I saved that image to play around with and found something verrrry interesting. The thumbnail that shows up in the file details in XP folder shows a full color image, but when opened in irfanview, it shows exactly as you posted here. Here's a screen capture showing them side-by-side.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
I saved that image to play around with and found something verrrry interesting. The thumbnail that shows up in the file details in XP folder shows a full color image, but when opened in irfanview, it shows exactly as you posted here. Here's a screen capture showing them side-by-side.
Heh... I guess she has been busted :
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(So it was a color image that was made B/W as opposed to the other way and then possible recolored.)
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Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
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Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
I would rather take them in color and convert so I can have it both ways.
cmr164: (So it was a color image that was made B/W as opposed to the other way and then possible recolored.)
I was not displaying the ability to convert a color image to BW. Instead, I was showing the ability to tint a bw image. But for you: Let me lay it down for ya:
The color image was converted to BW in photoshop. Then the BW image was tinted using the overlay tools.
... The color image was converted to BW in photoshop. Then the BW image was tinted using the overlay tools.
I have a lot to learn about photoshop (and gimp) I still haven't been able to get rid of imager dust spots in gimp yet even though that is one of the few things that I can do with photoshop. :
Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
I have a lot to learn about photoshop (and gimp) I still haven't been able to get rid of imager dust spots in gimp yet even though that is one of the few things that I can do with photoshop. :
Photoshop I'm good at.
What's gimp?
Hey, I never claimed to know it all!
Photoshop I'm good at.
What's gimp?
Hey, I never claimed to know it all!
:tuesday
Gimp is the freeware replacement for Photoshop. I have Photoshop 7 on a WinXP box that I don't like to use. Have not yet purchased it for the Mac so I have Gimp on MacOSX/Solaris/Tru64 which are the O/Ses that I actually use.
Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
The color image was converted to BW in photoshop. Then the BW image was tinted using the overlay tools.
Which raises a question for me. What is the difference, if any, between shooting in B&W mode vs. converting to B&W (or grayscale) in post production?
I really like the tinting, Tuesday. It lends a very unique, arty touch to your photos. One more thing I'd like to play around with (which is the reason I downloaded your photo in the first place...to check it out a little closer). Really nice work.
I'm not even sure if I can get my 10D to shoot in B&W, although I can make my S400 do it. I guess it's time to RTFM.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Excellent question, Fish, I have often wondered the same.
Hey Tuesday, could you walk me through the overlay process? I think I understand that you have a B&W layer and a color layer, and you're selecting how much of the color layer to show through. How are you controlling it?
Which raises a question for me. What is the difference, if any, between shooting in B&W mode vs. converting to B&W (or grayscale) in post production?
I really like the tinting, Tuesday. It lends a very unique, arty touch to your photos. One more thing I'd like to play around with (which is the reason I downloaded your photo in the first place...to check it out a little closer). Really nice work.
I'm not even sure if I can get my 10D to shoot in B&W, although I can make my S400 do it. I guess it's time to RTFM.
Personally, I can't find a difference in shooting in BW mode or converting later.
I like to convert so I can see the photo both ways.
(note: if your photo does not have enough contrast when converted to BW, try increasing the green levels before converting. It's like using a green filter. Works wonders on some photos)
Back to the question at hand.
After the photo has been converted to BW, I just choose the overlay tool, adjust the opacity (start low - try 10-15). Choose a shade of pink (for cheeks), and just paint over that area.
Since you are overlaying and the opacity level is low, you will not cover the photo that is there like you will if you use the airbrush tool alone.
This way, it will tint the photo without losing any of the shadows present in your photo.
Eyes, I did the same way, just chose a shade of blue.
It really is quite simple. I'm no rocket scientist.
you have a lot more control over the BW tones, in general, by converting on the computer. you can edit color channels in monochrome seperatley, whereas - in camera just desaturates the color channels, you'd have to try it to beleive me.
try using the channel mixer ( click the monochrome box )- make the blue channel -20, red +60, and green +60
then mess with the sliders to see the variety of tonage you can acheive - not to mention if you arent out to shoot BW - its nice to have a color version too
At the risk of sounding completely stupid (well at least very inexperienced with photoshop) what are the overlay tools, and where can one find them?
I searched help for info in Photoshop, that didn't really help. Is there somewhere where I can find more detailed explanation?
I loved the effect, would like to have a go at reproducing it, but am just going around in circles getting nowhere.
I have photoshop 7. I can normally do basic tasks, but I must be looking in the wrong spot for this......
Thanks
Once you create a layer, there's a box in the layer window that defaults to "normal". You know, like what none of us here are. Just click on the dropdown arrow and you'll see "overlay" amongst about a dozen other choices.
M7
Personally, I can't find a difference in shooting in BW mode or converting later.
I like to convert so I can see the photo both ways.
(note: if your photo does not have enough contrast when converted to BW, try increasing the green levels before converting. It's like using a green filter. Works wonders on some photos)
Back to the question at hand.
After the photo has been converted to BW, I just choose the overlay tool, adjust the opacity (start low - try 10-15). Choose a shade of pink (for cheeks), and just paint over that area.
Since you are overlaying and the opacity level is low, you will not cover the photo that is there like you will if you use the airbrush tool alone.
This way, it will tint the photo without losing any of the shadows present in your photo.
Eyes, I did the same way, just chose a shade of blue.
It really is quite simple. I'm no rocket scientist.
I hope this makes sense.
:tuesday
Hi Tuesday, lovely b and w pictures... I've been practising!!!! don't have a child to work on so grabbed what I had... not quite the same effect but such fun.. you do lovely work. Thanks for the tutorials Lynn
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Pretty simple really.
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cmr% strings 02.jpg|more
JFIF
Exif
SONY
CD MAVICA
J5YHif
2002:03:23 17:23:25
...
(So it was a color image that was made B/W as opposed to the other way and then possible recolored.)
...
Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
I would rather take them in color and convert so I can have it both ways.
I was not displaying the ability to convert a color image to BW.
Instead, I was showing the ability to tint a bw image.
But for you: Let me lay it down for ya:
The color image was converted to BW in photoshop. Then the BW image was tinted using the overlay tools.
Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
What's gimp?
Hey, I never claimed to know it all!
:tuesday
Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
I really like the tinting, Tuesday. It lends a very unique, arty touch to your photos. One more thing I'd like to play around with (which is the reason I downloaded your photo in the first place...to check it out a little closer). Really nice work.
I'm not even sure if I can get my 10D to shoot in B&W, although I can make my S400 do it. I guess it's time to RTFM.
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Hey Tuesday, could you walk me through the overlay process? I think I understand that you have a B&W layer and a color layer, and you're selecting how much of the color layer to show through. How are you controlling it?
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
I like to convert so I can see the photo both ways.
(note: if your photo does not have enough contrast when converted to BW, try increasing the green levels before converting. It's like using a green filter. Works wonders on some photos)
Back to the question at hand.
After the photo has been converted to BW, I just choose the overlay tool, adjust the opacity (start low - try 10-15). Choose a shade of pink (for cheeks), and just paint over that area.
Since you are overlaying and the opacity level is low, you will not cover the photo that is there like you will if you use the airbrush tool alone.
This way, it will tint the photo without losing any of the shadows present in your photo.
Eyes, I did the same way, just chose a shade of blue.
It really is quite simple. I'm no rocket scientist.
I hope this makes sense.
:tuesday
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
:tuesday
try using the channel mixer ( click the monochrome box )- make the blue channel -20, red +60, and green +60
then mess with the sliders to see the variety of tonage you can acheive - not to mention if you arent out to shoot BW - its nice to have a color version too
I searched help for info in Photoshop, that didn't really help. Is there somewhere where I can find more detailed explanation?
I loved the effect, would like to have a go at reproducing it, but am just going around in circles getting nowhere.
I have photoshop 7. I can normally do basic tasks, but I must be looking in the wrong spot for this......
Thanks
M7
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au