#28 - New Find - Your opinion please :)

travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
edited June 25, 2009 in The Dgrin Challenges
Hi guys,

Look what I found yesterday :ivar

Fania's Earrings #1

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Fania's Earrings #2

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What do you think?

** I actually entered the #1 into the contest :drums
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  • ic4uic4u Registered Users Posts: 1,455 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    I love #1.....nice framing on it. My only suggestion is to see if you can decrease the shine on her nose and cheek
    Karin


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  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    ic4u wrote:
    I love #1.....nice framing on it. My only suggestion is to see if you can decrease the shine on her nose and cheek


    I'm afraid I don't know how to do that...ne_nau.gif
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  • ic4uic4u Registered Users Posts: 1,455 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    photo-bug wrote:
    I'm afraid I don't know how to do that...ne_nau.gif

    Yeah, I'm in the same boat, I'm not sure how either, but I bet Kat knows:D
    But Miss night owl is probably still sleeping....hopefully she'll offer up some tips
    Karin


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  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    What I think though, is that by cropping the photo the way I did, the white on the nose and chick,
    is balanced by the light on her eyes and lips, also by the white of her outfit on the
    lower right corner of the image...
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  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    ic4u wrote:
    Yeah, I'm in the same boat, I'm not sure how either, but I bet Kat knows:D
    But Miss night owl is probably still sleeping....hopefully she'll offer up some tips

    I don't know about other people's skills... ne_nau.gif

    - What about the solution for your own photo... did you get it? :D
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  • ic4uic4u Registered Users Posts: 1,455 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    photo-bug wrote:
    I don't know about other people's skills... ne_nau.gif

    - What about the solution for your own photo... did you get it? :D

    Still playing with some ideas, thanks for asking
    Karin


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  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    ic4u wrote:
    Still playing with some ideas, thanks for asking

    I know you will get it right mwink.gif

    Good luck to you :D
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  • marikrismarikris Registered Users Posts: 930 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    HI, photo-bug! I really like 1, specially the framing. I think it could benefit from a little bit of brightening and contrast. Have you tried the healing brush or carefully burning the shine off her face?
  • richterslrichtersl Registered Users Posts: 3,322 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    Lovely photo and the earring fits the theme perfectly! But like Karin, I'm distracted by that shine on her face. ne_nau.gif

    I'm not sure how to remove or lessen that via PS. headscratch.gif Have you tried the Shadow/Highlight tool in it? The only other thing you might want to consider is a vertical crop down the center of her face to remove the shiny area entirely. I've moved the photo around on my screen in an attempt to mimic that and it doesn't look bad at all.
  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    OK, I'll do some more work on it.

    Thank you very much thumb.gif
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  • FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    I've used the technique recommended by Scott Kelby for removing hot spots with some success.


    Make a duplicate layer. Select the clone tool and choose a medium sized, soft-edged brush.

    Set the clone tool to darken mode and 40% opacity.

    Find an area of skin that matches the tone and run the clone tool over the bright spots. (In your photo, only what is on the side to the viewer's left).

    You can further adjust opacity by lowering the opacity percentage of the layer you are working on. For better control, use the Fade Brush function to adjust the opacity of each brush stroke (keeping in mind that the fade function only works on the most recent brush stroke).

    Love the concept and, while the roundness shows off well in #2, I agree that #1 is the one for the challenge!!

    Good luck!

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  • KatmitchellKatmitchell Banned Posts: 1,548 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    ic4u wrote:
    Yeah, I'm in the same boat, I'm not sure how either, but I bet Kat knows:D
    But Miss night owl is probably still sleeping....hopefully she'll offer up some tips

    ==============================

    Ha ha.rolleyes1.gif How embarrassing... Miss Karin.. Just Kidding.. :D

    Yes, My husband actually made me sleep in today and get some rest.. Usually I am up doing post process on shoots all night and the DG, plus getting up with the kids, so I tend to run myself into the ground and he makes me rest some... Wow, rest feels good..wings.gif

    Ok, on the shine,, this is a super tough one, and I only know of one way and that is if you use Photoshop... I took a copy into photoshop if you don't mind photobug so that I could be sure it worked.. The patch and clone are a little too rough on such light detail..especially a nose bridge,it is the most difficult because you have to worry about the shape distortions too..

    The only thing I could get to work with this is painting. I used a brush, size 8, hardness set to 2 and opacity set to 10.. once your brush is set up, then go click on the top color box on the left, your foreground color box.. then be sure to place your dropper right on the color on her skin next to where you are going to paint, then start painting with light stoke clicks. Every time you move to a new area that is a different color then resmaple that color, you want the paint to match the skin in each area.

    I did it and it works.. Just keep the pressure of the brush super low and the opacity no higher than 10.. after your done, you can come back in with the healing brush or clone brush and add some texture if ya want to.. If ya need me to I can post that redo for you to see if ya like for reference and so you can decide if you think it will be worth your time..

    That is the only way I know how and is usually how I touch up my own client shoots.. If it was anywhere else on the face then layering and masking in skin around it would be my choice, but the nose is the most difficult to work with...

    Nice photo by the way, great capture..thumb.gifthumbthumb.gif

    Kat
  • KatmitchellKatmitchell Banned Posts: 1,548 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    Just now saw Gina's Post... That would work too on a layer.. Scott Kelby is awesome, I have some of his books..

    Just remember the idea is to get the shine reduced, you don't want to make it too flat, you want that natural shine, just not so bright.. The shine gives the nose shape. so if you do use the paint option in either one of these methods, be sure to grab your paint color to the left side of the nose...

    Good Luck with it...thumb.gif
    Kat
  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    Flyinggina wrote:
    I've used the technique recommended by Scott Kelby for removing hot spots with some success.


    Make a duplicate layer. Select the clone tool and choose a medium sized, soft-edged brush.

    Set the clone tool to darken mode and 40% opacity.

    Find an area of skin that matches the tone and run the clone tool over the bright spots. (In your photo, only what is on the side to the viewer's left).

    You can further adjust opacity by lowering the opacity percentage of the layer you are working on. For better control, use the Fade Brush function to adjust the opacity of each brush stroke (keeping in mind that the fade function only works on the most recent brush stroke).

    Love the concept and, while the roundness shows off well in #2, I agree that #1 is the one for the challenge!!

    Good luck!

    Va

    I actually did some work on it and this is what I got:

    573719894_xzD2h-L.jpg

    I think I used exactly the method you are describing, but I'll take a closer look a little later.
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  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    Ha, ha, yes my method was very similar thank you very much Gina :)

    Thanks everybody, it was actually not too difficult at all :D
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  • NikonsandVstromsNikonsandVstroms Registered Users Posts: 990 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    With the new image, I think it's because he took down the highlights on the face but I really notice the lip piercing more. Maybe burn that down a little, because it's this really bright circle in the middle of all these soft skin tones.

    Edit: I was just writing a way to take down the highlights, then looked at the thread again and saw Kat basically came up the same way lol3.gif
  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    With the new image, I think it's because he took down the highlights on the face but I really notice the lip piercing more. Maybe burn that down a little, because it's this really bright circle in the middle of all these soft skin tones.

    Edit: I was just writing a way to take down the highlights, then looked at the thread again and saw Kat basically came up the same way lol3.gif


    I actually did the retouching before I saw the suggestions above - I can say that it was quite similar
    to what Gina said, but I used the healing brush tool instead of the cloning tool - they actually work similar...

    After I cleaned up the chick and nose, I realize that now, her lips are popping up :)

    I was wondering if I should have faded those too...

    ... but, I'm sure that if I do, then her eyes will be too shiny (probably...), and so on...
    I'll finally arrive to fade her entirely down rolleyes1.gif

    Well... I'll give it a try, just for the fun of it, to see what happens ...mwink.gif

    Wish me good luck rolleyes1.gif

    and Thank you thumb.gif
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  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    Here she is again, with the lips faded:

    573841748_qYnh4-L.jpg

    How does she look?
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  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    Now I faded a little the lights on her eyes:

    573877712_Ba6GE-L.jpg

    How does she look?
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  • NikonsandVstromsNikonsandVstroms Registered Users Posts: 990 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    It's really a tightrope between smoothing it out and keeping the face from becoming too flat. This last one I feel went a little too far, if you can maintain a little detail while covering it that would be best. My advice would be to try drawing ontop of the areas on a newlayer with her skin tone then try out the different layer options to see which one fits best.
  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    Thank you thumb.gif
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  • whitericewhiterice Registered Users Posts: 555 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    What....another option for this theme!!

    Let me first say that I really do like the lifesavers....and the RV. clap.gifclap.gif

    But, I really like this shot as well. You've used every bit of the frame in #1 - looks so great. You've done a great job of lowering the shine.

    This has been a very informative thread - thanks everyone!
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  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    whiterice wrote:
    What....another option for this theme!!

    Let me first say that I really do like the lifesavers....and the RV. clap.gifclap.gif

    But, I really like this shot as well. You've used every bit of the frame in #1 - looks so great. You've done a great job of lowering the shine.

    This has been a very informative thread - thanks everyone!

    Thank you so much "Whiterice" :)
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  • richterslrichtersl Registered Users Posts: 3,322 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    Nice work, Tatiana! clap.gif
  • travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2009
    richtersl wrote:
    Nice work, Tatiana! clap.gif

    Thank you so much Linda :)

    How's the weather going there - has the sun appeared yet?
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