A Few Shots with a 5DMk ll

pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
edited December 16, 2008 in People
I was shooting in a coffee shop the other night to test the utility of the 5DKll in low light shooting. I used an 85mm f1.8. The lighting looked incandescent with round bulbs, but a Tungsten WB setting gave me images with a green tinge, and I realized the lights must be fluorescent. The Fluorescent WB setting did not work either, so I shot in AWB and balanced in RAW processing off the white card on the wall behind the performers. That gave me pretty good CMYK numbers for skin values.


ISO 3200 f2.2 1/80th

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ISO 6400 f2.5 1/160th

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  • angevin1angevin1 Registered Users Posts: 3,403 Major grins
    edited December 8, 2008
    Wow, great shots and Cleeeee-an~

    What distance were you from the gents? Reason I ask is I just got an 85mm lens and find it very UN-useful with my D300. I am about to move to FF and....need to know.

    thanks, tom
    tom wise
  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited December 8, 2008
    Hi Jim - Can you tell me if you used any noise reduction on these? How fast is the AF? These look beautiful wrt noise for that ISO!!!!

    ann
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited December 8, 2008
    Nice shootn', Jim! thumb.gif
    I'm getting really green-envy with all you 5D2-enabled folks..
    Must... get.. moneys....rolleyes1.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
    edited December 8, 2008
    I would guess I was 10-15 feet from the group. Traditionally, the 85mm was felt to be a head and shoulder lens on a 35mm camera. On a APS sensor, it will be much closer of course.

    Anne, I knew someone was going to ask about my processing, and I MAY have run them through Noiseware - I honestly don't recall as I did this Saturday evening - but I don't think I did. I will post another shot tomorrow without any noise processing for certain.

    These shots are a good 2-3 stops faster for equivalent noise than my 5D. That is the ISO 6400 shot looks like an ISO 800 shot on a 5D in my opinion. I have not seen the dreaded "black dots" described yet either.ne_nau.gif:D

    For fluorescent lighting, pretty decent color, I thought. Any comments about color balance?
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
    edited December 8, 2008
    Nik,

    I envy you the work you are showing with your models. Very nice indeed.

    You know cameras don't make pictures anyway, only photog's eyes do that!thumb.gif
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  • Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 8, 2008
    pathfinder wrote:
    Nik,

    I envy you the work you are showing with your models. Very nice indeed.

    You know cameras don't make pictures anyway, only photog's eyes do that!thumb.gif

    What about the fingers?? Last I hear the eyes can't press the shutter or change the aperature settings! rolleyes1.gif

    (nice shots!)
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
    edited December 8, 2008
    Fingers, Brains, eyes, you need them allthumb.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif
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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited December 8, 2008
    pathfinder wrote:
    Nik,

    I envy you the work you are showing with your models. Very nice indeed.

    You know cameras don't make pictures anyway, only photog's eyes do that!thumb.gif
    Hey, you wanna trade my left eye for your 5D2? ;-)
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • fotoeffectsfotoeffects Registered Users Posts: 77 Big grins
    edited December 9, 2008
    Color Balance
    The color balance looks quite good to me. I think it is a bit better with the first shot, but both are very nice.
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,955 moderator
    edited December 9, 2008
    These look excellent to me, Jim. Color me envious.
  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2008
    I could have one of these in the next day or two. But, I would have to make a decision (a) Get the camera, or (b) Keep the DW. Decisions, decisions, decisions. I just don't know which way to go!

    I think the fact that I'm still married might give others a cluerolleyes1.gif

    Like Richard said, "Color me envious!"
  • ZanottiZanotti Registered Users Posts: 1,411 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2008
    Jim:

    More importantly - whose photos are being displayed? Is that one of your herons?

    Perhaps a showing?


    Nice shots -


    Z
    It is the purpose of life that each of us strives to become actually what he is potentially. We should be obsessed with stretching towards that goal through the world we inhabit.
  • Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2008
    I could have one of these in the next day or two. But, I would have to make a decision (a) Get the camera, or (b) Keep the DW. Decisions, decisions, decisions. I just don't know which way to go!

    I think the fact that I'm still married might give others a cluerolleyes1.gif

    Like Richard said, "Color me envious!"

    Come on, Scott, cave in! Buy one under the radar!!

    Those are some great shots! Even those black dots are awesome! >.>
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  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2008
    Come on, Scott, cave in! Buy one under the radar!!
    There are at least 2 things you don't know about my wife:
    1. She is an alternative medicine health care provider and has learned how to discover ailments in others with barely a touch. I think a guilt problem will not slide under the radar.
    2. Our marriage is working on the second 1/4 century and she has, by now, learned how to sense when I attempt to keep something from her. I say attempt because I am seldom successful in keeping anything significant from her.
    So, no matter how much I would like to get one it's just not going to happen.
  • Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2008
    Well, Scott, that is a bummer. Try to get a friend to buy one and borrow it from that friend 24/7! rolleyes1.gif
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  • WolftepWolftep Registered Users Posts: 67 Big grins
    edited December 9, 2008
    So, no matter how much I would like to get one it's just not going to happen.

    How could she argue with you about something that is clearly a business expense?!? mwink.gif


    Oh, and nice shots Pathfinder. Very sharp!
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
    edited December 9, 2008
    These were all processed in ACR 5.2 - My Lightroom 2 which is current on updates, does not recognize these RAW files yet ( darn it! )

    The files were not run through Noiseware either.

    Here is a 100% crop from one of the shots straight out of Adobe Camera RAW with no further processing whatsoever, and no noise treatment in ACR either.


    ISO 3200 f2.2 1/100th 100% crop
    433707378_YqUBg-L.jpg
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  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2008
    Well, Scott, that is a bummer. Try to get a friend to buy one and borrow it from that friend 24/7! rolleyes1.gif
    Hi there friendrolleyes1.gif
  • speedsk8rspeedsk8r Registered Users Posts: 134 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2008
    Can someone say cleaaaaaaaaaan.
  • Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2008
    Hi there friendrolleyes1.gif

    Come up to NJ sometime when I get mine! :Drolleyes1.gif
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  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2008
    Come up to NJ sometime when I get mine! :Drolleyes1.gif
    Could be a plan - let me know when you have it in your hot little hands. Maybe do an shooting walk-about in your neighborhood. Hmmm sounds like fun.
  • rednblaccrednblacc Registered Users Posts: 25 Big grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    nice shots
    "Complaining only Lessens your enjoyment in Life"- Sabirah Numan 2008 :thumb
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
    edited December 11, 2008
    Zanotti wrote:
    Jim:

    More importantly - whose photos are being displayed? Is that one of your herons?

    Perhaps a showing?


    Nice shots -


    Z

    George, I missed the reference the first time through.:D :D I tried to frame the players with a clearer background, but just did not succeed all evening.

    No, that is not one of my images. It is greenish, and not really sharp to my eye. It is one of a series of images done by a faculty member (Jim Speer ) at Indiana State University. He had some lovely work on the walls that night, but this image was not among his best IMHO.
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  • GJMPhotoGJMPhoto Registered Users Posts: 372 Major grins
    edited December 14, 2008
    Could be a plan - let me know when you have it in your hot little hands. Maybe do an shooting walk-about in your neighborhood. Hmmm sounds like fun.

    Scott,
    Don't try to hide it...just tell your wife you're going to get it and that's it...then you can spend ALL your time with Tim and "his" 5D MII and not have to go home!!!

    mwink.gif
    - Gary.
  • grimacegrimace Registered Users Posts: 1,537 Major grins
    edited December 16, 2008
    Nikolai wrote:
    Nice shootn', Jim! thumb.gif
    I'm getting really green-envy with all you 5D2-enabled folks..
    Must... get.. moneys....rolleyes1.gif

    I agree. Nice work. Thanks for showing us what the 5D II can do.
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