'nother 20D purchase question

Nir

Going from Sony 828 to 20D -

I will have at my disposal 2 lenses:
Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM
Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM

Will I be making a mistake in purchasing the 20D body only instead of the kit with lens?

Are these lenses good? Are they good with the 20D?

Thanks!

NHBubba

I don't have the 20D, I have the DRebel (300D) instead. I would most definitely get the kit lens. It does not cost much when part of the kit, usually less than $100 depending on where and when you buy. I think the lens is easily worth that, at the very least as a backup or a body cap! ... The only exception to that opinion is if you are getting the 17-85 IS kit instead.

My associate sold his DRebel and upgraded to the 20D. He had a modest lens collection and figured he did not need the kit lens. He planned on getting the 17-85 IS as funds permitted, but then fell in love w/ the 10-22. He's now out of money, and has no coverage from 20-55 mm, the normal territory. He very much regretts not getting the kit and is seriously considering getting an 18-55 seperately now..

Also 28 most definitely does not come close to 17-18mm on these cameras. Do not forget the 1.6x crop.. On these cameras 17 = ~28 effective and 28 = ~45 efective. 45mm is not all that wide.. I know I would miss the wide if I were to loose it.

Khaos

However, if you really want that lens, you can usually get it used for under $70.


I sold mine for $55.


Get the body only, use the lenses you have and when you decide, you need faster glass, get it.

I started with the Tamron 28-75 as a walk around. It's a great lens for the price. I then got quick prime fever and replaced it with primes.

Either way, I don't think the 18-55 sucks, but I also don't think it's worth $100 or more. If you want wide angle, save up and buy the 10-22. You won't be disappointed.

leebase

I'm one in favor of the kit lens. At least to tide you over until you can get a "quality" wide angle lens (like the Tamron 17-35 f2.8/4 or Canon 17-40L)

Considering that your other lenses are in the "consumer" category -- I don't think the kit lens is "beneath" your consideration.

And 28 is not wide on the 1.6x body.

Lee

Nir

Thanks guys!

I think I'll get the kit. The difference is small and finding the kit lens used, here in Israel, could prove difficult.

What I understand though, Lee, is that the Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM and the Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM, are considered 'consumer' lens.
Is that because of the F number? Not fast enough? or does it have something to do with optical quality? What can I expect from these lenses - lower resolution and sharpness? Will I be dissapointed with picture quality compared to the 828? (already sold it to a colleague at work)
My assumption was I could compensate for the slower lens with higher ISO on the 20D without loosing quality.

Sheila Smart

Hi Nir

The 28-105 is a great little lens (for its price) and it was one of the first lenses I bought for my D60 three years ago. I now regret selling it as its sharp and contrasty and the body is well built. It served me well for two years. I'm not sure about the 75-300 as its certainly had mixed reviews (as had the kit lens).

Cheers
Sheila

gus

Mate i use it..im not that experienced with any of my lenses yet but its really such a small amount of money. I find it very sharp personally once i leant to stop it down.

Its one of those things that you dont really care it you need to do some rough stuff & may damage a lens.

Gus

leebase

Consumer class means just that -- good enough for most consumers. They are a lot cheaper.

What's the difference?

Smaller aperatures (larger f-numbers). This means you can't shoot in as low a light without resorting to flash...and you can't get as small a DOF. Also, shooting with these lenses is darker in the view finder -- as you always look through the lens at widest aperature.

They will be softer wide open, and softer on the edges.

Does it matter? Depends. The "glass" is where you spend your most money because it's really the most important aspect after talent.

Lee