How do you assert a reasonable fee when the other person is a photographer themselves
catspaw
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Scenario:
Was approached and asked to do a series of event photography as well as location/marketing photography.
Manager of this facility is also a photographer herself (not chump change, she has L glass and white Canon lenses).
For event at end of this month, have been asked to take some facility photos before the event (early early morning) while everything is looking spic and span.
NORMALLY I'd know how to handle this, but since the other party (who decides how much to pay out, which photos to use, etc etc) is a decent photographer in her own right .... I'm just confuzzled. If I ask too much she knows she can just do it herself. Except that it's possible in her position as manager she doesn't get paid any extra so it's easier to get someone else paid. Or that she's too busy (true!) with event preparations to lark around and take photos and play with lenses for an hour in the morning.
My TIME is being done on a barter basis, but the photos themselves I will be paid for.
Any suggestions on how to approach this? I'd rather like to work something out contractually BEFORE the event, not after.
Was approached and asked to do a series of event photography as well as location/marketing photography.
Manager of this facility is also a photographer herself (not chump change, she has L glass and white Canon lenses).
For event at end of this month, have been asked to take some facility photos before the event (early early morning) while everything is looking spic and span.
NORMALLY I'd know how to handle this, but since the other party (who decides how much to pay out, which photos to use, etc etc) is a decent photographer in her own right .... I'm just confuzzled. If I ask too much she knows she can just do it herself. Except that it's possible in her position as manager she doesn't get paid any extra so it's easier to get someone else paid. Or that she's too busy (true!) with event preparations to lark around and take photos and play with lenses for an hour in the morning.
My TIME is being done on a barter basis, but the photos themselves I will be paid for.
Any suggestions on how to approach this? I'd rather like to work something out contractually BEFORE the event, not after.
//Leah
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I am not sure why you would do anything differently. Just because the client happens to be a decent, good, or pro photographer has nothing to do with it. Do you normally charge a client based on their profession or hobby?
Since this person came to you, obviously there are conflicts on their end. Be it the position in the company, time restraints, or simply because they choose not to photograph the event.
Don't over think it. It is simply another client.
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How do you approach any client who wants to hire you for a job? Approach this the same way.
Don't waste your time second-guessing her reasons for hiring you instead of doing it herself.
In this situation YOU are the professional photographer and she is the CLIENT. So treat her with the same professionalism and respect as you would treat any other client.
Meet with her to ascertain her photographic needs, tell her what you would charge for your services,
and draw up a written contract which you will both sign prior to your taking the job.
Don't apologize for your rates, don't feel you have to break it down to every penny.
Do be sure you take into consideration your time, your materials, your post-processing time, and the VALUE of your work to her when you set your price.
more above.....in bold............
If you search these threads there is a link to a calculator (which I forgot to bookmark for myself) to help with this type of situations.............
Also do not let her supposedly being a decent photog keep you from charging YOUR WORTH AS A PHOTOGRAPHER...........If she is a $1000/hr photog and your honestly a $350/hr photog then raise your bar a bit and charge $500........it has to happen sometime.
I'm great with businesses .... unless it's mine and/or I have to be forward/confident about it.
yeah, I'm working on it.
Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. Quite a lot of people are like this. It is why some make superb managers but lousy owners.
I have watched your advice here many times. You just need to keep that same advice when you are on the other end.
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