Greenfinches

canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
edited November 9, 2008 in Wildlife
These are a few shots I took of some Greenfinches this afternoon. Still learning so give me the full works and keep me right as I want to improve my shots.
Regards
Bob
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    Look a lot like immature Goldfinches to me.

    Don
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  • pyrypyry Registered Users Posts: 1,733 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    In general it looks like you'd need to up your shutter speeds (there's motion blur), and pay more attention to composition (rule of thirds, use slightly wider crops). Perhaps a bit more vibrance in the colour would help too.

    Pretty finches though, number 4 is quite good! thumb.gif

    Don: They do resemble american goldfinches, but they are european greenfinches - Bob's in Scotland :D
    Creativity's hard.

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  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    DonRicklin wrote:
    Look a lot like immature Goldfinches to me.

    Don

    Hi Don you are not telling me they are like Goldfinches you will see in my next thread where I have posted some Goldfinches. I am learning and OMG it all changes by the day.
    Regards
    Bob
  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    canon400d wrote:
    Hi Don you are not telling me they are like Goldfinches you will see in my next thread where I have posted some Goldfinches. I am learning and OMG it all changes by the day.
    Regards
    Bob
    Well, if they were in America, they would be imature Goldfinches. and our American Goldfinches are much more yellow that your redheaded ones! I didn't realize at first you are in Scotland!

    Don
    Don Ricklin - Gear: Canon EOS 5D Mark III, was Pentax K7
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  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    pyry wrote:
    In general it looks like you'd need to up your shutter speeds (there's motion blur), and pay more attention to composition (rule of thirds, use slightly wider crops). Perhaps a bit more vibrance in the colour would help too.

    Pretty finches though, number 4 is quite good! thumb.gif

    Don: They do resemble american goldfinches, but they are european greenfinches - Bob's in Scotland :D

    Thanks Pyry for taking the time and replying. I was shooting Raw TV mode and I was using a high shutter speed I think like 1/800 and F5.6 ISO 800 when I press the shutter halfway I notice the shutter speed drops way way down. Is this the reason or am I not doing it right. I usually use M mode but for these fast moving birds I used TV and with my 40D continuous 6.5per sec.
    Regards
    Bob
  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    canon400d wrote:
    Thanks Pyry for taking the time and replying. I was shooting Raw TV mode and I was using a high shutter speed I think like 1/800 and F5.6 ISO 800 when I press the shutter halfway I notice the shutter speed drops way way down. Is this the reason or am I not doing it right. I usually use M mode but for these fast moving birds I used TV and with my 40D continuous 6.5per sec.
    Regards
    Bob

    Hey Don,
    Welcome to Scotland. I thought you knew I was from Scotland as I have spoken to you many times and admired every aspect of your photography. I am learning by the day and enjoying every minute of it and the help one gets from Dgrin members is unbelievable and I am confident I will get there with all the wonderful help I get off Dgrin.
    Regards
    Bob
  • pyrypyry Registered Users Posts: 1,733 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    canon400d wrote:
    Thanks Pyry for taking the time and replying. I was shooting Raw TV mode and I was using a high shutter speed I think like 1/800 and F5.6 ISO 800 when I press the shutter halfway I notice the shutter speed drops way way down. Is this the reason or am I not doing it right. I usually use M mode but for these fast moving birds I used TV and with my 40D continuous 6.5per sec.
    Regards
    Bob

    Do you have the Av/Tv safety shift enabled in the custom functions? That would adjust your shutter speed in Tv mode if the exposure is too low or high and the aperture runs out room of adjustment.
    Creativity's hard.

    http://pyryekholm.kuvat.fi/
  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    canon400d wrote:
    Hey Don,
    Welcome to Scotland. I thought you knew I was from Scotland as I have spoken to you many times and admired every aspect of your photography. I am learning by the day and enjoying every minute of it and the help one gets from Dgrin members is unbelievable and I am confident I will get there with all the wonderful help I get off Dgrin.
    Regards
    Bob
    Excuse me, I justa crotchety, forgetful old man at times!headscratch.gif
    Sorry to be a bother!

    You're doing fine. Just keep shooting!

    Don
    Don Ricklin - Gear: Canon EOS 5D Mark III, was Pentax K7
    'I was older then, I'm younger than that now' ....
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  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    pyry wrote:
    Do you have the Av/Tv safety shift enabled in the custom functions? That would adjust your shutter speed in Tv mode if the exposure is too low or high and the aperture runs out room of adjustment.

    I use canon 40D, I am not sure what you mean. But that could be the answer to my problem. In the Custom functions which one do I go to? Which shows the AV?TV?
  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    pyry wrote:
    Do you have the Av/Tv safety shift enabled in the custom functions? That would adjust your shutter speed in Tv mode if the exposure is too low or high and the aperture runs out room of adjustment.

    I know what you are saying, but I am not quite clear. Which one of the Custom functions are you referring to? Am I being absolutely stupid, so please forgive me as I have looked at all the custom functions on the 40D. Thanks again for all your help.
    Regards
    Bob
  • pyrypyry Registered Users Posts: 1,733 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2008
    canon400d wrote:
    I know what you are saying, but I am not quite clear. Which one of the Custom functions are you referring to? Am I being absolutely stupid, so please forgive me as I have looked at all the custom functions on the 40D. Thanks again for all your help.
    Regards
    Bob

    It's C-Fn 1-6: Safety shift.

    Note though that turning this off will lead to missed exposures - it's like treating a symptom - what you really need is to switch to a faster lens or turn the sensitivity up to make away with the need for the safety shifting.
    Creativity's hard.

    http://pyryekholm.kuvat.fi/
  • MaestroMaestro Registered Users Posts: 5,395 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2008
    4 and 5 are exceptionally nice. As has been said, watch that shutter speed to control that motion blur. Although if these green finches are anything like our goldfinches, they are quick little buggers. :D
    Stephen
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  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2008
    pyry wrote:
    It's C-Fn 1-6: Safety shift.

    Note though that turning this off will lead to missed exposures - it's like treating a symptom - what you really need is to switch to a faster lens or turn the sensitivity up to make away with the need for the safety shifting.

    I see the Safety Shift is in the enabled position. Where do I turn the sensitivity up? The lens I used was the Sigma 50-500 and was positioned at just under 400mm hand held. I will try using some of my other lenses to see if it helps.
    Thanks again for pointing me in the direction of the Safety Shift.
    Regards
    Bob
  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2008
    Maestro wrote:
    4 and 5 are exceptionally nice. As has been said, watch that shutter speed to control that motion blur. Although if these green finches are anything like our goldfinches, they are quick little buggers. :D

    Thanks for looking Stephen. I will certainly try and correct the motion blur and you are right when you say they are fast.
    Regards
    Bob
  • pyrypyry Registered Users Posts: 1,733 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2008
    canon400d wrote:
    I see the Safety Shift is in the enabled position. Where do I turn the sensitivity up? The lens I used was the Sigma 50-500 and was positioned at just under 400mm hand held. I will try using some of my other lenses to see if it helps.
    Thanks again for pointing me in the direction of the Safety Shift.
    Regards
    Bob

    Sensitivity = ISO. You had 800, so try 1600 if the situation calls for it.
    Creativity's hard.

    http://pyryekholm.kuvat.fi/
  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2008
    pyry wrote:
    Sensitivity = ISO. You had 800, so try 1600 if the situation calls for it.

    Thanks Pyry I should have realised. I will definately try 1600 the next time.
    Regards
    Bob
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