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InsuredDisasterInsuredDisaster Registered Users Posts: 1,132 Major grins
edited July 8, 2009 in Sports
I want to say, these were not shot with a digital camera. They were shot with a Canon EOS Rebel X with a Sigma 17-35 using out of date (by at least a couple of years) Kodak Gold 400. So excuse the high "noise" and perhaps weird color shifts.

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    ErbemanErbeman Registered Users Posts: 926 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2009
    I'm not really feeling any of them. You can't just excuse the quality of the first pic. The 2nd pic is ok and the 3rd is bad. You can't shoot towards the sun. It should be at your back or at the very least beside you.
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    InsuredDisasterInsuredDisaster Registered Users Posts: 1,132 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2009
    Hey, thanks for that tip. I'll probably be going back a few more times this summer, but probably be brining my digital stuff next time.


    Ok, quick question, what if you have no choice but to shoot into the sun? What do you recommend?
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    ErbemanErbeman Registered Users Posts: 926 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2009
    Hey, thanks for that tip. I'll probably be going back a few more times this summer, but probably be brining my digital stuff next time.


    Ok, quick question, what if you have no choice but to shoot into the sun? What do you recommend?

    Not shooting at all. It's just something you don't do unless it's very late in the evening and the sun isn't near as bright as it is during the day.
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    johngjohng Registered Users Posts: 1,658 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2009
    Ok, quick question, what if you have no choice but to shoot into the sun? What do you recommend?
    Use external flash with manual exposure set to expose more for the background. It's still not perfect but it will lessen the bad side effects. And distances are usually not great for something like this so even using HS Synch you should have enough reach.
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    InsuredDisasterInsuredDisaster Registered Users Posts: 1,132 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2009
    John, Thanks for that tip. I am aware of the need for flash in these photos. However, I was using an older Canon which belonged to my mother. No external flash, as all of my equipment is Nikon. I did shoot another shot where I exposed for the sky, but the old film seemed to really show up in the shadows and the sillouette.

    Erb, I don't think there's much fun in your answer now is there!mwink.gif


    Ok, I know the film was out of date, and its grainy as hell.

    I know the lack of flashes for the camera I used shows.

    And I know that I broke a federal law and will be facing 50 to life for shooting into the sun.


    But what about the angles and what not? That's what I'm more interested in. I tried to get low and was in the bowl. Is there any suggestions as to what to do later?

    I'll be returning with my heavy artillery later; I just had some film to use up this time so it was more "practice" this time.

    I will return and try shooting at sunset. Unfortunately, most of the "hot spots" at this place have me shooting south or west.


    Thanks for looking and commenting!iloveyou.gif
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    johngjohng Registered Users Posts: 1,658 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2009
    John, I am aware of the need for flash in these photos. However, .....

    With all due respect, you asked the question:
    Ok, quick question, what if you have no choice but to shoot into the sun? What do you recommend?

    I answered that question. If you already knew the answer was "use flash", why did you ask the question?
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    ErbemanErbeman Registered Users Posts: 926 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2009
    I would suggest that you shoot tighter as well.
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    InsuredDisasterInsuredDisaster Registered Users Posts: 1,132 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2009
    Erbeman wrote:
    I would suggest that you shoot tighter as well.


    Thanks, that's helpful.



    JohnG, sorry if you think I brushed off your suggestion. I'll definately be brining in the flash next time. Another roll of photos i shot was later in the day, near sunset. They subject is poorly exposed in everyone of them. Sometimes, I need to be reminded of these things. Thank you.thumb.gif


    Hey though, quick question, I was curious about why the hard rule of never shoot into the sun?
    http://blog.flickr.net/en/2009/07/08/underwater/ These are underwater, but they are shooting into the sun. I think the shots are pretty cool. I'm not saying my shots have the same into the sun qualities, but seriously, why is this rule so set in stone?
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