Learned my lesson...

DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
edited June 2, 2005 in Technique
Well, I have to come out and admit it...

when shooting with a flash, I am exceedingly lazy. I put the camera on program mode and shoot away.

Bad idea, for the most part. I was shooting my cousin's daughter's (what does that make her to me?) birthday yesterday.

Anyway, I ended up with a lot of soft shots, since when you set the camera like that you get a shutter speed of 1/60. And let me tell you, those kids are moving fast.

So, as a cautionary tale, for all you learning photophiles out there, in a situation like that set your camera (20D, in my case) to shutter priority, and make sure that you are working at a fast enough shutter to keep the images from getting soft. Then the flash is just fill, not being depended on for the entire exposure.

Here's an example of a shot that could have been great, but I flubbed it:

23315217-M.jpg

It looks like he's posing, but let me tell you, he was in that position for a split second. They were moving fast.

and believe me, there are much worse that I didn't even bother to process.
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  • GREAPERGREAPER Registered Users Posts: 3,113 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2005
    Just another note on using shutter priority. (yes, learned the hard way). Check your camera's max sync speed. If you set the shutter higher than that you will have underexposed bars where the shutter is blocking part of the frame when the flash goes off.
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2005
    David old boy, I reckon that's an excellent shot. thumb.gif
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2005
    GREAPER wrote:
    Just another note on using shutter priority. (yes, learned the hard way). Check your camera's max sync speed. If you set the shutter higher than that you will have underexposed bars where the shutter is blocking part of the frame when the flash goes off.
    headscratch.gif ........................................................................thumb.gif

    So thats what that causes that. I got it quite a bit on the week-end.
  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2005
    Is there something wrong with my Monitor ?? ne_nau.gif
    I think this shot is great thumb.gif
    go right for the eyes and their crisp, skin a bit bright but he's young and it fits with the overall look.

    What's wrong with me ne_nau.gif:D
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2005
    bfjr wrote:
    Is there something wrong with my Monitor ?? ne_nau.gif
    I think this shot is great thumb.gif
    go right for the eyes and their crisp, skin a bit bright but he's young and it fits with the overall look.

    What's wrong with me ne_nau.gif:D

    That's heavy sharpening (Smart Sharpen) and the small size hides the problems. Trust me, it was very soft. And there were others that were much worse.
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2005
    wxwax wrote:
    David old boy, I reckon that's an excellent shot. thumb.gif

    Thanks, Sid ol' chum. Woulda been, not it's just OK. Well, we'll see how it holds up in print...
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2005
    I don't have a dime to my name right now, but I gotta get that sharpening thing ASAP.

    What is it? Where do I get it?

    If Andy says, "OOF", does it sharpen? I got a very clear bird, Osprey shot up, but there have been some I would have died to save. They were not that bad, but you people here "look" at everything, and all it takes is a bit of a soft photo in a set, and the whole set goes sour. That is MHO.

    So, again, what is this miracle worker? Please?

    Very good photo.

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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2005
    ginger_55 wrote:
    I don't have a dime to my name right now, but I gotta get that sharpening thing ASAP.

    What is it? Where do I get it?

    If Andy says, "OOF", does it sharpen? I got a very clear bird, Osprey shot up, but there have been some I would have died to save. They were not that bad, but you people here "look" at everything, and all it takes is a bit of a soft photo in a set, and the whole set goes sour. That is MHO.

    So, again, what is this miracle worker? Please?

    Very good photo.

    Smile, ginger

    It's part of CS2.
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  • MuskyDudeMuskyDude Registered Users Posts: 1,508 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2005
    David, you can chaulk this one up to another one of those "I think it sucks" but others see something right away shots. ne_nau.gif In this case, to me it's the subjects eyes. Immediately your drawn into them, there's a definate quality to them that makes this a very effective shot. Maybe not great in yours, but effective in other's. Mitusense.


    AJ
  • NetgardenNetgarden Registered Users Posts: 829 Major grins
    edited June 2, 2005
    I agree! I wish my bad shots looked like that! Love the eyes and color too.
    Thanks for the info.thumb.gif

    MuskyDude wrote:
    David, you can chaulk this one up to another one of those "I think it sucks" but others see something right away shots. ne_nau.gif In this case, to me it's the subjects eyes. Immediately your drawn into them, there's a definate quality to them that makes this a very effective shot. Maybe not great in yours, but effective in other's. Mitusense.


    AJ
  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited June 2, 2005
    DavidTO wrote:
    I was shooting my cousin's daughter's (what does that make her to me?) birthday yesterday.
    assuming you're speaking of your first cousin, the child is; your first cousin, once removed. That child and your children are second cousins.
  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited June 2, 2005
    DavidTO wrote:

    Here's an example of a shot that could have been great, but I flubbed it:

    23315217-M.jpg
    I don't know... I think it's a very nice shot!
  • Steve CaviglianoSteve Cavigliano Super Moderators Posts: 3,599 moderator
    edited June 2, 2005
    ginger_55 wrote:
    I don't have a dime to my name right now, but I gotta get that sharpening thing ASAP.

    What is it? Where do I get it?

    If Andy says, "OOF", does it sharpen? I got a very clear bird, Osprey shot up, but there have been some I would have died to save. They were not that bad, but you people here "look" at everything, and all it takes is a bit of a soft photo in a set, and the whole set goes sour. That is MHO.

    So, again, what is this miracle worker? Please?

    Very good photo.

    Smile, ginger
    Ginger,
    There aren't any free lunches and there are no miracle working software programs. If a shot is soft, some 3rd party softwares can make it better. If the shot is OOF, it's OOF forever ne_nau.gif Don't waste your valuable $ thinking that there's software out there that will fix this problem. Also, as David mentions, these sharpening softwares also take a toll on the image. Shrunk down to small sizes it won't be as noticeable, but it won't look good at, say, an 8X10 print size.

    Try downloading Focus Magic here You get 10 free saves, then you'll have to buy it if you want to keep it. Use it on some of your soft images and see if you like the results. Personally, I think most of these types of sw leave the image looking blocky and noisy. That's why they can look decent at small sizes, but awful for medium to large prints.

    Steve
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