Trying extender on 400 5.6

KhaosKhaos Registered Users Posts: 2,435 Major grins
edited May 5, 2005 in Wildlife
I tried the first generation Tamron 1.4x on the 400 5.6.

The AF still works because the older Tamron doesn't communicate with the camera and the 20D still thinks it's at 5.6 and not 8. However, the light requirements act like at f8 and you do need a ton of light for it to work.

Most of my tests did come out slightly OOF because of light restraints. I was shooting at 100 fps or less on some and without IS, they didn't come out sharp.

Here are 2 shots that had enough light for good shutter speed.

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  • SusanBSusanB Registered Users Posts: 281 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2005
    A challenge trying to get those small creatures so far away and moving so fast. Really like the second one for the pose, colors and detail thumb.gif

    Susan
  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2005
    15524779-Ti.gif
    How'd you get that nice matching background thumb.gif
  • KhaosKhaos Registered Users Posts: 2,435 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2005
    SusanB wrote:
    A challenge trying to get those small creatures so far away and moving so fast. Really like the second one for the pose, colors and detail thumb.gif

    Susan
    Thank you Susan. It was the 3rd shot in about 5 where I actually got the bird in focus and not the branch in front of it.:D
  • KhaosKhaos Registered Users Posts: 2,435 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2005
    bfjr wrote:
    15524779-Ti.gif
    How'd you get that nice matching background thumb.gif
    Thanks Ben. Just lucky. I was in a wetlands and the background was pretty much the same as what you see the bird perched on.
  • leebaseleebase Registered Users Posts: 630 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2005
    Very well done. I especially like the second one. Small birds are very hard to shoot.

    Lee
  • hichuzhichuz Registered Users Posts: 99 Big grins
    edited May 4, 2005
    Some nice shots... should be featured in the Audubon field guide...
    RC :thumb
  • T4TotsT4Tots Registered Users Posts: 198 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2005
    Really nice! I love the clarity. The background certainly was good to you :) I love the colors and the angle in the first one.
    Tina Folsom :lust
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  • howardhoward Registered Users Posts: 89 Big grins
    edited May 5, 2005
    Nice shots. Out of interest which focus point(s) did you use? I ask because I use a Kenko Pro 1.4 on the 400/5.6 (pins taped to retain focus) and I only get focus success if I use the centre point only. Usually I try to focus on the eye or at least the head and then recompose. Birds in flight being the exception where I use all points if I have time to change settings. Howard
  • MuskyDudeMuskyDude Registered Users Posts: 1,508 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2005
    Now THAT'S close! Nice shots, looking forward to seeing more done with this combo. thumb.gif


    AJ
  • davevdavev Registered Users Posts: 3,118 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2005
    Khaos wrote:
    I tried the first generation Tamron 1.4x on the 400 5.6.

    The AF still works because the older Tamron doesn't communicate with the camera and the 20D still thinks it's at 5.6 and not 8. However, the light requirements act like at f8 and you do need a ton of light for it to work.

    Most of my tests did come out slightly OOF because of light restraints. I was shooting at 100 fps or less on some and without IS, they didn't come out sharp.

    Here are 2 shots that had enough light for good shutter speed.
    Both shots look great. Couldn't you raise the ISO to get some of the
    shutter speed back? I'm asking because I've heard the D20 is supposed to
    be quite good at be noise free at higher ISO's.

    dave.
    dave.

    Basking in the shadows of yesterday's triumphs'.
  • KhaosKhaos Registered Users Posts: 2,435 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2005
    howard wrote:
    Nice shots. Out of interest which focus point(s) did you use? I ask because I use a Kenko Pro 1.4 on the 400/5.6 (pins taped to retain focus) and I only get focus success if I use the centre point only. Usually I try to focus on the eye or at least the head and then recompose. Birds in flight being the exception where I use all points if I have time to change settings. Howard
    I generally always use the single point focus on all my shots. I don't trust the 9 point. I think I'm a little anal when it comes to that, but I rarely use anything but single point since I know what I want in the shot.

    There's no need to tape using the TAmron because it's the older extender and not the new one that communicates with the camera. Thus multipoint focus is available if wanted. Plus the old one is cheap.:D
  • KhaosKhaos Registered Users Posts: 2,435 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2005
    davev wrote:
    Both shots look great. Couldn't you raise the ISO to get some of the
    shutter speed back? I'm asking because I've heard the D20 is supposed to
    be quite good at be noise free at higher ISO's.

    dave.
    I do. The ISO here was 200 and this was in full sunshine. 800 on shorter lenses is OK, but telephotos at that ISO or higher aren't very sharp. Even with 800, if I was anywhere near shade or it was overcast, the shutter would still be slow. 1600 is a no-no if you want sharp detail of bird feathers. It's fine for other things where you don't mind letting the eye naturally blend things together for the shot.
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