Is this the curves adjustment layer and mask technique?
It looks great by the way, and I meant to comment on the thread of her photos yesterday. You really did a great job with the whole set.
For others, the technique is explained in this article by Debbie Grossman that I found in Popular Photography. I am not a fan of the method in the article for whitening teeth, and have my own method for skin softening/smoothing, but the eye tutorial is a real winner.
It is easy to overdo and make the eyes look unatural. As with most PP tricks a little can go a long way. Looks like you nailed it here.
If you can post an original side by side, we might see a difference.
Also, bigger shot would show more details, if you will.
The difference side by side would be subtle unless viewed at 50% or so...and you may not see the difference. The method whitens the whites, and ups the contrast on the iris. Makes the eyes sharper without actually sharpening them. It's the best method I have run across to date.
Tried an eye sharpening technique that Jeff explained in another thread on Stephanie's eyes, lips and beads. Any critique on the results?
Looks as if I lost the revised photo in it's original size so I can't make the post bigger but here is the unrevised version in approximately the same size. The difference in the beads I think is the most visible at this size.
The contrast in the eyes is noticable at this resolution.
How did the eye treatment effect the beads....I usually mask so that the treatment only effects the eyes....then only do a global high pass sharpening?
The contrast in the eyes is noticable at this resolution.
How did the eye treatment effect the beads....I usually mask so that the treatment only effects the eyes....then only do a global high pass sharpening?
I masked them off separately and applied the same treatment as to the eyes. Did the same with the lips. All masked separately so I could control each.
Yes, using quick mask, high pass sharpen, and curves.
Ok, now that we have your secret to eye sharpening how about letting us in on your secret skin tricks?
Thanks for the comments Jeff, much appreciated.
Cocoa butter?
Honestly, it is a plug in that I found long ago ..and since I'm on my kid's laptop right now can't even give you the name. I use it in tiny amounts....and usually only for subjects over 30. I prefer...instead of softening and blurring...to just not sharpen anything in a photo other than eyes, lips, brows, and hair. I use a mask for selective sharpening in other words.
for teeth whitening....I use an approach similar to the one in the tutorial above, but begin by using the sponge tool set to desaturate...about 15% first.
The more you do it the faster you get at it ... yep, I sure do like the results. Thanks for the info above. I usually do a layer in soft light and paint with white for the teeth. Will be checking out the tutorial you listed and others there and the 15% desat you mentioned. Always love new (to me) ideas and tricks. Love photoshop and can spend too many hours playing but what I really need to do is learn photography because my goal is to get the photos to come out-of-camera the way they come out-of-Photoshop. I need a lot of help in the photography area!!
The more you do it the faster you get at it ... yep, I sure do like the results. Thanks for the info above. I usually do a layer in soft light and paint with white for the teeth. Will be checking out the tutorial you listed and others there and the 15% desat you mentioned. Always love new (to me) ideas and tricks. Love photoshop and can spend too many hours playing but what I really need to do is learn photography because my goal is to get the photos to come out-of-camera the way they come out-of-Photoshop. I need a lot of help in the photography area!!
...in my experience, the shots that look the best straight from the camera are the ones you can squeeze the most out of in photoshop...and are the most fun to experiment with.
...in my experience, the shots that look the best straight from the camera are the ones you can squeeze the most out of in photoshop...and are the most fun to experiment with.
I sure do love to play in Photoshop. I will start editing and start playing with different effects on a photo and a couple hours later end up with all these different versions of that one photo and then realize I have about 300 more to edit. WOW ... that's gonna take a while!!! ...Need discipline to just do initial editing and keep going !!!
for teeth whitening....I use an approach similar to the one in the tutorial above, but begin by using the sponge tool set to desaturate...about 15% first.
One method that will save you a step is to select the teeth (I like Quick Mask
mode for this) and create a Hue/Sat layer with the selection active. Now you
can both desaturate and lighten the teeth in one dialog box. You can also target
just the yellows with this method, which makes the desaturation look a bit more
natural.
One method that will save you a step is to select the teeth (I like Quick Mask
mode for this) and create a Hue/Sat layer with the selection active. Now you
can both desaturate and lighten the teeth in one dialog box. You can also target
just the yellows with this method, which makes the desaturation look a bit more
natural.
Thanks for the info Bernard. Tried it this morning and it works nicely. Love these informative threads.
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Also, bigger shot would show more details, if you will.
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It looks great by the way, and I meant to comment on the thread of her photos yesterday. You really did a great job with the whole set.
For others, the technique is explained in this article by Debbie Grossman that I found in Popular Photography. I am not a fan of the method in the article for whitening teeth, and have my own method for skin softening/smoothing, but the eye tutorial is a real winner.
It is easy to overdo and make the eyes look unatural. As with most PP tricks a little can go a long way. Looks like you nailed it here.
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The difference side by side would be subtle unless viewed at 50% or so...and you may not see the difference. The method whitens the whites, and ups the contrast on the iris. Makes the eyes sharper without actually sharpening them. It's the best method I have run across to date.
Jeff
-Need help with Dgrin?; Wedding Photography Resources
-My Website - Blog - Tips for Senior Portraiture
Looks as if I lost the revised photo in it's original size so I can't make the post bigger but here is the unrevised version in approximately the same size. The difference in the beads I think is the most visible at this size.
Yes, using quick mask, high pass sharpen, and curves.
Ok, now that we have your secret to eye sharpening how about letting us in on your secret skin tricks?
Thanks for the comments Jeff, much appreciated.
How did the eye treatment effect the beads....I usually mask so that the treatment only effects the eyes....then only do a global high pass sharpening?
Jeff
-Need help with Dgrin?; Wedding Photography Resources
-My Website - Blog - Tips for Senior Portraiture
I masked them off separately and applied the same treatment as to the eyes. Did the same with the lips. All masked separately so I could control each.
Cocoa butter?
Honestly, it is a plug in that I found long ago ..and since I'm on my kid's laptop right now can't even give you the name. I use it in tiny amounts....and usually only for subjects over 30. I prefer...instead of softening and blurring...to just not sharpen anything in a photo other than eyes, lips, brows, and hair. I use a mask for selective sharpening in other words.
for teeth whitening....I use an approach similar to the one in the tutorial above, but begin by using the sponge tool set to desaturate...about 15% first.
Jeff
-Need help with Dgrin?; Wedding Photography Resources
-My Website - Blog - Tips for Senior Portraiture
It can be time consuming....right?
...but the results!!!!
Jeff
-Need help with Dgrin?; Wedding Photography Resources
-My Website - Blog - Tips for Senior Portraiture
The more you do it the faster you get at it ... yep, I sure do like the results. Thanks for the info above. I usually do a layer in soft light and paint with white for the teeth. Will be checking out the tutorial you listed and others there and the 15% desat you mentioned. Always love new (to me) ideas and tricks. Love photoshop and can spend too many hours playing but what I really need to do is learn photography because my goal is to get the photos to come out-of-camera the way they come out-of-Photoshop. I need a lot of help in the photography area!!
Jeff
-Need help with Dgrin?; Wedding Photography Resources
-My Website - Blog - Tips for Senior Portraiture
I sure do love to play in Photoshop. I will start editing and start playing with different effects on a photo and a couple hours later end up with all these different versions of that one photo and then realize I have about 300 more to edit. WOW ... that's gonna take a while!!! ...
One method that will save you a step is to select the teeth (I like Quick Mask
mode for this) and create a Hue/Sat layer with the selection active. Now you
can both desaturate and lighten the teeth in one dialog box. You can also target
just the yellows with this method, which makes the desaturation look a bit more
natural.
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Thanks for the info Bernard. Tried it this morning and it works nicely. Love these informative threads.