Liberty redux

AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
edited December 30, 2008 in People
I reworked one image, taken at an immigrants' rights protest last year, and thought I'd give it a whirl here for comment... Thanks.

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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 23, 2008
    your FG MG & BG tella amazing story.

    what does the signs read to english??
    Aaron Nelson
  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited December 23, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    your FG MG & BG tella amazing story.

    what does the signs read to english??

    thanks Aaron

    the signs read: "Liberty and Justice for All"
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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited December 23, 2008
    Impressive work there, Angelo. Very poignant.

    Regards,
    -joel
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited December 24, 2008
    thank you Joel, I appreciate that.

    how are you doing? been a long time since Salton!
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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited December 24, 2008
    Angelo wrote:
    thank you Joel, I appreciate that.

    how are you doing? been a long time since Salton!

    I'm doing well, thanks! How are you doing? Been a long time indeed. I'd be up for another Salton Sea shoot some time. Or maybe the Mojave Desert?

    Cheers,
    -joel
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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 24, 2008
    Angelo, do you think lowering the luminosity of the top third would help this image?
    Aaron Nelson
  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited December 24, 2008
    kdog wrote:
    I'm doing well, thanks! How are you doing? Been a long time indeed. I'd be up for another Salton Sea shoot some time. Or maybe the Mojave Desert?

    Cheers,
    -joel

    I think I had my fill of the Salton Sea stench to last a lifetime but I'm open to anything else. Mojave or Joshua would be great.
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited December 24, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    Angelo, do you think lowering the luminosity of the top third would help this image?

    well, I like what's happening to the flag in the girl's hand but I do think the sky, especially the top left corner, could be toned down, I'm just not good enough with PS to do that.
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  • roentarreroentarre Registered Users Posts: 497 Major grins
    edited December 24, 2008
    Excellent shotwings.gif :ivar
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited December 26, 2008
    roentarre wrote:
    Excellent shotwings.gif :ivar

    thank you
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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 26, 2008
    Angelo wrote:
    well, I like what's happening to the flag in the girl's hand but I do think the sky, especially the top left corner, could be toned down, I'm just not good enough with PS to do that.

    if you shot this in raw then just try a little recovery in ACR...? or LR?
    image is fine as is IMO,, i just thought maybe a little less brightness up top...
    Aaron Nelson
  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited December 26, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    if you shot this in raw then just try a little recovery in ACR...? or LR?
    image is fine as is IMO,, i just thought maybe a little less brightness up top...

    I did and always shoot in RAW but I don't know what ACR or LR are. My earlier point was that to adjust the sky without affecting the rest of the image requires the use of masks or filters ot some such thing and I don't know how to do any of that. I'm terrible with PS other than the most basic adjustments.
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  • Ed911Ed911 Registered Users Posts: 1,306 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2008
    Here's my take on Photoshop post processing for this shot. Since you said that you don't have much experience, I thought you might like to see what someone else thought might look good versus just being told.


    Your original...very good by the way...it is deserving of publication...
    443865590_DbShN-L.jpg

    My post processing...darkened the sky with burn tool...adjusted the exposure and contrast...and sharpened. All in CS3. As you can see, you don't have to shoot everything in RAW to make some very nice adjustments...
    443865549_pyjM8-L.jpg

    Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing.
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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2008
    hey Angelo,
    what raw processor/conversion do you use?
    im not talking about layers, though they are handy...im talking about recovery of highlights...there is a tool for that in adobe raw and lightroom.
    Aaron Nelson
  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited December 29, 2008
    Ed911 wrote:
    ...darkened the sky with burn tool...


    burn tool. I'll have to practice with that. Thanks.

    .
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited December 29, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    hey Angelo,
    what raw processor/conversion do you use?
    im not talking about layers, though they are handy...im talking about recovery of highlights...there is a tool for that in adobe raw and lightroom.


    headscratch.gif

    If you mean what I think you mean... I use CS2
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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 30, 2008
    ok, then when you use bridge to open a raw image thats ACR...
    (at least thats how it is for me)

    when opening a raw file using ACR there is a recovery slider...maybe that will help...or maybe not...

    have fun learning all this pp stuff, it will never end....
    Aaron Nelson
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,990 moderator
    edited December 30, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    ok, then when you use bridge to open a raw image thats ACR...
    (at least thats how it is for me)

    when opening a raw file using ACR there is a recovery slider...maybe that will help...or maybe not...

    have fun learning all this pp stuff, it will never end....

    Actually, the recovery slider was introduced into ACR with CS3. Adobe does not make new features available in older versions. :cry
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited December 30, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    ok, then when you use bridge to open a raw image thats ACR...
    (at least thats how it is for me)

    when opening a raw file using ACR there is a recovery slider...maybe that will help...or maybe not...

    have fun learning all this pp stuff, it will never end....

    I don't use "bridge" and what does "ACR" mean?
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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,990 moderator
    edited December 30, 2008
    Angelo wrote:
    I don't use "bridge" and what does "ACR" mean?

    ACR = Adobe Camera Raw. It's the RAW converter that is supplied with Photoshop.
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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 30, 2008
    Richard wrote:
    Actually, the recovery slider was introduced into ACR with CS3. Adobe does not make new features available in older versions. :cry

    :D Richard i hope you never become weary of correcting me all the time..., sorry Angelo, ..(its been a while since i used cs2 and i tend to forget alot)
    and also, i dont mean to make anything difficult.....i think it just comes natural for meeek7.gif
    Aaron Nelson
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