Control Panel Tabs

rharodigitalrharodigital Registered Users Posts: 7 Beginner grinner
edited November 10, 2008 in SmugMug Support
Sorry, I can't find word of this change.

I see the new button changes when I log in and I'm viewing my homepage. But when I click to the control panel, I now only have four tab choices?

The Homepage tab is missing. (If I remember what it was called now - I got so used to just clicking it.) From there I could see the Photo Communities I joined.

Now I can only see them if I check the option via the homepage layout button. What happened?

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2008
    Yep, you do it all from the homepage now. We'll try and put the homepage tab back, but you don't really need it now :)

    Release notes coming!
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  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,015 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Yep, you do it all from the homepage now. We'll try and put the homepage tab back, but you don't really need it now :)

    Release notes coming!
    Yal but things won't stick when moving the homepage boxes now.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2008
    Allen wrote:
    Yal but things won't stick when moving the homepage boxes now.
    Sure they will/do...
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  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,015 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Sure they will/do...
    Mean I gota wait till they fix it?:D
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2008
    Allen wrote:
    Mean I gota wait till they fix it?:D
    Are you having an issue - b/c it's working fine here ne_nau.gif
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  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,015 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Are you having an issue - b/c it's working fine here ne_nau.gif
    It was working here also, happily sitting at the bottom. Then I tested the new
    homepage button and hid it. Now when unhiding it's stuck at the top. Same
    thing happens with the friends/family box.:D
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  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Yep, you do it all from the homepage now. We'll try and put the homepage tab back, but you don't really need it now :)

    Release notes coming!


    Andy, do you realize how many times people mess up their homepage by hiding essential controls or by putting unclosed DIVs in their bio and we all go tell them to go fix things in the homepage tab of the control panel by editing their bio their? Now, how do they fix things? If they can't edit their bio because they've screwed it up, there's no way out. I would think that you, king of support, would think the homepage tab was essential for support reasons if nothing else.

    Because of the effects of serious customization errors, it is always necessary to have an alternate way to fix things that does not rely on controls in the page. Without it, your support heroes are going to be the only ones who can fix things, users won't be able to recover from a wide variety of relatively simple mistakes.

    Unless you have a bullet-proof way of preventing user customization mistakes or the hiding of essential controls, I would think it would be UI policy at Smugmug that you can always fix something in the control panel without relying on in-page controls.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    jfriend wrote:
    Andy, do you realize how many times people mess up their homepage by hiding essential controls or by putting unclosed DIVs in their bio and we all go tell them to go fix things in the homepage tab of the control panel? Now, how do they fix things?

    John, this method is not on the homepage tab. It's on the settings tab (and is still there, control panel>settings tab>bio>change).

    We're putting the homepage tab back, next release :)
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  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    John, this method is not on the homepage tab. It's on the settings tab (and is still there, control panel>settings tab>bio>change).

    We're putting the homepage tab back, next release :)

    So it is - good. Not easy to see for some reason, but it is there.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    jfriend wrote:
    So it is - good. Not easy to see for some reason, but it is there.
    Yeah. On the homepage tab, the bio is ajaxy-- so if it's b0rken on the homepage, it's b0rken on the homepage Tab in CP also.

    Thanks!
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  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Yeah. On the homepage tab, the bio is ajaxy-- so if it's b0rken on the homepage, it's b0rken on the homepage Tab in CP also.

    Thanks!

    Not entirely the case. Some users hide the edit stuff on the homepage either on purpose because they don't realize that viewers don't see it or by mistake so they can still get at it in the ajaxy version. But, I see your point on the ajaxy stuff that can be messed up by the user's own content.

    I guess we should amend the policy. There must be a way to fix any issue that can't be borked by the user's own content (which rules out some ajaxy ways).
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  • rharodigitalrharodigital Registered Users Posts: 7 Beginner grinner
    edited November 8, 2008
    More on the missing tab
    Andy wrote:
    Yep, you do it all from the homepage now. We'll try and put the homepage tab back, but you don't really need it now :)

    Release notes coming!

    But it seems that when I check the option on the Homepage tab, that is "to unhide" the feature - you're forcing me to to add the section to my homepage.

    Previously I could check out, add, delete Photo Communities at my whim and it would just be something behind the scenes.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    rharodigital wrote:
    But it seems that when I check the option on the Homepage tab, that is "to unhide" the feature - you're forcing me to to add the section to my homepage.

    Previously I could check out, add, delete Photo Communities at my whim and it would just be something behind the scenes.
    Yeah read the release notes we're putting them back :D Sorry!
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  • mickimicki Registered Users Posts: 47 Big grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Yeah read the release notes we're putting them back :D Sorry!

    ok

    yeah ~ I found something about this (asked this in my own question but no answer yet

    WHEN will it be added back

    I really need to have my homepage tab back so I can look at my folders "in private mode"

    I don't let everyone look at my folders on my front page.

    Thanks

    ~ micki
  • ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    micki wrote:
    ok

    yeah ~ I found something about this (asked this in my own question but no answer yet

    WHEN will it be added back

    I really need to have my homepage tab back so I can look at my folders "in private mode"

    I don't let everyone look at my folders on my front page.

    Thanks

    ~ micki
    as an alternative, you can move the galleries to your homepage, and add this to your custom CSS:
    .homepage #categoriesBox,
    .homepage #galleriesBox { display: none; }
    .loggedIn .homepage #categoriesBox,
    .loggedIn .homepage #galleriesBox { display: block; }


    This hides the galleries from your visitors, but shows them to you when you are logged in.
    Ivar
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  • {JT}{JT} Registered Users Posts: 1,016 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2008
    The Homepage tab is now back in the control panel :)
  • mickimicki Registered Users Posts: 47 Big grins
    edited November 9, 2008
    ivar wrote:
    as an alternative, you can move the galleries to your homepage, and add this to your custom CSS:
    .homepage #categoriesBox,
    .homepage #galleriesBox { display: none; }
    .loggedIn .homepage #categoriesBox,
    .loggedIn .homepage #galleriesBox { display: block; }


    This hides the galleries from your visitors, but shows them to you when you are logged in.

    Thank you Ivar

    I might do that because the TAB that is BACK does NOT give you the option to see the the folders.

    I don't know why it doesn't work like it did before. Weird.
  • ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2008
    micki wrote:
    Thank you Ivar

    I might do that because the TAB that is BACK does NOT give you the option to see the the folders.

    I don't know why it doesn't work like it did before. Weird.
    It does, but only in 'category' view, not 'gallery' view thumb.gif
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  • mickimicki Registered Users Posts: 47 Big grins
    edited November 9, 2008
    ivar wrote:
    It does, but only in 'category' view, not 'gallery' view thumb.gif

    clap.gif

    THANK YOU!!!!

    Now I can find my pictures I stuck in an obscure category (like PEE)

    HA HA HA

    I went crazy.

    Thanks so much! :)


    I have WAY too many pictures with this silly business. SMUGMUG rocks ;)

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  • mickimicki Registered Users Posts: 47 Big grins
    edited November 10, 2008
    micki wrote:
    clap.gif

    THANK YOU!!!!

    Now I can find my pictures I stuck in an obscure category (like PEE)

    HA HA HA

    I went crazy.

    Thanks so much! :)


    I have WAY too many pictures with this silly business. SMUGMUG rocks ;)

    wings.gif


    Ok I take my HAPPY DANCE BACK

    HELP!!

    it's GONE AGAIN

    THE GALLERIES will NOT stay on the HIDDEN Homepage tab.

    Again this is REALLY important for us that own businesses and do not want people to find these galleries that we do not have locked but have them direct for people for a short period of time.

    PLEASE make them available for us to see our galaries back in this place without me making it "UN HIDDEN" on the front or doing like IVAN said and making me see it on the front (I hate that). I want to see it hidden.

    Thanks ~ micki
  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited November 10, 2008
    micki wrote:
    Ok I take my HAPPY DANCE BACK

    HELP!!

    it's GONE AGAIN

    THE GALLERIES will NOT stay on the HIDDEN Homepage tab.

    Again this is REALLY important for us that own businesses and do not want people to find these galleries that we do not have locked but have them direct for people for a short period of time.

    PLEASE make them available for us to see our galaries back in this place without me making it "UN HIDDEN" on the front or doing like IVAN said and making me see it on the front (I hate that). I want to see it hidden.

    Thanks ~ micki

    I don't understand this issue at all. Galleries that are set to unlisted will not show to the public, but will show to you when you are logged in.

    When logged in, you can see them either by setting your homepage to show by gallery and see them there or you can set your homepage to show by category and then navigate to the right category. Am I missing something here? Why do you also need to see them in the homepage tab? If you want to make it easy to find unlisted galleries, then just put them all in a common category hierarchy.
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