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Help needed ...interior architecture

BlueHoseJacketBlueHoseJacket Registered Users Posts: 509 Major grins
edited January 31, 2009 in Technique
I work for a genral contractor and I been asked to take some pictures of some our projects for an upcoming presentation (we are a small company and have never really put together a marketing brochure with photos of our work). Unfortunatley we do not have time to go the professional route and will probably only print the pictures for this presentation on a color laser jet printer.

I indicated that I do not have the equipment required to get the wide angle shots or lighting the owner is looking for in these shots. We do interior office construction so I will be shooting inside and it will typically be a shot of the reception area of a tenant space. I suggested that we rent a wide angle lense for the shots...the owner agreed and indicated that if the shots came out OK ...he would buy me a lense for future shots of our work:barb.


My questions:

What lense should I rent? I am shooting with a Canon XT (I was looking at the Canon EF S 10-22mm, f3.5-4.5 USM?

I do not have any off camera flash equipment...but most of the lobbies will be fairley well lighted. Will I be OK? or am I wasting my time and his?

Any suggested camera settings (in general) for this type of work?

THANKS FOR ANY COMMENTS!

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    SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2009
    Where should I start with this?

    OK, I think your industry is pretty competitive, and with the economy probably more so.

    Let me ask you one question: If you were the buyer, and one bidder came in with poorly lit, distorted image printed on color laser jet printer, lacking detail, and demonstrating a lack of quality, and a second bidder came in with well lit, , images that conveyed quality, and attention to detail, which company would jump to the top of your list?

    I'm not sure how a construction company can effectively convey to a client your competence, and high quality work, without high quality images.

    I think I would start with that premise.

    As for lens etc, I think your pretty limited with a crop camera. I think a 24 mm tilt shift would be too long. The 10-22mm might be your best choice, but you will need to remove some distortion in post processing. Next you need to shot on a tripod. Research the best time of day for any light streaming through the windows, reflections etc. Bring some white, and black sheets of foam core, (anything white or black will work) to control light, and reflections.

    That's all that comes to mind.

    Good luck!

    Sam
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    QarikQarik Registered Users Posts: 4,959 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2009
    The Tokina 11-16mm has gotten some really good reviews and is relatively cheap wrt to price/performance and is a 2.8. If you are not using high quality prints though..I imagine any old wide will do.
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    JohnBiggsJohnBiggs Registered Users Posts: 841 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2009
    I love my 10-22. The images are great. Go with it.

    John
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    kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,680 moderator
    edited January 23, 2009
    The Canon 10-22 is an excellent choice for interior shots. With a lens that wide, you can stand in a corner and get the entire room. Plus, it's got great optical quality.
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    BlueHoseJacketBlueHoseJacket Registered Users Posts: 509 Major grins
    edited January 25, 2009
    Here are a couple shots from day one our photo expedition. I ended up renting the Canon 10-22mm and have been very please with it. I am not getting everything I want ...but for the first time shooting shots like these I am fairly pleased. Please give me your thoughts/suggestions


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    Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited January 25, 2009
    Job well done
    this is the first time I have seen this thread and I am very glad that Sam did not scare you so bad it kept you from trying.......Sam did have valid points...however rules (especially photo rules) were made to be broken with the intention of acquiring good images.......And VERY GOOD IMAGES YOU DID GET!!!bowdown.gifbowbowdown.gifbowbowdown.gifthumbthumb.gifthumbthumb.gifthumb........Hopefuly your boss will see the talent and buy that lens for you......one thing you should have.....well maybe not should have......rather one thing I would have done is shot the 2nd photo with out the light over the counter on......you may want to get a ND filter (ND2, 3, or 4) to help balance the lamps that tend to glare at us at times like those:D.......over all it is a job well done......be sure and keep notes on what you did so the next time it will not be a guessing game for youthumb.gif

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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,910 moderator
    edited January 25, 2009
    I think you did pretty well for your first time. You say you're not getting what you want. Can you elaborate at what it is you'd like to add to these?

    One of the trends in architectural photography is the use of High Dynamic Range to show more features.
    You also need to watch the foreground. An example is the last lobby shot. If you could, move more camera left and back to pick up more of the chair and floor covering or move the furniture for a better shot. Also watch the White Balance. The stair (I think that's what it is) and the break room look pretty good but the last two are a tad yellow.

    That 10-22 looks like it's doing a great job for you. If you want to go wider, I'd suggest a full frame body rental. You won't be able to use the 10-22 (it's an EFS lens) but could find something similar to work with.

    Lastly, with some careful PP, you may also consider some pano shots as a way to include more of the scene. Please note, you will need some sort of panoramic gear to make this work properly.
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    BlueHoseJacketBlueHoseJacket Registered Users Posts: 509 Major grins
    edited January 29, 2009
    Thanks everyone for your comments. I am finally finished shooting the shots for this project and I am suprisingly pleased with the results. As I originally posted I was taking the shots with only the available lighting in the rooms and natural light when available. My biggest obstacle was my lack of experience...I have never taken these type shots and am typically a "snapshooter". So thanks for the encouraging comments.

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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,910 moderator
    edited January 29, 2009
    No problems with the magnet in the first one?
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    BlueHoseJacketBlueHoseJacket Registered Users Posts: 509 Major grins
    edited January 30, 2009
    I stayed at the door way and never went into the room...it did make me a bit nervous.
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,910 moderator
    edited January 30, 2009
    I stayed at the door way and never went into the room...it did make me a bit nervous.
    I don't know what the field strength is but the effects reach beyond the room for many of the larger systems. By the look of it, it's a superconducting magnet--pretty cool stuff. I worked for a company that received the first FDA approval for MRI systems.
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    SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited January 30, 2009
    I'm with Art.........I am glad I didn't scare you off! These are good.

    The distortion is pretty minor, (in my opinion), and can be adjusted if you wanted to spend the time, but I'm not sure anyone but us would notice. Some of the shots could use a white balance adjustment.

    Here is one I adjusted a little, I do hope you don't mind.

    A note, these are soooo much better than my first attempt!

    I think the room may have looked more like this:

    Sam
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    BlueHoseJacketBlueHoseJacket Registered Users Posts: 509 Major grins
    edited January 31, 2009
    Sam,

    mine are good only because I had Dgrin to lead the way...otherwise...I am lost in a sea of confusion.

    I agree, MOST of the shots I got were a little off on white balance and I have no problem with the adjustments you made.
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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,697 moderator
    edited January 31, 2009
    Sam wrote:
    I'm with Art.........I am glad I didn't scare you off! These are good.

    The distortion is pretty minor, (in my opinion), and can be adjusted if you wanted to spend the time, but I'm not sure anyone but us would notice. Some of the shots could use a white balance adjustment.

    Here is one I adjusted a little, I do hope you don't mind.

    A note, these are soooo much better than my first attempt!

    I think the room may have looked more like this:

    Sam

    Sam, I am sure your white balance is better technically, but I kinda like the warmth in the OP's version myselfclap.gif


    Just goes to show how subjective WB really is.

    I think for someone's first effort at architectural shots these are really good too!
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