F-spot and tags/keywords

mchasalmchasal Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
edited February 22, 2009 in SmugMug Support
I'm evaluating SmugMug now and I'm very impressed with it so far. However, I have run into a problem that I haven't been able to get around.

I'm using the F-spot photo manager under Ubuntu Linux 8.10. I can successfully export my pictures from F-spot to Smugmug, but the tags are not preserved. Here is an image that has 2 tags in F-spot "Pets" and "DuboisRdBuddies":
http://chasal.smugmug.com/gallery/7405059_fG2Xe#477082343_z8JVA

In SmugMug, it only shows the keyword, "imm", which is derived from the original filename. If I download the image and view it in the default image viewer (Eye of Gnome), it successfully finds the keywords in the metadata. Specifically, they are in dc:subject[1] and [2] of the XMP IPTC data.

This doesn't appear to be the standard place that SmugMug expects to find the keyword data, or there is some other problem.

I've searched pretty extensively for this problem and haven't found anything helpful, so I'm appealing to the Heroes and users here for some help.

Thanks

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2009
    mchasal wrote:
    This doesn't appear to be the standard place that SmugMug expects to find the keyword data, or there is some other problem.

    Sure there is - the IPTC keywords field :D
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  • mchasalmchasal Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited February 20, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    Sure there is - the IPTC keywords field :D

    Right, I understand that there is a place that SmugMug is looking for them, but it appears that F-spot is putting them in a different field(dc:subject). I'm not sure if this completely non-standard, though at least EoG finds them there. What I'm wondering is if it's possible/reasonable for SmugMug to look in these fields as well since F-spot is putting them there and it is a pretty popular application in the Linux world.

    I completely understand if it's not desired, but just looking for some insight or possible ways around the issue.

    Thanks again
  • mchasalmchasal Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited February 20, 2009
    Ok, thinking about this a bit more (and not at 1am ;) ) It should be fairly trivial to put together a script (or maybe an F-spot plugin) that will copy the keywords from where F-spot puts them to where SmugMug would like them. It would certainly be nice to have SmugMug find the keywords where they are, but it will hardly be a deal breaker for me.
  • darryldarryl Registered Users Posts: 997 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2009
    Examples for using exiftool to copy keywords from dc:subject to iptc:keywords:

    http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/from-f-spot-to-iphoto-transfering-keywords-tips-tricks/
  • mchasalmchasal Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited February 22, 2009
    darryl wrote:
    Examples for using exiftool to copy keywords from dc:subject to iptc:keywords:

    http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/from-f-spot-to-iphoto-transfering-keywords-tips-tricks/

    Thanks darryl, I did come across that and it almost works perfectly. Just needed to add the -b (or -sep on newer versions of exiftool) flag to prevent it from combining multiple tags into one multi-word tag.

    "exiftool -overwrite_original -r -P -b -"IPTC:Keywords<XMP:subject" ~/Photos/2009/01/"

    Took about 5 minutes to tag ~900 photos on my not-so-fast machine, which is perfectly acceptable.

    Thanks for all the help everyone, I'm still curious if it would be possible for SmugMug to look in the subject field for keywords to save this extra step, but this is a workable solution.
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