Amtrak Photo Contestant Arrested By Amtrak Police

Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
edited May 16, 2009 in The Big Picture
Funny: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F04%2F1846229&from=rss
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited January 4, 2009
    Manfr3d wrote:
    Funny: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F04%2F1846229&from=rss


    Man, they are so old-fashioned. 8x10s only, no digital submissions.

    Also, I moved this to Big Picture.
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  • Frog LadyFrog Lady Registered Users Posts: 1,091 Major grins
    edited January 4, 2009
    DavidTO wrote:
    Man, they are so old-fashioned. 8x10s only, no digital submissions.

    it's amazing how quickly things become "old-fashioned". If you noticed the date of the contest, it was May 2003. Betcha if Amtrak had that contest these days, it would all be digital mwink.gif

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  • RogersDARogersDA Registered Users Posts: 3,502 Major grins
    edited January 4, 2009
    The blog used the link to the 2003 contest. The 2009 Calendar Amtrak Contest is on Amtrak's site, but the contest is closed. It still required 8x10 images. eek7.gif

    The blogger may have been hoping to get a shot for the 2010 Calendar - should Amtrak actually hold that contest.

    And the 2009 contest states
    Stay in public access areas such as stations, sidewalks or parking lots. All participants agree to assume the risk of harm and release Amtrak from all liability for personal injury and loss of property. Photographers are reminded that railroad tracks, trestles, yards and equipment are private property and that trespassers are subject to arrest and fines. Some stations served by Amtrak trains require advance permission for photography.
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  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited January 5, 2009
    Yea, but how can you be arrested for taking a photograph? Is there a law against it or something?
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,938 moderator
    edited January 6, 2009
    Manfr3d wrote:
    Yea, but how can you be arrested for taking a photograph? Is there a law agaist it or something?
    National Security don't you know lol3.gif
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  • NomadRipNomadRip Registered Users Posts: 180 Major grins
    edited February 3, 2009
    Colbert had him on the show :D



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  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited February 3, 2009
    NomadRip wrote:
    Colbert had him on the show :D

    <object height="296" width="512">

    <embed src="http://www.hulu.com/embed/-mThqblaBqUTGjZORQYfww/535/877&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" height="296" width="512"></object>
    Dang, it says that I cannot access the video it from outside the USA .. how was the show?
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  • LlywellynLlywellyn Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,186 Major grins
    edited February 3, 2009
    NomadRip wrote:
    Colbert had him on the show :D

    Awesome. rolleyes1.gif
  • JAGJAG Super Moderators Posts: 9,088 moderator
    edited February 3, 2009
    that clip is hilarious! Poor guy.
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  • BlakerBlaker Registered Users Posts: 294 Major grins
    edited February 3, 2009
    Manfr3d wrote:
    Funny: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F04%2F1846229&from=rss



    And here's the followup:

    http://nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2009/01/amtrak02.html
  • ToshidoToshido Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
    edited February 4, 2009
    ian408 wrote:
    National Security don't you know lol3.gif

    Careful railways could and should be considered national infrastructure. And photographing national infrastructure could be a threat to national security, I believe.
    need to refresh on photography laws now. :)
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  • manboumanbou Registered Users Posts: 105 Major grins
    edited February 4, 2009
    The video at this link works even outside the US clap.gif

    http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/217341/february-02-2009/nailed--em---amtrak-photographer

    May take a few seconds to load up.
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  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited February 4, 2009
    If we go by "could be a threat" we're opening a whole new can of worms.
    http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/01/helping_the_ter.html
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  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited February 4, 2009
    manbou wrote:
    The video at this link works even outside the US clap.gif

    http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/217341/february-02-2009/nailed--em---amtrak-photographer

    May take a few seconds to load up.

    Ahahahaha! Great! :D
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  • darryldarryl Registered Users Posts: 997 Major grins
    edited May 13, 2009
    Apparently the guy got a five-figure settlement out of it:

    http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/19/amtrak-arrestee-received-five-figure-settlement-after-colbert-segment-aired/
    The statement came from Todd Maisel, vice president of the NYPPA, who appeared on The Colbert Report with Kerzic earlier this month.

    ...
    The day after that segment aired, Duane Kerzic got a five-figure settlement,” Maisel says.

    Now I'm not saying I want to go through the pain and hassle of getting arrested (especially for my lousy photos), but assuming the "five-figures" start with a "5", maybe I should think about it next time. Also -- I'm printing my Photographer's Rights card right now...

    BTW, Duane Kerzic, actually hosts his photos here on SmugMug but has removed all the text that used to describe the incident. Galleries related to the incident are here:

    http://photos.duanek.name/No%20Comment%20Problems

    I recall that in other published interviews (and in the text that used to accompany that gallery) he mentioned he was using a LensBaby to shoot. Cool stuff.
  • darryldarryl Registered Users Posts: 997 Major grins
    edited May 13, 2009
    Oh, and around the same time that Amtrak (?) reportedly settled with Kerzic, another guy (an off-duty MTA worker, oh the irony) was arrested for taking photos of the number 2 train (MTA) in the Bronx:

    http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/content_display/photo-news/photojournalism/e3i81e87508e923955f7a24e23224c586fa

    But hey, lest New Yorkers have all the fun, apparently SFO has its share of overzealous transit employees:

    http://www.whatimseeing.com/2009/05/06/what-is-munis-photography-policy/

    Although, to be fair, I think this guy might just have not wanted *his* photo taken, not the train.

    I'm almost bummed that I only have a 10-minute commute by car. ;-P
  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited May 16, 2009
    I was under the impression that one is allowed to photograph virtually anyone on on the streets, but needs permission from that person to publish that image. My experience is that many people believe they have a right to not be photographed on public property which is not correct. They have the right to control if and how that image can be used.
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited May 16, 2009
    Manfr3d wrote:
    I was under the impression that one is allowed to photograph virtually anyone on on the streets, but needs permission from that person to publish that image. My experience is that many people believe they have a right to not be photographed on public property which is not correct. They have the right to control if and how that image can be used.

    Well you got that partially right.

    "publishing" is not the defining issue, "commercial use" is.
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  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited May 16, 2009
    Cool, in my country even publishing requires permission due to stricter privacy laws.
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  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited May 16, 2009
    darryl wrote:
    Also -- I'm printing my Photographer's Rights card right now...

    Wanna share this card with us???:D
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 16, 2009
    Art Scott wrote:
    Wanna share this card with us???:D
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited May 16, 2009
    Art Scott wrote:
    Wanna share this card with us???:D

    Art:

    It is and has been available in our Photographer's Resource sticky thread for more than a year. thumb.gif
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