Canon powershot G9

Arvan

I think im getting one of these black sweethearts!

I just have a question about the RAW format setting. I allways shoot in raw with my 20D and probably allways will..The thing is that i don´t really think that the old 20D gives me that much information to play with. The G9 is newer and has more pixels ( i know, pixels isnt everything ) but i jus thought that it might have more information?

How big are the rawfiles from the g9? and do they stand any processing?

Best regards // Arvid

ziggy53

Arvan wrote:

I think im getting one of these black sweethearts!

I just have a question about the RAW format setting. I allways shoot in raw with my 20D and probably allways will..The thing is that i don´t really think that the old 20D gives me that much information to play with. The G9 is newer and has more pixels ( i know, pixels isnt everything ) but i jus thought that it might have more information?

How big are the rawfiles from the g9? and do they stand any processing?

Best regards // Arvid

Arvan,

While the Canon G9 has some great attributes, don't underestimate the 20D.

The 20D is far better in low-light and high-ISO. The G9 is terribly convenient and does very well in good light and with flash used properly.

Arvan

ziggy53 wrote:

Arvan,

While the Canon G9 has some great attributes, don't underestimate the 20D.

The 20D is far better in low-light and high-ISO. The G9 is terribly convenient and does very well in good light and with flash used properly.

I am aware of that, but it is starting to fail me and dosnt work properly. So i thought i would get a G9 or a similair advanced p&s under the time il save up for a 5d mk 2 or a d700 setup.

ivar

Arvan wrote:

I am aware of that, but it is starting to fail me and dosnt work properly. So i thought i would get a G9 or a similair advanced p&s under the time il save up for a 5d mk 2 or a d700 setup.

Arvan, I own both the G9 and the 30d. Although I love my G9, it will never be a replacement for my 30d. As great as it is, it's not an SLR. Reasons include the relatively high noise on higher ISO (>100), shutter delay, and the way the controls are set up (normal for a P&S, but it takes more time and effort to change some things compared to an SLR).

If your 20d is starting to fail as you say, can you have it fixed? or stick it out long enough to have saved up for a new SLR?

thebigsky

Arvan, the G9 is a great little camera but I can't imagine owning it as a replacement for a DSLR, I think you'll be disappointed having owned a 20D how it performs in certain situations, low light etc.

I would always consider it as a partner for a DSLR.

Charlie

Kilted1

I've been the happy owner of a G9 since July this year. I have no DSLR so this is my main digital camera at present.

Like a few have said here if you have a DSLR then you should concider the G9 as a back-up or some thing to use when you don't want to lugg too much stuff around.

I love the macro abilities of the G9 and the file sizes I'll check (I'm at work at present).

You'll be very happy with a G9 as long as you can live with the fact it isn't a DSLR

DoctorIt

Arvan wrote:

How big are the rawfiles from the g9? and do they stand any processing?

~11 to 12mb. They process very nicely, especially at iso 80 and 100, even 200 and 400 are quite acceptable.

I love both my 30d and g9, and would have a very tough time deciding between them. I guess if I was forced to have one, I'd probably take the versatility and portability of the g9 (very personal though, hiking and motorcycling are two favorite activities, and they don't suit the bulky dslr well).

colourbox

Please note that the Canon G9 is listed as Out of Stock at Adorama and Discontinued at B&H, and those retailers who actually have some left have jacked up their prices. This had led to rampant rumors that a G10 or G11 is to be announced at Photokina this month.

Andy

colourbox wrote:

Please note that the Canon G9 is listed as Out of Stock at Adorama and Discontinued at B&H, and those retailers who actually have some left have jacked up their prices. This had led to rampant rumors that a G10 or G11 is to be announced at Photokina this month.

Geo, anyone? Wider angle, standard (28mm, anyone?) Better digic, anyone? Gasp - larger sensor?

Andy

Andy wrote:

Geo, anyone? Wider angle, standard (28mm, anyone?) Better digic, anyone? Gasp - larger sensor?

This was leaked a week ago, probably by accident:

http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=popphotog10leakql1.png

Tee Why

I've the 30D which has the same sensor and the processor as the 20D but only occasionally find the RAW lacking, usually with dynamic lighting or tonal gradation when shooting in the dark.

Can you be more specific about the troubles you are having?

Generally, I would suspect that the higher MP crammed into a tiny sensor will give you less leeway in terms of RAW processing.

thebigsky

colourbox wrote:

Please note that the Canon G9 is listed as Out of Stock at Adorama and Discontinued at B&H, and those retailers who actually have some left have jacked up their prices. This had led to rampant rumors that a G10 or G11 is to be announced at Photokina this month.

Well, given that I only bought a G9 about 6 weeks ago I would say you could almost guarantee it :cry

Charlie

sara505

thebigsky wrote:

Well, given that I only bought a G9 about 6 weeks ago I would say you could almost guarantee it :cry

Charlie

I bought my G9 a few weeks ago, despite the G10 rumors, and despite B&H having told me it was out of stock one day, but surprise, now we have 'em. Got mine as a companion to 40D, which I love but is just too big to carry around every day. Love the G9 - nice, sharp little camera, way more options than I'll ever use in my life time, fits in my bag, shoots in RAW. Only thing I don't love is no DPP. Sort of wish I'd waited, but sometimes, when you need a camera, you need a camera.

Andy

The G10 looks darn good, 28mm wide angle, and full manual controls on a P&S. I'm not thrilled about more megapixels, but it sure seems like Canon is placing a lot of faith in Digic 4, so I'm willing to try it. I've preordered it and hope to have one soon

thebigsky

Andy wrote:

The G10 looks darn good, 28mm wide angle, and full manual controls on a P&S. I'm not thrilled about more megapixels, but it sure seems like Canon is placing a lot of faith in Digic 4, so I'm willing to try it. I've preordered it and hope to have one soon

You don't have to rub it in

I'm also left wondering what my 1ds MKIII gives me over the 5D Mk II for the type of shooting I do. C'est la vie.

Charlie

patch29

Andy wrote:

The G10 looks darn good, 28mm wide angle, and full manual controls on a P&S. I'm not thrilled about more megapixels, but it sure seems like Canon is placing a lot of faith in Digic 4, so I'm willing to try it. I've preordered it and hope to have one soon

The only miss for the G10 I see at the moment is the lack of a 2:3 format option, many of PS cameras offer that. It would be great to have on the job for quick candids, but only if I could mix those easily with DSLR shots. I hope the option is in there. Canon listed a wide format, but it is much wider than 2:3. I also wish it had a flip screen for very low shots or shots overhead on a monopod.

Andy

patch29 wrote:

The only miss for the G10 I see at the moment is the lack of a 2:3 format option, many of PS cameras offer that. It would be great to have on the job for quick candids, but only if I could mix those easily with DSLR shots. I hope the option is in there. Canon listed a wide format, but it is much wider than 2:3. I also wish it had a flip screen for very low shots or shots overhead on a monopod.

It has 3:2 http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_g10.asp

patch29

Andy wrote:

It has 3:2 http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_g10.asp

If that's right sign me up, but Canon's site has a different list of image sizes on the G10 spec page.

Andy

patch29 wrote:

If that's right sign me up, but Canon's site has a different list of image sizes on the G10 spec page.

Every new canon P&S I've used lately has the 3:2

Arvan

Well..In my point of view..The panasonic lumix LX3 is just love at this time!

ONLY 10 megapixels = thank god!

neat format

good looking

good lens with f/2-2.8

3" screen

16:9

good noise capabilities

full manual controll just like the G10 and P6000..

Only flaw for me is that there is no viewfinder..But i can live with that

colourbox

I am coming to the same conclusion about the LX-3 over the G10. I only wish they could combine the LX-3 with the G10's top panel dial configuration.