Colours reading wrong in Smugmug??

WeidotcomWeidotcom Registered Users Posts: 93 Big grins
edited January 4, 2009 in SmugMug Support
I've only recently encountered this problem after my most recent upload of images.

My colour profiles of my pics are all in Adobe RGB. After uploading my images to Smugmug, the colours appear over-saturated and very red. I thought my browser (google chrome/IE7) was stuffing up so I opened the images using those browsers in individual windows and the picture appeared fine. I then uploaded them on my Flickr and the colours were fine too. Here is an example:

In Smugmug:
http://www.wlhengphotography.smugmug.com/gallery/6927305_ovThH#447676883_43oAU

In Flickr:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3113/3161996011_083fe436e5_b.jpg

This has only happened today. Nothing has been changed on my computer either. Please help Ta!

Wei

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2009
    Weidotcom wrote:
    My colour profiles of my pics are all in Adobe RGB.

    Hi, please use sRGB for the web -it's the color space for web images, and for our lab for prints.

    http://www.smugmug.com/help/srgb-versus-adobe-rgb-1998

    All will be fine then :D
  • WeidotcomWeidotcom Registered Users Posts: 93 Big grins
    edited January 3, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    Hi, please use sRGB for the web -it's the color space for web images, and for our lab for prints.

    http://www.smugmug.com/help/srgb-versus-adobe-rgb-1998

    All will be fine then :D

    But I'm sure your website allows for Adobe RGB just like Flickr? What is bugging me is that it was working perfectly fine before and now the colours have gone haywire. My printing lab in Oz uses Adobe RGB. I've tried converting to sRGB and the colours still look off. I'm just bummed about the fact that it was working everyday up until today :(
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2009
    Weidotcom wrote:
    But I'm sure your website allows for Adobe RGB just like Flickr? What is bugging me is that it was working perfectly fine before and now the colours have gone haywire. My printing lab in Oz uses Adobe RGB. I've tried converting to sRGB and the colours still look off. I'm just bummed about the fact that it was working everyday up until today :(

    We support JPGS in sRGB, that's the colorspace of the web.

    Did you change browsers recently? ear.gif
  • JDouglasJDouglas Registered Users Posts: 42 Big grins
    edited January 3, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    Hi, please use sRGB for the web -it's the color space for web images, and for our lab for prints.

    http://www.smugmug.com/help/srgb-versus-adobe-rgb-1998

    All will be fine then :D

    Smugmug site says that Adobe RGB images will be automatically converted to sRGB.

    ?? What's the story there? Does that still work?

    http://www.smugmug.com/help/upload-photos Under "Does Colorspace Matter?"

    JD
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2009
    JDouglas wrote:
    Smugmug site says that Adobe RGB images will be automatically converted to sRGB.

    ?? What's the story there? Does that still work?

    http://www.smugmug.com/help/upload-photos Under "Does Colorspace Matter?"

    JD
    We do indeed convert them.
  • WeidotcomWeidotcom Registered Users Posts: 93 Big grins
    edited January 3, 2009
    If you convert automatically, that being the case my colours shoulda been fine? Perhaps my uploader stuffed up?

    Only thing I could think of that I did differently was install my printer driver...but didn't think it could have an affect on my images in smugmug :S
  • WeidotcomWeidotcom Registered Users Posts: 93 Big grins
    edited January 3, 2009
    Hmm, just realised, after converting to sRGB in photoshop the pic appears oversaturated like how Smugmug is showing it. Dammit why now :(

    I just don't recall my images being like this till now. Was there some kind of recent update to the smugmug website that now my images are all sRGB converted? Is there an option to keep it to Adobe RGB? There must be some accomodation for those that work in Adobe RGB...my browsers are fine, flickr is fine, picasa views it fine, its just the smugmug website that can't read my colours...well again, repeating myself...it was fine before but not anymore...can't think of any other options/solutions...
  • ashishpandeyashishpandey Registered Users Posts: 100 Big grins
    edited January 4, 2009
    Weidotcom wrote:
    Hmm, just realised, after converting to sRGB in photoshop the pic appears oversaturated like how Smugmug is showing it. Dammit why now :(

    I just don't recall my images being like this till now. Was there some kind of recent update to the smugmug website that now my images are all sRGB converted? Is there an option to keep it to Adobe RGB? There must be some accomodation for those that work in Adobe RGB...my browsers are fine, flickr is fine, picasa views it fine, its just the smugmug website that can't read my colours...well again, repeating myself...it was fine before but not anymore...can't think of any other options/solutions...

    Well, if sRGB conversion at your end is also saturating the colors, why would the problem be at smugmug end? Most browsers are not color managed, so the only color space they would show correctly is sRGB. So it is in good taste that smugmug would create smugmug sizes in sRGB (as has been the case from as long as I know).

    Adobe RGB should be accomodated is a request for browser developers. The browsers are not fine. They cannot display Adobe colorspace correctly, and that is why everyone asks everyone else to use sRGB on the web

    I would say something has changed at your end, and the smugmug engine matching PS is a proof of that. Some things you can look at:
    Did your printer driver mess with color profiles on your computer?
    Is there anything on your worflow that messes up profiles (ACR camera profiles, or anything stripping profiles from your image?)
    Convert to profile (which intent?) v/s assign profile issues?

    We will go nowhere if you say nothing changed and smugmug also say nothing changed. One of you have to pause and take a look again on what may have changed

    BTW, it may well just be that flickr is reducing saturation on a non color managed browser (which is very much likely if it is not doing anything with the profile). See how many people have a problem with that:
    http://www.flickr.com/search/forum/?q=saturation
    Ashish
    http://photography.ashishpandey.com
    smugmug ID: ashishpandey (but I prefer my domain URL above :D)
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