My digital rebel D-SLR problem?

Chile Chef

On my digital rebel in manual mode I can only set the iso, and the shutter speed, But in Tv I can set all three, iso, shutter speed, meter.


So how can I set the meter in manual mode?


On my rebel FILM slr I can set all three in a few modes. It's nice to be able to do that in the digital as well.


Any help would be appreciated.

Art Scott

in manual you should be setting: shutter, aperture and iso......I donot understand what you mean by "you can set the meter"..............................

silversx80

All cameras should generally be the same. Tv is "shutter priority" mode, where you set the shutter-speed and ISO, then the camera, using the built-in metering, will select an aperture. Av is "aperture priority" mode. You get to pick the aperture and ISO, while the camera will select the proper shutter-speed. The camera calculates the proper exposure based on your selections.

The third selection you're probably thinking of is "exposure compensation." Basically, you're telling the camera to calculate proper exposure from your selections in Av or Tv mode, and then add or subtract a certain compensation to exposure calculation.

In manual mode, you have to do all the calculations. Most cameras will give you a metered output display, telling you that your shutter-speed, aperture and ISO selections will be properly exposed, over exposed or under exposed.

In other words, the meter isn't a selection, but rather a measurement.

On my film camera (Olympus OM-10) it's a little more basic. I can choose either full manual, or aperture priority. Basically, I tell the camera what ISO film is in there, and it can either select the shutter-speed for me, or not.

Point being, the only tangible difference between film and digital (as far as user-selections go) is that you're stuck with a specific ISO for an entire roll of film, while digital can change every shot.

Hope this helps.

Chile Chef

silversx80 wrote:

All cameras should generally be the same. Tv is "shutter priority" mode, where you set the shutter-speed and ISO, then the camera, using the built-in metering, will select an aperture. Av is "aperture priority" mode. You get to pick the aperture and ISO, while the camera will select the proper shutter-speed. The camera calculates the proper exposure based on your selections.

The third selection you're probably thinking of is "exposure compensation." Basically, you're telling the camera to calculate proper exposure from your selections in Av or Tv mode, and then add or subtract a certain compensation to exposure calculation.

In manual mode, you have to do all the calculations. Most cameras will give you a metered output display, telling you that your shutter-speed, aperture and ISO selections will be properly exposed, over exposed or under exposed.

In other words, the meter isn't a selection, but rather a measurement.

On my film camera (Olympus OM-10) it's a little more basic. I can choose either full manual, or aperture priority. Basically, I tell the camera what ISO film is in there, and it can either select the shutter-speed for me, or not.

Point being, the only tangible difference between film and digital (as far as user-selections go) is that you're stuck with a specific ISO for an entire roll of film, while digital can change every shot.

Hope this helps.

Thank you silversx80, It does help a lot, and a lot of that I knew all ready I was just wondering what the deal was. Because in the M mode, the meter is pegged against the +2 and not the -2, But on the the film slr I can manipulate this meter to my whim and set it to 2 dot's before the +2 mark. or minus it to the -2 mark.



And Art, that's what I mean.

silversx80

Chile Chef wrote:

Thank you silversx80, It does help a lot, and a lot of that I knew all ready I was just wondering what the deal was. Because in the M mode, the meter is pegged against the +2 and not the -2, But on the the film slr I can manipulate this meter to my whim and set it to 2 dot's before the +2 mark. or minus it to the -2 mark.



And Art, that's what I mean.

When it's pegged like that, the camera is telling you that the shot is going to be over exposed. Either a lower ISO, faster shutter speed or a smaller aperture will fix that.

divamum

Do you mean setting the aperture in manual? You have to hold down the EV button while turning the dial; if you just turn the dial, it will adjust shutter speed rather than aperture.

I'm not quite sure what you meant by your original question so apologies if this doesn't answer it!

Chile Chef

divamum wrote:

Do you mean setting the aperture in manual? You have to hold down the EV button while turning the dial; if you just turn the dial, it will adjust shutter speed rather than aperture.

I'm not quite sure what you meant by your original question so apologies if this doesn't answer it!

When I getback I will see if I can find a screen shot and try to explain what I mean better, and no not the arpture or shutter speed, It's that meter.

Art Scott

Chile Chef wrote:

Thank you silversx80, It does help a lot, and a lot of that I knew all ready I was just wondering what the deal was. Because in the M mode, the meter is pegged against the +2 and not the -2, But on the the film slr I can manipulate this meter to my whim and set it to 2 dot's before the +2 mark. or minus it to the -2 mark.



And Art, that's what I mean.

I now understand that you were speaking exposure compensation and actually setting the meter.....I started to go that way but wasn't sure what you meant and Silver came in and did a FANTASTIC JOB of explaining it for you......plus you shooting a canon I thought maybe there was something I did not know that they could do:D wioth the meter that no other camera canrofl

As Silver explained....being buried at the + or - 2 just means you need to cahnge eiher the iso, aperture of shutter to bring the meter down to where it will give you the exposure you want .....that does not mean it need to abe at zero......zero is for a perfect world and does not work .....so we need to either over or under expose a bit with the compensation dial .......andthen we bracket from there to get what we, the artist, perceives as the perfect exposure.........

ziggy53

In manual mode the meter is just that, a meter reading. If the meter shows +2 then the meter is telling you that the scene is metering above average exposure (possibly "Way" above an average exposure.)

In order to bring the scene back to normal exposure, assuming that the scene "should be" a normal exposure, you need to adjust the shutter speed, aperture and/or ISO setting. Some scenes "Should" show above average, so you need to understand what the scene should be before adjusting.

The EV adjustments are only available for other exposure modes but EV adjustments/compensations are not available in manual mode except for the reading from the exposure meter which does show EV directly (as related to an average exposure).