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Thoughts on Bibble Raw Converter?

kpoorekpoore Registered Users Posts: 15 Big grins
edited October 28, 2008 in Finishing School
Oops! I just posted this in the Digital Gear forum ... Sorry ... new here.

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I am playing around with the trial right now and was wondering what other users of this program think.

Thanks everyone for your time,
Karen in Austin
www.kpoore.smugmug.com
kpoore2001@yahoo.com
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    RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,937 moderator
    edited August 8, 2008
    kpoore wrote:
    Oops! I just posted this in the Digital Gear forum ... Sorry ... new here.

    <table class="tborder" id="post893354" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td class="alt1" id="td_post_893354">Hi,
    I am playing around with the trial right now and was wondering what other users of this program think.

    Thanks everyone for your time,
    Karen in Austin
    www.kpoore.smugmug.com
    kpoore2001@yahoo.com
    <!-- / message --></td></tr><tr><td class="alt2">user_online.gif </td><td class="alt1" align="right"><!-- controls --></td></tr></tbody></table>

    Not to worry...I deleted the duplicate thread in the Gear forum. This is the right forum for the question.

    Oh, and welcome to Dgrin. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/wave.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
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    MarkRMarkR Registered Users Posts: 2,099 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2008
    Bibble is a highly regarded Raw converter which gives great results and has some awesome plugins available.

    The UI can be kind of clunky, and some now-standard features, such as multiple undoes and versioning, are absent.

    The good news is that Bibblelabs has announced that v5 will be available by the end of the year. New purchasers of 4 will get a free upgrade to 5.
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    arodneyarodney Registered Users Posts: 2,005 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2008
    Bibble has been around longer than most and is a very impressive product. I agree about the current UI (its nothing to write home about). Hopefully the next version will get some eye candy. Better to have great functionary first, which Bibble has. Unlike nearly all other Raw converters I'm aware of, the plug-in's mentioned actually work WITHIN the Raw processing pipeline. That's what we really need and want. If you look at say Aperture, its plug-in processing is happening AFTER rendering so there isn't much difference there compared to opening the image in Photoshop and running filters. Bibble does this at the Raw stage. It gets a big thumbs up for that approach.
    Andrew Rodney
    Author "Color Management for Photographers"
    http://www.digitaldog.net/
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    kpoorekpoore Registered Users Posts: 15 Big grins
    edited August 9, 2008
    Thoughts on Bibble Raw Converter?
    Thanks you guys.
    I was not expecting a reply from Andy and I really appreciate your time and expertise.
    I have printed out most of the and started reading it yesterday and I'am impressed and think it may be worth taking the time to learn. They are located in Austin where I live too!
    Best,
    Karen
    arodney wrote:
    Bibble has been around longer than most and is a very impressive product. I agree about the current UI (its nothing to write home about). Hopefully the next version will get some eye candy. Better to have great functionary first, which Bibble has. Unlike nearly all other Raw converters I'm aware of, the plug-in's mentioned actually work WITHIN the Raw processing pipeline. That's what we really need and want. If you look at say Aperture, its plug-in processing is happening AFTER rendering so there isn't much difference there compared to opening the image in Photoshop and running filters. Bibble does this at the Raw stage. It gets a big thumbs up for that approach.
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    kpoorekpoore Registered Users Posts: 15 Big grins
    edited August 9, 2008
    Thoughts on Bibble Raw Converter?
    Oops! Printed out most of the instructions!
    arodney wrote:
    Bibble has been around longer than most and is a very impressive product. I agree about the current UI (its nothing to write home about). Hopefully the next version will get some eye candy. Better to have great functionary first, which Bibble has. Unlike nearly all other Raw converters I'm aware of, the plug-in's mentioned actually work WITHIN the Raw processing pipeline. That's what we really need and want. If you look at say Aperture, its plug-in processing is happening AFTER rendering so there isn't much difference there compared to opening the image in Photoshop and running filters. Bibble does this at the Raw stage. It gets a big thumbs up for that approach.
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    MarkRMarkR Registered Users Posts: 2,099 Major grins
    edited August 10, 2008
    You should also check out the Bibble forums at support.bibblelabs.com. The developers post pretty frequently there and are very responsive to questions.
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    arodneyarodney Registered Users Posts: 2,005 Major grins
    edited August 11, 2008
    You can see Bibble in action at the Raw Iron Chef session at Photo Plus Expo in late October:

    http://www.photoplusexpo.com/ppe/5300/conference/conference_list.jsp
    Andrew Rodney
    Author "Color Management for Photographers"
    http://www.digitaldog.net/
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    cmasoncmason Registered Users Posts: 2,506 Major grins
    edited August 11, 2008
    Nearly bought Bibble lite. Great software, and loved the Noise Ninja that is included. But Lightroom was a better UI, much better DAM, and far better workflow.
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    dangindangin Registered Users Posts: 458 Major grins
    edited August 12, 2008
    i bought bibble and used it for a short amount of time before i discovered lightroom. bibble is good as a raw converter and that's about it, IMO. lightroom has a superior workflow, an easier to use GUI, and is much faster.

    i'm interested to see how bibble v5 seeing that it's a free upgrade for current users.
    - Dan

    - my photography: www.dangin.com
    - my blog: www.dangin.com/blog
    - follow me on twitter: @danginphoto
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    lucluc Registered Users Posts: 21 Big grins
    edited August 12, 2008
    Bibble 4 is a great RAW converter, and that is all it ever was supposed to be.
    The UI is anything but fancy but after a while one does discover its advantages - and then it is anything but slow. I believe some people are overly impressed by sleek appearances. I certainly have tried LR1 (got it for free as a RawShooter owner) but it never appeared easier to use or more intuitive to me than bibble.

    Anyhow, it seems bibble 5 will have a fancier look, DAM features - while not forcing you to use its database, regional editing (likely a bit similar to Lightzone), versions, and a choice of plugins, that like the ones for version 4, are integrated into the RAW conversion pipeline. The hints of the authors seem to indicated superior performance on multi-core processors - for what its worth.
    The current price includes an upgrade to version 5. At $ 130 it could be a real bargain.
    dangin wrote:
    i bought bibble and used it for a short amount of time before i discovered lightroom. bibble is good as a raw converter and that's about it, IMO. lightroom has a superior workflow, an easier to use GUI, and is much faster.

    i'm interested to see how bibble v5 seeing that it's a free upgrade for current users.
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    kpoorekpoore Registered Users Posts: 15 Big grins
    edited August 13, 2008
    Thoughts on Bibble Raw Converter?
    So you guys and gals,

    In order to use Lightroom do you need PS CS3?

    I was looking at Bibble because beside being a good program it has profiles for both my cameras. I am using CS2 and it's raw converter covers one but not my other camera and I do not wanted to upgrade right now. I tried downloading Adobe dng converter, but it did not work. I like the idea of an independant converter away from image processing software.

    I do not have a problem with the Bibble UI, but again I am coming from the DOS years! thumb.gif

    Thanks for your time,
    Karen in Austin, Texas
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    kpoorekpoore Registered Users Posts: 15 Big grins
    edited August 13, 2008
    Richard and your gallery!
    Hi,
    I finally got a chance to look at your galleries and I love the way you see!

    Best,
    Karen in Austin, Texas
    Richard wrote:
    Not to worry...I deleted the duplicate thread in the Gear forum. This is the right forum for the question.

    Oh, and welcome to Dgrin. wave.gif
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    cmasoncmason Registered Users Posts: 2,506 Major grins
    edited August 13, 2008
    kpoore wrote:
    So you guys and gals,

    In order to use Lightroom do you need PS CS3?
    No, Lightroom is standalone, you do not need CS3 at all. In fact, while I have CS3, I only use it rarely, maybe on 2% of images now.

    there is a free trail on Adobe's website, that is really the best thing to do: try it yourself.
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    lucluc Registered Users Posts: 21 Big grins
    edited October 28, 2008
    speed
    A turbo-speed video of the coming bibble 5.
    http://vidego.multicastmedia.com/player.php?v=n283qnaf
    It it is going to be as good as advertised?
    (Some beta testers have been running it on a netbook.)
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    arodneyarodney Registered Users Posts: 2,005 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2008
    luc wrote:
    A turbo-speed video of the coming bibble 5.
    http://vidego.multicastmedia.com/player.php?v=n283qnaf
    It it is going to be as good as advertised?
    (Some beta testers have been running it on a netbook.)

    Got to see Bibble 5 in action at PPE (the show I moderated called Iron Raw Chef where Eric of the company was on my panel). Looks very, very good and useful. I'm a Lightroom guy but intend to upgrade my copy of V5 when it ships. And yes, its very, very fast.
    Andrew Rodney
    Author "Color Management for Photographers"
    http://www.digitaldog.net/
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    lucluc Registered Users Posts: 21 Big grins
    edited October 28, 2008
    Hello Andrew,
    do you know of any report of the Iron Raw Chef event that is or might become published anywhere?
    thanks in advance !

    arodney wrote:
    Got to see Bibble 5 in action at PPE (the show I moderated called Iron Raw Chef where Eric of the company was on my panel). Looks very, very good and useful. I'm a Lightroom guy but intend to upgrade my copy of V5 when it ships. And yes, its very, very fast.
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    arodneyarodney Registered Users Posts: 2,005 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2008
    luc wrote:
    Hello Andrew,
    do you know of any report of the Iron Raw Chef event that is or might become published anywhere?
    thanks in advance !

    Nope, nothing that will be published.
    Andrew Rodney
    Author "Color Management for Photographers"
    http://www.digitaldog.net/
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