Scandinavian letters to keywords

Jouko LehtoJouko Lehto Registered Users Posts: 26 Big grins
edited November 15, 2009 in SmugMug Support
Please, add support for Scandinavian and German letters to keywords - you know ä,ö,ü etc. Keywords won't show words as Häijää or pyöriäinen or järvi right, insted you'll get something like Hij or pyriinen or jrvi...

Captions and other text-modules work fine.

But would there be markets also for russian or chinese support? And maybe all other alphabets, too...

Jouko

PS. Häijää is a village near Tampere and pyöriäinen is a very rare delphin, järvi meaning a lake. We have lot's and lot's of these kind of words and names here in Finland - and don't forget the swedes or norvegians...
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 19, 2008
    Hi, we don't do UTF-8 in our keywords, because keywords can become part of our URLs and they'd break. Sorry :( I will try to find out if it's something that we can do in the future, thanks!
    Andy

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  • ScalaScala Registered Users Posts: 95 Big grins
    edited October 19, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Hi, we don't do UTF-8 in our keywords, because keywords can become part of our URLs and they'd break. Sorry :( I will try to find out if it's something that we can do in the future, thanks!

    Flickr does it, though. Let's see if these URLs work:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/häijää/
    Or the encoded version:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/h%C3%A4ij%C3%A4%C3%A4/

    I've been waiting for Smugmug to add this for ages :)
    My smugmug site: www.majakorpi.net
  • OppsOpps Registered Users Posts: 160 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2008
    Scala wrote:
    Flickr does it, though. Let's see if these URLs work:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/häijää/
    Or the encoded version:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/h%C3%A4ij%C3%A4%C3%A4/

    I've been waiting for Smugmug to add this for ages :)

    Yep, this is something I want to see also.

    (for us who use more/other characters than the ascii set it's somewhat comparable to writing English without the use of 'i', 'a' and 'o')
    --
    Jan Erik Moström
  • iambackiamback Registered Users Posts: 288 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Hi, we don't do UTF-8 in our keywords, because keywords can become part of our URLs
    Yes
    and they'd break.
    No. That's what URL-encoding is for. Which in all but the most primitive programming languages takes exactly one single function call. :fu That's peanuts.

    Since we're into excuses, I'll provide the next one for you FLIPA.gif "Our database isn't designed to support it".

    So it takes a database conversion. SmugMug has done hairier updates than converting a single database column to support UTF-8. It's simply needed for professional keywording - without UTF-8 support it's a bit of a toy.

    Please, Smugmug, do a bit of growing up here!
    Marjolein Katsma
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2008
    iamback wrote:
    Please, Smugmug, do a bit of growing up here!
    We'll check on it and see if it's something we can add to our list. Thanks for being persistent about this, guys!
    Andy

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  • iambackiamback Registered Users Posts: 288 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    We'll check on it and see if it's something we can add to our list. Thanks for being persistent about this, guys!
    Thanks, Andy!

    Please let us know how it goes.
    Marjolein Katsma
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  • OppsOpps Registered Users Posts: 160 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2008
    iamback wrote:
    Thanks, Andy!

    Please let us know how it goes.

    Thanks, it would be most appreciated
    --
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  • Jouko LehtoJouko Lehto Registered Users Posts: 26 Big grins
    edited October 21, 2008
    Waiting for it
    And thanks!

    Jouko
  • JIRphotoJIRphoto Registered Users Posts: 27 Big grins
    edited October 23, 2008
    Just want to add my support to this issue.
    The lack of special characters in keywords is a major issue with my use of Smugmug. Any improvements here would be very welcome!
    Thanks,
    Jens
    website: http://ringstadfoto.no/
    smugmug galleries: http://galleries.ringstadfoto.no/
  • westiswestis Registered Users Posts: 34 Big grins
    edited January 2, 2009
    Any progress with this? It really looks very weird with a keyword list where lots of keywords are missing letters... Now that there is a "hack" for translating with JavaScript (until there is real localization support :), keywords with non-English characters is the last real bottleneck for international users.

    Thanks!
  • Climber_Climber_ Registered Users Posts: 3 Big grins
    edited January 4, 2009
    Just want to add my support to this issue.
    These crippled keywords are a show stopper for me.
  • maiaibingmaiaibing Registered Users Posts: 1 Beginner grinner
    edited January 25, 2009
    Another unhappy international customer
    OK. I remember special characters was a bitch when printing with MS-DOS 2.1 in 1986 (?).

    Since then its been a question of small effort.

    Just do it!

    :ivar
  • ArnsteinsArnsteins Registered Users Posts: 12 Big grins
    edited February 9, 2009
    Please..
    Yes, international characters are much needed! Please give it to us! How many more need to request this before you do something? deal.gif
    By the way, I'm impressed by the support team at SmugMug. Great work! thumb.gif
    -A
  • bossanovabossanova Registered Users Posts: 1 Beginner grinner
    edited February 9, 2009
    I want international characters too! :)

    It wouldn't bee very intuitive if all users that wanted to search for pictures from Washington, actually had to type "Wshington", would it? mwink.gif
  • Jouko LehtoJouko Lehto Registered Users Posts: 26 Big grins
    edited February 10, 2009
    Any news ?
    Still waiting for the support on this subject.

    Jouko
  • OppsOpps Registered Users Posts: 160 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2009
    Sometime this can be quite funny: "älg" (moose) isn't exactly the same thing as "alg" (algae) rolleyes1.gif
    --
    Jan Erik Moström
  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2009
    Opps wrote:
    Sometime this can quite funny: "älg" (moose) isn't exactly the same thing as "alg" (algae) rolleyes1.gif

    ROFLMAO rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifroflrolleyes1.gifroflrolleyes1.gifroflrolleyes1.gifroflrolleyes1.gifroflrolleyes1.gifroflrolleyes1.gifrofl
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  • ulffulff Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited February 15, 2009
    Here is my vote for adding this "feature"! It's quite anoying to not being able to tag my images with norwegian characthers.

    Hope you are considering adding this in the near future?
  • gwunwaigwunwai Registered Users Posts: 2 Beginner grinner
    edited February 16, 2009
    Yes, yes, please add UTF-8 support in keywords, categories and sub-categories :)
  • Climber_Climber_ Registered Users Posts: 3 Big grins
    edited March 11, 2009
    Oh, I was so happy when I saw the heading for the March 5th release note: "UTF8 and Bug Fixes". But then I read the small print: "Added alpha-numeric UTF-8 support for custom categories, subcategories, and community names."

    Hey, you forgot the KEYWORDS! We need international characters for keywords too.

    I guess we can't get everything in one month, but next month...

    Thanks.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2009
    Climber_ wrote:
    Hey, you forgot the KEYWORDS!
    We haven't forgotten.
    Andy

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  • PetrisPetris Registered Users Posts: 17 Big grins
    edited May 13, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    We haven't forgotten.

    I am "noobie" on SM pro and i wish this feature will be in use soon thumb.gif

    another question: If i like to link shots from my SM to forums and i have set up no easy linkin and no share as optional.
    Is there another way to do it than everytime re-set these settings? Like i hope, when i sign in to my accont these setting will be set as "open". Hope your understand my typos eek7.gif
    http://www.petriskog.com
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 13, 2009
    Petris wrote:
    I am "noobie" on SM pro and i wish this feature will be in use soon thumb.gif

    another question: If i like to link shots from my SM to forums and i have set up no easy linkin and no share as optional.
    Is there another way to do it than everytime re-set these settings? Like i hope, when i sign in to my accont these setting will be set as "open". Hope your understand my typos eek7.gif
    What level of account do you have, what is your site name ear.gif
    Andy

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  • PetrisPetris Registered Users Posts: 17 Big grins
    edited May 13, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    What level of account do you have, what is your site name ear.gif
    Pro(trial time), petris.smugmug.com :D
    http://www.petriskog.com
  • MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited May 13, 2009
    iamback wrote:
    Yes No. That's what URL-encoding is for. Which in all but the most primitive programming languages takes exactly one single function call. :fu That's peanuts.

    Since we're into excuses, I'll provide the next one for you FLIPA.gif "Our database isn't designed to support it".

    So it takes a database conversion. SmugMug has done hairier updates than converting a single database column to support UTF-8. It's simply needed for professional keywording - without UTF-8 support it's a bit of a toy.

    Please, Smugmug, do a bit of growing up here!

    I haven't been using keywords at all because I heard they're incompatible with passworded galleries... Or maybe they're not...!? *Cue conspriracy music* What's your verdict iamback?

    I'm Swedish so I'll throw my support in for this regardless, for my Scandinavian bretheren without pw'd galleries.

    Malte
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 13, 2009
    Petris wrote:
    I am "noobie" on SM pro and i wish this feature will be in use soon thumb.gif

    another question: If i like to link shots from my SM to forums and i have set up no easy linkin and no share as optional.
    Is there another way to do it than everytime re-set these settings? Like i hope, when i sign in to my accont these setting will be set as "open". Hope your understand my typos eek7.gif
    As a power or pro, you can allow for the share button to be visible to you, while logged in, but not your customers/visitors. If you want this, post in the customizing forum, it's a tiny bit of CSS.
    Andy

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  • xegaxega Registered Users Posts: 5 Beginner grinner
    edited June 6, 2009
    Anything new?
    Andy wrote:
    As a power or pro, you can allow for the share button to be visible to you, while logged in, but not your customers/visitors. If you want this, post in the customizing forum, it's a tiny bit of CSS.

    Any news on the scandinavian letters to keywords? It's really annoying not be able to use the keywords...
  • ulffulff Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited November 14, 2009
    Looks like utf-8 keyword is implemented now! Thank you for this much needed feature :)

    http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2009/11/13/utf-8-keywords-scandigital/
  • OppsOpps Registered Users Posts: 160 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2009
    ulff wrote:
    Looks like utf-8 keyword is implemented now! Thank you for this much needed feature :)

    http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2009/11/13/utf-8-keywords-scandigital/

    THANK YOU
    --
    Jan Erik Moström
  • Climber_Climber_ Registered Users Posts: 3 Big grins
    edited November 15, 2009
    I was thinking about migrating to Flickr, but I believe I'll stick with SmugMug now. Thank you thumb.gif
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