Wowsa, my hats off to everyone...There are some excellent entries in this round....Hmmmmmm sort of like goes to show what one can do when we don't have the use of Photo shop eh? but I have to say, I did miss my Photo Shop for those little tweaks..:ivar
Good luck to everyone in DSS 14, but most of all to the Judges!!
Donna
You're only as good as your next photo....
One day, I started writing, not knowing that I had chained myself for life to a noble but merciless master. When God hands you a gift, he also hands you a whip; and the whip is intended solely for self-flagellation...I'm here alone in my dark madness, all by myself with my deck of cards --- and, of course, the whip God gave me." Truman Capote
Yes, I have the images over there, but have not yet put the captions in. I have to go to my daughter's ballet recital now, so I will work on that later this evening. Patience, please!
Yes, I have the images over there, but have not yet put the captions in. I have to go to my daughter's ballet recital now, so I will work on that later this evening. Patience, please!
If this gallery is set up for general access like the new ones will be, is it any help if we go in and add our own information? Obviously, if that's more complicated then scratch the idea, but if if it helps out, just say the word
If this gallery is set up for general access like the new ones will be, is it any help if we go in and add our own information? Obviously, if that's more complicated then scratch the idea, but if if it helps out, just say the word
That'd be a good idea, less work for the admin. But it'd have to be able to only add info for your own picture, and not everyone else's. I don't know how that would be possible though.
That'd be a good idea, less work for the admin. But it'd have to be able to only add info for your own picture, and not everyone else's. I don't know how that would be possible though.
Emily, DoctorIt, et al, do work their butts off to make our lives easier. I think once they've all implemented the new changes the entire process will be much easier for everyone across the board.
anonymous images?
A good point is raised here about having names with images. Its nice to place a name with an image, especially as people get to know each other through multiple rounds and feedback threads.
But does knowing who took the picture influence votes? A couple of rounds back a judge talked about covering the column of names to be impartial. But that impartiality does not exist for the final polling votes. Some people may not feel this contest is that 'serious', but I just raise the point to say that, even if unintentional, it changes things when everyone knows who they're voting for. Maybe it would be a good idea to remove the names just for the feedback and polling.
"The point in life isn't to arrive at our final destination well preserved and in pristine condition, but rather to slide in sideways yelling.....Holy cow, what a ride."
DSS #14 (Still Life) Feedback
Okay guys, your feedback gallery for this round is now live (and captioned!).
Please, continue to contribute to this community by offering feedback for your peers. It matters not how experienced you feel you are, all opinions are valid!
A good point is raised here about having names with images. Its nice to place a name with an image, especially as people get to know each other through multiple rounds and feedback threads.
But does knowing who took the picture influence votes? A couple of rounds back a judge talked about covering the column of names to be impartial. But that impartiality does not exist for the final polling votes. Some people may not feel this contest is that 'serious', but I just raise the point to say that, even if unintentional, it changes things when everyone knows who they're voting for. Maybe it would be a good idea to remove the names just for the feedback and polling.
-Mark
I have often thought the same thoughts...and always hoped that people when voting kept to integrity, and voted because of merit, and not just cuz a person was their friend.
When you stop and ponder, although photos could be posted anonymously, what would prevent a person from informing their friends thru private correspondence that "#19 Is My Entry" , again Faith has to step in, and you have to continue to hope that people have integrity and honestly are voting for Merit of Work and not just cuz someone is their friend, sometimes this does not happen, because afterall people are human, and again you can only have faith and hope.
Peace
Donna P.
You're only as good as your next photo....
One day, I started writing, not knowing that I had chained myself for life to a noble but merciless master. When God hands you a gift, he also hands you a whip; and the whip is intended solely for self-flagellation...I'm here alone in my dark madness, all by myself with my deck of cards --- and, of course, the whip God gave me." Truman Capote
voting
Sometimes a person might vote for someone's image not because they want to do their friend a favor, but simply because they're invested in that image because they got involved in a feedback thread with that image.
Of course, the feedback threads are very valuable in themselves, and I'm here to improve my photography and be social, and if I'm lucky maybe I'll win. So I guess at the end of the day I like the way its set up and I try to pick the best picture on merit, regardless of who's image it is.
I could go along with removing the name from the image title in the voting threads. I've been around here long enough that I know the work of quite a few of the regulars. What happens is we get to know and expect a certain quality level from an individual, maybe even rooting for them. I don't know how to remove any "expectation-bias" from this without removing the artist's name from the very original entry. I just don't know if it can be done without some major change in gallery programming.
What I do know is that Doc and Emily are listening and are always ready to make the changes that can be done when they make sense, even if Doc's are upside-down. In the meantime, rest assured that MY opinion is totally impartial and unaffected by anyone's past performance!
I could go along with removing the name from the image title in the voting threads. I've been around here long enough that I know the work of quite a few of the regulars. What happens is we get to know and expect a certain quality level from an individual, maybe even rooting for them. I don't know how to remove any "expectation-bias" from this without removing the artist's name from the very original entry. I just don't know if it can be done without some major change in gallery programming.
What I do know is that Doc and Emily are listening and are always ready to make the changes that can be done when they make sense, even if Doc's are upside-down. In the meantime, rest assured that MY opinion is totally impartial and unaffected by anyone's past performance!
On a different topic... I was lucky to get my final, and I think best, image submitted. At about 10pm PST, I fell asleep without not updating the final pick. Somehow, my room mate woke me up at 3:40 am (20 minutes before the thread closed) and asked me if I updated to my new pick. I had to rush out, read a few responses and decide what photo to submit and actually submit it. I was worried I would get it in ontime. Just glad I got woke up! Phew!
Comments
Here.
DOH!!
http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/6838416_fqiE5#P-8-12
Ah well - I guess that'll keep the images anonymous for judging purposes!!
ETA: I keep posting at the same time as everybody else and thus adding useless (or at least redundant) posts. Sorry!
I think the titles are important.
http://danielplumer.com/
Facebook Fan Page
http://lrichters.smugmug.com
Some wonderful stuff out there. Makes me want to pull mine.
S.C.
Good luck to everyone in DSS 14, but most of all to the Judges!!
Donna
4000% agree... My title was an INTEGRAL part of my photo.
I noticed that the title wasn't there. I think they should be. If no one else wants theirs, I at least want mine. Thank you.
I had fun doing this challenge. It was my first one, and it most certainly pushed my skills and ideas.
Thank you all for the input you gave me.
OneTwoFiftieth | Portland, Oregon | Modern Portraiture
My Equipment:
Bodies: Canon 50D, Canon EOS 1
Lenses: Canon 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5, Canon 24-105mm f/4L IS, Canon 50mm f/1.4, Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro, Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8
Lighting: Canon 580EXII, Canon 420 EX, 12" Reflector, Pocket Wizard Plus II (3), AB800 (3), Large Softbox
Stability: Manfrotto 190CXPRO3 Tripod, Manfrotto 488RC4 Ball Head, Manfrotto 679B Monopod
Yes, I have the images over there, but have not yet put the captions in. I have to go to my daughter's ballet recital now, so I will work on that later this evening. Patience, please!
Thanks Emily. No sweat
http://danielplumer.com/
Facebook Fan Page
If this gallery is set up for general access like the new ones will be, is it any help if we go in and add our own information? Obviously, if that's more complicated then scratch the idea, but if if it helps out, just say the word
That'd be a good idea, less work for the admin. But it'd have to be able to only add info for your own picture, and not everyone else's. I don't know how that would be possible though.
OneTwoFiftieth | Portland, Oregon | Modern Portraiture
My Equipment:
Bodies: Canon 50D, Canon EOS 1
Lenses: Canon 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5, Canon 24-105mm f/4L IS, Canon 50mm f/1.4, Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro, Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8
Lighting: Canon 580EXII, Canon 420 EX, 12" Reflector, Pocket Wizard Plus II (3), AB800 (3), Large Softbox
Stability: Manfrotto 190CXPRO3 Tripod, Manfrotto 488RC4 Ball Head, Manfrotto 679B Monopod
Emily, DoctorIt, et al, do work their butts off to make our lives easier.
http://lrichters.smugmug.com
They sure do!
A good point is raised here about having names with images. Its nice to place a name with an image, especially as people get to know each other through multiple rounds and feedback threads.
But does knowing who took the picture influence votes? A couple of rounds back a judge talked about covering the column of names to be impartial. But that impartiality does not exist for the final polling votes. Some people may not feel this contest is that 'serious', but I just raise the point to say that, even if unintentional, it changes things when everyone knows who they're voting for. Maybe it would be a good idea to remove the names just for the feedback and polling.
-Mark
LiflanderPhotography.com
I did the same thing as a judge, taped a piece of paper over the left side of my monitor.
I think that when it comes time for the polling all the images should be strong enough that the names don't matter.
www.achambersphoto.com
"The point in life isn't to arrive at our final destination well preserved and in pristine condition, but rather to slide in sideways yelling.....Holy cow, what a ride."
OneTwoFiftieth | Portland, Oregon | Modern Portraiture
My Equipment:
Bodies: Canon 50D, Canon EOS 1
Lenses: Canon 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5, Canon 24-105mm f/4L IS, Canon 50mm f/1.4, Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro, Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8
Lighting: Canon 580EXII, Canon 420 EX, 12" Reflector, Pocket Wizard Plus II (3), AB800 (3), Large Softbox
Stability: Manfrotto 190CXPRO3 Tripod, Manfrotto 488RC4 Ball Head, Manfrotto 679B Monopod
Okay guys, your feedback gallery for this round is now live (and captioned!).
Please, continue to contribute to this community by offering feedback for your peers. It matters not how experienced you feel you are, all opinions are valid!
Have fun.
I have often thought the same thoughts...and always hoped that people when voting kept to integrity, and voted because of merit, and not just cuz a person was their friend.
When you stop and ponder, although photos could be posted anonymously, what would prevent a person from informing their friends thru private correspondence that "#19 Is My Entry" , again Faith has to step in, and you have to continue to hope that people have integrity and honestly are voting for Merit of Work and not just cuz someone is their friend, sometimes this does not happen, because afterall people are human, and again you can only have faith and hope.
Peace
Donna P.
Sometimes a person might vote for someone's image not because they want to do their friend a favor, but simply because they're invested in that image because they got involved in a feedback thread with that image.
Of course, the feedback threads are very valuable in themselves, and I'm here to improve my photography and be social, and if I'm lucky maybe I'll win. So I guess at the end of the day I like the way its set up and I try to pick the best picture on merit, regardless of who's image it is.
Cheers,
Mark
LiflanderPhotography.com
What I do know is that Doc and Emily are listening and are always ready to make the changes that can be done when they make sense, even if Doc's are upside-down. In the meantime, rest assured that MY opinion is totally impartial and unaffected by anyone's past performance!
www.HoofClix.com / Personal Facebook / Facebook Page
and I do believe its true.. that there are roads left in both of our shoes..
But yes, I say no names. But yes to titles.
OneTwoFiftieth | Portland, Oregon | Modern Portraiture
My Equipment:
Bodies: Canon 50D, Canon EOS 1
Lenses: Canon 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5, Canon 24-105mm f/4L IS, Canon 50mm f/1.4, Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro, Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8
Lighting: Canon 580EXII, Canon 420 EX, 12" Reflector, Pocket Wizard Plus II (3), AB800 (3), Large Softbox
Stability: Manfrotto 190CXPRO3 Tripod, Manfrotto 488RC4 Ball Head, Manfrotto 679B Monopod