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print size vs megapixels vs quality question

QarikQarik Registered Users Posts: 4,959 Major grins
edited May 10, 2009 in Finishing School
I printed out an 11x14 shot through smug mug. It turned out okay but a little more grainy then i was expecting. I went back and retraced my cropping/settings on this picture. It appears the shot was heavily cropped..I only have maybe 6 megapixels in the shot.

Well that is my 1st question..for say family portrait..is there some kind of rule of thumb with regard to number megapixels and print size? Is 6 mpixels too little for an 11x14?

And what compression quality do you use for jpegs? I was using 80% and 240dots per inch. The jpeg looked fairly close to the lightroom shot. I think I will up it to 300 dots per inch and 100% for quality.

I also recall seeing a smugmug option in some control panel "sharpen for printing" or something like that...I might be imagining things though.
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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,699 moderator
    edited May 10, 2009
    Qarik wrote:
    I printed out an 11x14 shot through smug mug. It turned out okay but a little more grainy then i was expecting. I went back and retraced my cropping/settings on this picture. It appears the shot was heavily cropped..I only have maybe 6 megapixels in the shot.

    Well that is my 1st question..for say family portrait..is there some kind of rule of thumb with regard to number megapixels and print size? Is 6 mpixels too little for an 11x14?

    And what compression quality do you use for jpegs? I was using 80% and 240dots per inch. The jpeg looked fairly close to the lightroom shot. I think I will up it to 300 dots per inch and 100% for quality.

    I also recall seeing a smugmug option in some control panel "sharpen for printing" or something like that...I might be imagining things though.

    300 pixels per inch X 11 inches = 3300 pixels for the short dimension

    300 pixels per inch x 14 inches = 4200 pixels for the long dimension


    3300 x 4200 = 13, 860,000 pixels or ~ 14 Mbytes

    So 6MPxls is a bit short without uprezzing. But if your shoot in RAW, it is easy to uprez a bit in Adobe RAW converter before popping your image into Photoshop.

    Having said that, lots of folks have printed images at 11x14 from a 6 Mpxl camera. I have a number of images from a Canon 10D that was 6,5 MPxls
    This image came from my Canon 10D several years ago. I have it framed on the wall in my home at 11x14 inches and it is grainless

    404480349_esoxp-L.jpg

    The secret is the quality of the pixels and avoiding cropping the image if you can.

    What was the ISO your image was shot at?


    Here is a tute I wrote about Resolution and printing.

    I save jpgs at a Image quality of 10 in Photoshop, or 90% in LR2. I prefer to print at 300 pixels per inch, but have seen a number of fine prints printed at 180 ppi. Remember, ppi does not equal dots per inch from your printer. EACH pixel may be represented by 5 - 10 dots per inch out of an inkjet printer.

    I usually print from Lightroom2 now, I like it better than the dialogues in Photoshop, and sharpen maximally in the printing module in Lightroom. I also do capture sharpening in LR2 RAW processing or in ACR 5+ before introducing my file to Photoshop.
    Pathfinder - www.pathfinder.smugmug.com

    Moderator of the Technique Forum and Finishing School on Dgrin
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