginger_55 · Sep-17-2006, 07:24 PM

thanks, Gus!

rutt · Sep-17-2006, 07:30 PM

Ginger, why do I keep having to tell you this? DON'T FRAME YOUR BEAUTIFUL SHOTS. All it does is distract from your great images. It adds nothing. Be confident of your shots. Let them sell themselves. This particular one will probably win this contest. Why turn it into a poster and add those redundant words and make the image smaller.

SloYerRoll · Sep-17-2006, 07:34 PM

Ginger, regardless of the frame or no frame dabate.
It's a great shot.

Good luck on the competition. I see you already posted.

-Jon

P.S. Your frames are pretty rad.

mushy · Sep-17-2006, 07:34 PM

I've missed your framed photo's Ginger

Beautiful photo by the way

Joan · Sep-17-2006, 07:35 PM

When I looked at the shot with the frame, it drew my attention away from the beautiful photography -- I looked at the words, then paid attention to the large amount of white space. What I really wanted to savor was your excellent photo, Ginger. So, IMHO, no frame.

queequeg · Sep-17-2006, 07:41 PM

Your frame is quite beautiful -- but the shot is even more so. My two cents is no frame. Any time I can see more detail in a photo only enhances it.

judyfuess · Sep-17-2006, 08:01 PM

Ginger,

I like both, framed and not framed - great shot!. As some people said, the frame draws attention to the frame first and then the photo. Maybe this could be remedied by using a smaller frame - just a thought.

-judy

***ian408*** · Sep-17-2006, 08:39 PM

I'm partial to the frame. Very nice shot.

Flyinggina · Sep-17-2006, 11:34 PM

I'm with Rutt on this one. I love the photo taking up most of my screen. The texture of the posts - the details on the birds - the overall feel of the beautifully composed shot are just wonderful. I prefer no distractions. That said, I think the photo will do just as well in the challenge either way. It is a strong entry.

Did I mention that I really love this photograph?

Virginia

Green Fleurdelis · Sep-18-2006, 04:12 PM

1) No frame. (but your compromise submission with the minimal frame is OK)
2) Great photo.

I can see some of the spots where you cleaned up the pier. How about posting the original here so we can see how messy the birds really were?

Did I remember to say "great photo"?

ginger_55 · Sep-18-2006, 04:59 PM

Here is the dirty dock, I posted it that way originally. I didn't work it up to enter and never gave the dock a thought.
I was tired, in a hurry, and had never cleaned a dirty dock before. It was difficult finding clean areas to use, smile.
I don't like, for myself, dirty beaches, so it only stands to reason that I would prefer a clean dock hanging in my house, smile again.
thanks for the nice words!

KurtPreston · Sep-18-2006, 05:53 PM

Without the frame, your entry is a wonderful meal prepared by a great chef. With the frame, it is a gourmet meal with a fine wine and wonderful diner companions. The large white frame did not distract me at all and enhanced my enjoyment of the photo.

ginger_55 · Sep-18-2006, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtPreston

Without the frame, your entry is a wonderful meal prepared by a great chef. With the frame, it is a gourmet meal with a fine wine and wonderful diner companions. The large white frame did not distract me at all and enhanced my enjoyment of the photo.

Thank you, Kurt! This frame issue is interesting.

People do not seem to be neutral.

I wonder if it has to do with the monitor?

I like your analogies, smile,

ginger

SciurusNiger · Sep-19-2006, 02:01 AM

Framed is nice, in a tourist shop. But without it, the photo has much greater impact on one's screen.

And it is a truly outstanding shot. With or without a clean dock!

PJ.

cmason · Sep-19-2006, 03:58 AM

Usually I do not care for frames. In this case, I think unframed it is a great photo, and agree with Rutt, as the frame can take a bit away from the photo.

However, framed (the second one), it takes on a new purpose as art. Now it is more than a photo, and I think that is a good thing.

Nice job,either way

jedgar8585 · Sep-19-2006, 11:55 AM

My vote is for no frames. I think the photo is beautiful without it.

ginger_55 · Sep-19-2006, 12:01 PM

Just a thought: in the real world people are going to use some method to get the photo to stick on the wall, smile.

It would be interesting to get perspectives on correct framing of photos.

Mattes, yes, no, simple black frame, on canvas........ornate frame?

Fitting the photo with the frame into surroundings, etc.

Obviously, I know nothing on the subject.

But it would be interesting to hear what others think/are doing in this area with their photos.

Also, changes in ideas since.............whenever one last thought about this.

ginger

Prezwoodz · Sep-19-2006, 06:52 PM

I really like this shot! :) I think it works great for the challenge too.

As far as the border goes I think the large white border is too overpowering over the image and the other border is a little off too. I do like borders though! I think maybe if you just had the small white border...I dunno. But the shot is awesome!

Sep-17-2006, 07:17 PM	#1
ginger_55 Crazy Creek Babe Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 8,406	This or This?? ginger 73 Frame or no frame????? I prefer the frame, but then I always have, so I need a disinterested party's ideas, please.......... I cleaned up the dock. I hope the people there will appreciate it. Birds will probably just mess it up again, smile, ginger (good luck all) Compromise here????? smile, mornin' g Last edited by ginger_55; Sep-18-2006 at 04:10 AM.

Sep-17-2006, 07:30 PM	#4
rutt Cave canem! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 6,395	Ginger, why do I keep having to tell you this? DON'T FRAME YOUR BEAUTIFUL SHOTS. All it does is distract from your great images. It adds nothing. Be confident of your shots. Let them sell themselves. This particular one will probably win this contest. Why turn it into a poster and add those redundant words and make the image smaller. __________________ If not now, when?

Sep-17-2006, 07:34 PM	#5
SloYerRoll Major grins Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,771	Ginger, regardless of the frame or no frame dabate. It's a great shot. Good luck on the competition. I see you already posted. -Jon P.S. Your frames are pretty rad. __________________

Sep-17-2006, 07:34 PM	#6
mushy snaphappy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Western Australia Posts: 572	I've missed your framed photo's Ginger Beautiful photo by the way __________________ Canon 40D 100-400 L IS USM 17-85 IS USM 10-22mm 50mm 1.8 18-55 Kit Lens Tamron 2x TeleConv

Sep-17-2006, 07:35 PM	#7
Joan Big grins Join Date: May 2006 Location: Goleta, California Posts: 62	When I looked at the shot with the frame, it drew my attention away from the beautiful photography -- I looked at the words, then paid attention to the large amount of white space. What I really wanted to savor was your excellent photo, Ginger. So, IMHO, no frame. __________________ ~ Joan Photo gallery: http://jbarnett.smugmug.com

Sep-17-2006, 07:21 PM	#2
gus Major grins Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: the wasteland Posts: 16,204	I like frames so i will say frame but i tell you what G ...thats a great shot

Sep-17-2006, 07:24 PM	#3
ginger_55 Crazy Creek Babe Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 8,406	thanks, Gus!

Sep-17-2006, 07:41 PM	#8
queequeg lucky & grateful Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 62	Your frame is quite beautiful -- but the shot is even more so. My two cents is no frame. Any time I can see more detail in a photo only enhances it. __________________ Allison Frost, Photographer? Wild Westhampton

Sep-17-2006, 08:01 PM	#9
judyfuess Major grins Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 259	Ginger, I like both, framed and not framed - great shot!. As some people said, the frame draws attention to the frame first and then the photo. Maybe this could be remedied by using a smaller frame - just a thought. -judy

Sep-17-2006, 08:39 PM	#10
*ian408* More wag. Less Bark. Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 14,629	I'm partial to the frame. Very nice shot. __________________ Moderator Journeys/Sports/Big Picture :: Need some help with dgrin?

Sep-17-2006, 11:34 PM	#11
Flyinggina To see and not be seen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: On a voyage to somwhere Posts: 2,407	I'm with Rutt on this one. I love the photo taking up most of my screen. The texture of the posts - the details on the birds - the overall feel of the beautifully composed shot are just wonderful. I prefer no distractions. That said, I think the photo will do just as well in the challenge either way. It is a strong entry. Did I mention that I really love this photograph? Virginia __________________ _______________________________________________ "A photograph is a secret about a secret. The more it tells you, the less you know." Diane Arbus Email

Sep-18-2006, 04:12 PM	#12
Green Fleurdelis Major grins Join Date: May 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 130	1) No frame. (but your compromise submission with the minimal frame is OK) 2) Great photo. I can see some of the spots where you cleaned up the pier. How about posting the original here so we can see how messy the birds really were? Did I remember to say "great photo"? __________________ Gary; SmugMug site => The Bakker Chautauqua "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." (Einstein)

Sep-18-2006, 04:59 PM	#13
ginger_55 Crazy Creek Babe Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 8,406	Here is the dirty dock, I posted it that way originally. I didn't work it up to enter and never gave the dock a thought. I was tired, in a hurry, and had never cleaned a dirty dock before. It was difficult finding clean areas to use, smile. I don't like, for myself, dirty beaches, so it only stands to reason that I would prefer a clean dock hanging in my house, smile again. thanks for the nice words!

Sep-18-2006, 05:53 PM	#14
KurtPreston Major grins Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 285	Without the frame, your entry is a wonderful meal prepared by a great chef. With the frame, it is a gourmet meal with a fine wine and wonderful diner companions. The large white frame did not distract me at all and enhanced my enjoyment of the photo.

Sep-19-2006, 02:01 AM	#16
SciurusNiger Runs with squirrels.... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 154	Framed is nice, in a tourist shop. But without it, the photo has much greater impact on one's screen. And it is a truly outstanding shot. With or without a clean dock! PJ. __________________ Garnered Images Photography "Where beauty moves and wit delights and signs of kindness bind me; there, oh there, whe'er I go I leave my heart behind me." (Thomas Ford, 1607)

Sep-19-2006, 03:58 AM	#17
cmason Old dog, new tricks Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,059	Usually I do not care for frames. In this case, I think unframed it is a great photo, and agree with Rutt, as the frame can take a bit away from the photo. However, framed (the second one), it takes on a new purpose as art. Now it is more than a photo, and I think that is a good thing. Nice job,either way __________________ Photo Blog Gear: Canon 40D \| Canon 70-200 f/4 L \| Canon 50 f1.8 \| Sigma 10-20 EX HSM \| Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD LMNOPQRS \|

Sep-19-2006, 11:55 AM	#18
jedgar8585 Big grins Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 22	My vote is for no frames. I think the photo is beautiful without it.

Sep-19-2006, 12:01 PM	#19
ginger_55 Crazy Creek Babe Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 8,406	Just a thought: in the real world people are going to use some method to get the photo to stick on the wall, smile. It would be interesting to get perspectives on correct framing of photos. Mattes, yes, no, simple black frame, on canvas........ornate frame? Fitting the photo with the frame into surroundings, etc. Obviously, I know nothing on the subject. But it would be interesting to hear what others think/are doing in this area with their photos. Also, changes in ideas since.............whenever one last thought about this. ginger

Sep-19-2006, 06:52 PM	#20
Prezwoodz Alaska Grinnin Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Anchorage,Alaska Posts: 989	I really like this shot! :) I think it works great for the challenge too. As far as the border goes I think the large white border is too overpowering over the image and the other border is a little off too. I do like borders though! I think maybe if you just had the small white border...I dunno. But the shot is awesome! __________________ My Pictures can be seen at http://prezwoodz.smugmug.com I Live at http://www.alaskamountainforum.com

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