Using Gels with flash vs. Software hue/tints

TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
edited June 11, 2009 in Technique
ok, im never out of stupid questions so here is another...

im looking into getting some Gels for my flash... but i was thinking maybe i could get the same results using Lightroom.... is this possible? or is there just no way in beating the results of using gels and flash correctly?

is this crazy talk? please help my ignorance in the matter...
Aaron Nelson

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  • Tim KamppinenTim Kamppinen Registered Users Posts: 816 Major grins
    edited June 5, 2009
    ok, im never out of stupid questions so here is another...

    im looking into getting some Gels for my flash... but i was thinking maybe i could get the same results using Lightroom.... is this possible? or is there just no way in beating the results of using gels and flash correctly?

    is this crazy talk? please help my ignorance in the matter...

    If you just want to change the color balance of your entire image, then yes, it's very quick to just adjust the WB in camera raw or lightroom. The real purpose of gels is when you want to change the color in just one area of your image. For instance, you can put a gel on a background light so that you have a blue, red, green, yellow, etc. background behind your subject. You can use a CTO gel to give your subjects a warm, pleasing skin tone while leaving the background natural, or if there is a sky in the background you can use Tungsten WB on your camera to make it go deep blue while the main light on your subject looks neutral or slightly warmed.

    All of this would be much more complicated and time-consuming to do in post processing because you'd have to use layer masks to separate the image into different sections that you could then adjust independently. Much quicker and easier to just stick a gel on your flash.

    The other reason you'd want to use gels is to match your flash to the ambient light, whether fluorescent or tungsten. This ensures that the flash lit area of your shot and the ambient area have the same color and that you don't get weird color shifts in different parts of your image. If you don't use gels in these scenarios, you either have to accept the color shifts or try to fix them in PS which would probably be extremely difficult.
  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited June 5, 2009
    Thank you Tim, very logical...and sometimes i lack logic:D
    Aaron Nelson
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 5, 2009
    Tim already said that, but just to reiterate...
    Gels allow you to bring different light sources spectra closer together... Human eye+mind combo is capable of making real-time dynamic asjustments, which today's cameras are utterly incapable of...ne_nau.gif
    Unlike ND/split ND and like CP, this effect can NOT be achieved in s/w without painful masking work...
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited June 5, 2009
    ok, im never out of stupid questions so here is another...

    im looking into getting some Gels for my flash... but i was thinking maybe i could get the same results using Lightroom.... is this possible? or is there just no way in beating the results of using gels and flash correctly?

    is this crazy talk? please help my ignorance in the matter...

    As mentioned above - gels are used for color balancing with ambient light or for alteration of color for creative control. Pretty straight forward with gels, but very hard to do in Photoshop without endless selections and masks.

    Get the gels. You will be much happier for them. MPEX.com sell's them pretty cheap

    Honlphoto.com sells'em too

    Lot's cheaper than a new lensthumb.gif
    Pathfinder - www.pathfinder.smugmug.com

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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2009
    May be this is also useful :D
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  • kirktkirkt Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited June 11, 2009
    This too:

    http://www.lumiquest.com/products/fxtra.htm

    will hold Roscoe or Lee sample gels.
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