Just wanted to share

Dooginfif20

removed...

redleash

I like your B&W treatments, but without the "pop". I think you could have a very classic and classy image in straight B&W, maybe with a bit more contrast. The red rose doesn't do anything for me. I'm interested to see what other comments you get--this is a good way to learn, for you and the rest of us.

Most importantly, CONGRATULATIONS on your recent marriage!!! I wish you and your husband many happy years together.

Dooginfif20

redleash thanks for the comments!! I like them all so to hear someone else's point of view helps out a lot!

Thanks for the congrats! Oh and by the way I am the husband and she is my lovely wife.

jeffreaux2

The centered composition with the busy background doesn't really work well for me to begin with. The first BW conversion looks better to me....the one "with pop" appears rather flat. I could do without the red flowers in both BW versions. Selective color always looks rather cheesy to me. It says to me...."I have photoshop!"....and thats about it.

On another note....

I find it pretty low that you would post photographs ...and your versions of edits that were taken by a fellow photographer in an online photography forum....without even giving the photographer credit. I was under the impression that posting work which is not your own was forbidden on DGRIN.

Dooginfif20

Well I was unaware of that. I wasn't trying to diss or discredit another photographer. I had simply just played with what was given to me. I will just remove everything...

Matthew Saville

Dooginfif20 wrote:

Well I was unaware of that. I wasn't trying to diss or discredit another photographer. I had simply just played with what was given to me. I will just remove everything...

This is something worth discussing, actually. Did you sign any kind of contract with your wedding photographer?

There are two responsibilities at play here:

1.) The client / couple's responsibility to honor a photographer's request, and/or credit them IF the photographer, well, requests it.

2.) The photographer's responsibility to clearly explain what the client is allowed to do, have a contract with such rules laid out, etc. I assume that many photographers and clients these days are a little uncertain in this area; they either don't understand the terms or the photographer failed to put it in the contract, or to have a contract at all...


Personally for example, my clients are really welcome to do whatever they want with the photos I deliver, and it says so in their contract, and they *may* post them without incessantly mentioning who took them, just as long as they are not re-selling them or claiming that they or someone else took them. And I also politely request that people ask me before they post "significantly altered" versions of their images. Usually, you see, I'm the kind of guy who really doesn't mind doing a few extra minutes of (free) work for a client like making a B&W conversion for a few of their favorite images, etc. etc. because I like to have my work represented properly...


Take care,
=Matt=

Dooginfif20

Honestly there was no contract. Our wedding and reception were on two different dates and he provided us with a cd of both occasions. I had told him that I had gone in and did some editing and he said "great". At no point in this post was trying to discredit or bash on him as a photographer since he has over 25 years of experience. All I wanted to do was share with everyone my wedding pics and which version everyone liked the most. I wasn't posting it as my work and I wasn't posting it as a "hey look I can do a better job". I feel as if it was taken the wrong way hence the reason I removed my post. I felt bad that someone saw it as a low blow to a fellow photographer. I am new to photography and I do nothing but learn on this website. I appreciate everyones opinion on here and I just feel bad that it was taken as me being rude or disrespectful.

redleash

Speaking only for myself, I did not take it as you claiming credit for the pics or as you bad-mouthing the photographer. You said you were trying to be creative by using Photoshop on your wedding pics and that's the only way I read it. Presumptively, if you liked one of your edits and printed it, you would only do so for your own use and would hang it in your house.

Copyright and credit are issues of real and obvious importance to photographers, especially with the ease of posting (and stealing) on the Internet. That's why you will get a quick reaction from folks on here sometimes. Don't take it personally; you did not know it was a problem, and it appears your photographer didn't consider it to be one, or he/she would have done what Matt says and addressed it upfront. I think Matt has some good info for all of us.

I hope this doesn't dissuade you from either trying out stuff in Photoshop or from sharing your photos with us. I'm looking forward to seeing some of your work. You ought to have some good chances to shoot some ships (I'm assuming from the uniform in your pic that you are in the Navy!)

Cheers,
Lauren