First Attempt At Night Shots

SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
edited June 7, 2005 in Landscapes
Not completely happy with these, I noticed the noise levels were quite visible, but I am really happy that even though they are noisey I am sure if I keep working at this I could do better.....so as a first attempt I am smiling :D
Skippy (Australia)

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  • 4labs4labs Registered Users Posts: 2,089 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif Wonderful! I would certainly be happy with these..
  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Awwwww Thanks 4labs
    4labs wrote:
    clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif Wonderful! I would certainly be happy with these..
    I'm not sure what setting your suppose to be in when doing night shots, so I left the camera in Aperature Priority......boosted up the ISO and fired away.

    How do you reduce the noise in night shot images when your taking them, do you know ?? ne_nau.gif

    It's only the noise I'm not pleased with :D Skippy (Australia)
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  • BigAlBigAl Registered Users Posts: 2,294 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    I can't help you with your question, but I can say I do like the second pic.

    regards
    alan
  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Thank you BigAl
    BigAl wrote:
    I can't help you with your question, but I can say I do like the second pic.

    regards alan

    Some of the lines in the sky is caused by incoming fog, and reflection of the city lights on it..........it is a very pretty place indeed, just outside of Melbourne.

    Thanks for looking......... Skippy (Australia)
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  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited June 6, 2005
    Skippy wrote:
    I'm not sure what setting your suppose to be in when doing night shots, so I left the camera in Aperature Priority......boosted up the ISO and fired away.

    How do you reduce the noise in night shot images when your taking them, do you know ?? ne_nau.gif

    It's only the noise I'm not pleased with :D Skippy (Australia)
    Hey Skippy,

    They look great for your first attempt. Perhaps you could try shooting in manual with the same aperture setting and use a few different shutter speeds and see what turns out better.

    Also, you might be interested in trying out the Incandescent WB setting, using this setting the photos take on a more blue hue.

    To reduce noise, you take several exposures and then stack them in post. It works really well, here's a couple I was taken in Melbourne a few months ago..
    http://introversion.smugmug.com/gallery/410982

    Look up Luben's post history, he's the master at nightshots or check out his website http://www.solev.net

    Cheers,

    David
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    night shooting tips
    skip

    some good tips here on dgrin, try the words "tutorial night" in the search engine, you'll find a bunch. here's one i did up on post processing

    one thing - at shoot - keep your iso on 100! of course, you'll need a tripod. whether you us m or av settings, no matter - whatever you're comfy with. usually, a bit (sometimes a lot) of negative ec is in order.

    try mlu as well

    cheers and a good effort her thumb.gif
  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Ohhhhhhh Thank you
    devbobo wrote:
    Hey Skippy,

    They look great for your first attempt. Perhaps you could try shooting in manual with the same aperture setting and use a few different shutter speeds and see what turns out better.

    Also, you might be interested in trying out the Incandescent WB setting, using this setting the photos take on a more blue hue.

    To reduce noise, you take several exposures and then stack them in post. It works really well, here's a couple I was taken in Melbourne a few months ago..
    http://introversion.smugmug.com/gallery/410982

    Look up Luben's post history, he's the master at nightshots or check out his website http://www.solev.net

    Cheers, David
    Thank you very much David, I have seen Lubins work many times, and he is quite a master at Photography....... I will try doing multiple stacks and see how that goes, and take your advice on using Manual settings.
    Thank you for your reply............ Skippy (Australia)
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  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Thanks You Mr Williams
    andy wrote:
    skip

    some good tips here on dgrin, try the words "tutorial night" in the search engine, you'll find a bunch. here's one i did up on post processing

    one thing - at shoot - keep your iso on 100! of course, you'll need a tripod. whether you us m or av settings, no matter - whatever you're comfy with. usually, a bit (sometimes a lot) of negative ec is in order.

    try mlu as well .. cheers and a good effort her thumb.gif
    Thanks Andy I will give your method a try too :D
    I really like this forum Andy, the people here are so helpful..... :D
    Thanks for the tip..........Skippy (Australia)
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  • rahmonsterrahmonster Registered Users Posts: 1,376 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    very very nice Skippy:D:D:D
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  • 4labs4labs Registered Users Posts: 2,089 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Skippy I also highly recommend a book by Lee Frost called Night and Low Light photography. I just read it it's very helpful.
  • PrezwoodzPrezwoodz Registered Users Posts: 1,147 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    I really like the shots. They look very smooth and great nighttime shots.

    There is one thing that kind of takes away from it for me though. That is the large area you have for your border and the choppy letters there. I think you should cut your border down probably by half or so and smooth the letters out so they look less pixelated. Dont want people to stare at your border instead of your picture !
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Maxine,
    If those are your *first* attempts, I could only image what you 10th will be..clap.gif
    Great work, lassie!thumb.gif
    Cheers!1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • DeeDee Registered Users Posts: 2,981 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Are you crazy girl?????
    Nikolai wrote:
    If those are your *first* attempts, I could only image what you 10th will be..clap.gif
    Great work, lassie!thumb.gif
    Cheers!1drink.gif


    I'm with Nikolai here! If those were my first attempts I'd be jumping up and down with joy!

    I especially like the second one, probably because there's more color. But you don't have blown out areas and your exposure looks great!

    Noise? well, that's always a problem. But I get noise in broad daylight! rolleyes1.gif

    You know, it seems like I've known you such a long time through that other forum, I forgot you are relatively new here! Yes, everyone is very helpful, no matter what cam you have.

    If you read the tutorials and Andy's references, and that book 4Labs mentioned, and fix the "choppy type" -- (had to chuckle at that, since I'm a graphic designer in my other life) you'll be an expert in no time at all.
  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Thanks Rahmonster
    rahmonster wrote:
    very very nice Skippy:D:D:D
    Gaaaaaaaawd it was cold out that night, lucky we had tripods cause we were both shaking and shivering as we stood waiting taking shots.

    It was fine at Williamstown, but not in Geelong, much colder by the time we got back to Geelong..........Take Care......... Skippy (Australia)
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  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Thanks 4Labs
    4labs wrote:
    Skippy I also highly recommend a book by Lee Frost called Night and Low Light photography. I just read it it's very helpful.
    I'll check that one out and see if I can get it while I'm in America, thank you for the info........Skippy (Australia)
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  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Hi Prezwoodz
    Prezwoodz wrote:
    I really like the shots. They look very smooth and great nighttime shots.

    There is one thing that kind of takes away from it for me though. That is the large area you have for your border and the choppy letters there. I think you should cut your border down probably by half or so and smooth the letters out so they look less pixelated. Dont want people to stare at your border instead of your picture !
    I need to find a better font...... I still prefer a large boarder, but I know they can do with some work as you said :D thank you for your comment.
    Skippy (Australia)
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  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Hey Nikolai
    Nikolai wrote:
    If those are your *first* attempts, I could only image what you 10th will be..clap.gif
    Great work, lassie!thumb.gif
    Cheers!1drink.gif
    We went to Williamstown not really knowing what we would see there, and I was surprised that the city of Melbourne was further away than I thought it would be..........and silly me I didn't take any zoom lenses with me.

    Next time we're going to go to South Bank the lights will be much brighter there and more colorful........where we were shooting was so dark the only real light was the actual city...... least I learnt a few things, and especially when you post on the forum you learn even more :D thats what I like :D

    Thanks for looking........ Skippy (Australia)
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  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Hey there Dee
    Dee wrote:
    I'm with Nikolai here! If those were my first attempts I'd be jumping up and down with joy!

    I especially like the second one, probably because there's more color. But you don't have blown out areas and your exposure looks great!

    Noise? well, that's always a problem. But I get noise in broad daylight! rolleyes1.gif

    You know, it seems like I've known you such a long time through that other forum, I forgot you are relatively new here! Yes, everyone is very helpful, no matter what cam you have.

    If you read the tutorials and Andy's references, and that book 4Labs mentioned, and fix the "choppy type" -- (had to chuckle at that, since I'm a graphic designer in my other life) you'll be an expert in no time at all.
    Thanks very much Dee......I love the Canon Gear I really do, I've been having so much fun learning how to use it, and even making mistakes has been great too, because the mistakes are often quite acceptable :D

    I am enjoying the learning curve, and need to learn more, presentation is another thing I need to learn......ahhhhhhhh but it's fun all the same rolleyes1.gif

    Take Care Dee....this is a great forum to belong to ....... Skippy (Australia)
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  • HiggmeisterHiggmeister Registered Users Posts: 909 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2005
    Hi Skippy,
    Those are some very nice shots for first tries. I just hope my first nightshot tries with my 20D will be half as good (just got it on Friday). For the size you posted, I'm not seeing much of any noise; looks smooth on this 21" CRT. What settings did you use. I read where you pushed up the ISO, but I'm interested in shutter speed and lens.
    I particularly like your comp on #1.

    Thanks for sharing,
    Chris

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  • TassieDTassieD Registered Users Posts: 711 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2005
    Skippy wrote:
    Not completely happy with these, I noticed the noise levels were quite visible, but I am really happy that even though they are noisey I am sure if I keep working at this I could do better.....so as a first attempt I am smiling :D
    Skippy (Australia)
    Outstanding Skippy, I'm with Andy and the others, leave the camera at ISO 100 and shoot from there.

    Look forward to seeing more.

    Dave
    Cheers
    David Clifford
  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited June 7, 2005
    Nikolai wrote:
    If those are your *first* attempts, I could only image what you 10th will be..clap.gif
    Great work, lassie!thumb.gif
    Cheers!1drink.gif
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  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2005
    Hi there Chris
    Those are some very nice shots for first tries. I just hope my first nightshot tries with my 20D will be half as good (just got it on Friday). For the size you posted, I'm not seeing much of any noise; looks smooth on this 21" CRT. What settings did you use. I read where you pushed up the ISO, but I'm interested in shutter speed and lens.
    I particularly like your comp on #1.

    Thanks for sharing,
    Chris
    I gotta tell ya Chris I am loving learning about this gear and its capabilities :D
    The image you like is of the town where I was born its right on the bay, and it was really really dark, and actually gave off those brown tonings.

    We'd already been in Williamstown for a few hours, so by the time we got back to Geelong I had the 100mm back on the camera at this stage, so I left it on.

    I was using the Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro at the time
    Here's the EXIF info ........... glad you liked it :D the Canon 100mm Macro is a really nice lens to use...... Skippy (Australia)

    Original date/time: 2005:06:05 21:09:38
    Exposure time: 25/1
    Shutter speed: 25.00
    F-stop: 29.0
    ISO speed: 800
    Focal length: 100.0000
    Flash: Not fired
    Exposure mode: Auto
    White balance: Auto
    Orientation: Top-left
    Aperture: 9.7160
    Exposure bias: 0.0000
    Metering mode: Pattern
    Exposure program: Aperture priority
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  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2005
    Hey David
    TassieD wrote:
    Outstanding Skippy, I'm with Andy and the others, leave the camera at ISO 100 and shoot from there.

    Look forward to seeing more. Dave
    We're gonna have to try it again, we had a great time, even though we stuffed up rolleyes1.gif ran into three ladies using SLR's and trying to tell us we needed to use a Star Filter rolleyes1.gif so I showed them a shot I'd just taken and they said ohhhhhhhh so you've already got a star filter on it rolleyes1.gif funny how everyone loves to tell you how to take photos they instant they see you with a Digital Camera rolleyes1.gif ..........yup we had a great time down by the bay.

    Thanks for looking David........I can't wait to try this all over again.
    Skippy (Australia)
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  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2005
    Thank you Angelo
    Angelo wrote:
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    Hi there Angelo :D

    I have so much to learn, but I am loving trying to figure it all out :D
    The technical side of Photography tends to go over my head a bit, but that doesn't stop me from trying :D .......... Skippy (Australia)
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