Canon 70-200 IS Question

jd1585jd1585 Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
edited July 14, 2009 in Cameras
Ok. So I recently picked up a used 70 - 200 f2.8 IS. The exterior had some scuffs but the glass looks flawless and there is no visible dust in the lens. I have a 15 day return policy so this weekend I got a chance to play around and I noticed it seemed soft wide open and 70 and at 200. This could be me being paranoid because I don't usually go used, but I want to make sure before my return policy is up. I will post a few, if you guys want to let me know what you think. Also it would be awesone if you would be willing to post a few you have taken straight out of the camera. Sorry this was long but even at $1000 used it was a major investment.

One more thing. It could be user error, but I tried everything I know. Manually focus, tripod, and stopped to f8, and I my 70 - 200 f4 I had before seemed sharper.

Thanks. Pics in a minute.

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,132 moderator
    edited July 13, 2009
    Jason,

    The Canon EF 70-200mm, f2.8L USM (with or without IS) "is" a bit soft wide open. At f4 it sharpens very nicely. The important part is that with some sharpening the f2.8 is very usable. This makes it a very good choice for night and low-light work. For night sports it is about the only zoom I recommend.
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • jd1585jd1585 Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited July 13, 2009
    jd1585 wrote:
    Ok. So I recently picked up a used 70 - 200 f2.8 IS. The exterior had some scuffs but the glass looks flawless and there is no visible dust in the lens. I have a 15 day return policy so this weekend I got a chance to play around and I noticed it seemed soft wide open and 70 and at 200. This could be me being paranoid because I don't usually go used, but I want to make sure before my return policy is up. I will post a few, if you guys want to let me know what you think. Also it would be awesone if you would be willing to post a few you have taken straight out of the camera. Sorry this was long but even at $1000 used it was a major investment.

    One more thing. It could be user error, but I tried everything I know. Manually focus, tripod, and stopped to f8, and I my 70 - 200 f4 I had before seemed sharper.

    Thanks. Pics in a minute.

    Here is another one.
  • jd1585jd1585 Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited July 13, 2009
    jd1585 wrote:
    Here is another one.

    Last one.
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,132 moderator
    edited July 13, 2009
    At these screen resolutions they look fine to me, except the last which might be a little soft, possibly because of the distance to subject. I like to keep the subject at least twice MFD. Since MFD for the 70-200mm, f2.8L IS is around 4.6 feet, I suggest the best close focus distance is at around 9 feet.

    Note that the f4 version has a shorter MFD at 3.9 feet, so it would allow a bit shorter distance to subject.

    Do you have any links to full-sized images or at least 1:1 image crops?
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • jd1585jd1585 Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited July 13, 2009
    ziggy53 wrote:
    At these screen resolutions they look fine to me, except the last which might be a little soft, possibly because of the distance to subject. I like to keep the subject at least twice MFD. Since MFD for the 70-200mm, f2.8L IS is around 4.6 feet, I suggest the best close focus distance is at around 9 feet.

    Note that the f4 version has a shorter MFD at 3.9 feet, so it would allow a bit shorter distance to subject.

    Do you have any links to full-sized images or at least 1:1 image crops?

    Here is a link to the gallery. I think you may be on to something. I know I was closer then 9 feet. I appreciate all the help.

    http://jd1585.smugmug.com/gallery/8891974_Cfa6g/1/589744110_bm3QT
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,132 moderator
    edited July 13, 2009
    Of these images the 'jumping in the air' image is very, very sharp. The other 2 are somewhat soft and I do believe that you were too close for optimal focus.
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • rookieshooterrookieshooter Registered Users Posts: 539 Major grins
    edited July 13, 2009
    They do look a little soft to me as well. However, that can be compensated for in photshop. Am I wrong? I'm always willing to learn and if I'm wrong let me know! These animals were all about 20 feet away, give or take a few feet.

    For examples, I present my own shots with a 70-200 non-IS with a 40D

    200mm F2.8
    482538511_C2Wk2-L.jpg

    200mm F2.8
    487863615_8FhJq-L.jpg

    165mm F2.8
    482541201_jbLJc-L.jpg

    200mm F5.6
    482538890_RHGo4-L.jpg
  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited July 14, 2009
    I looked at numbers 3, 4, 11, and 12

    Looking at the originals, I don't see anything to be concerned about and a lot to be quite happy about.

    Take #12 as an example .... pixel peeping this one, you can see individual eyelashes, eyebrow hairs, skin pores on her forehead, and individual strands of hair - all quite sharp enough to make me happy.

    I don't think you have anything to be concerned about as far as lens sharpness is concerned.

    Exposure - well we all have something to work on. :D
  • jd1585jd1585 Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited July 14, 2009
    I looked at numbers 3, 4, 11, and 12

    Looking at the originals, I don't see anything to be concerned about and a lot to be quite happy about.

    Take #12 as an example .... pixel peeping this one, you can see individual eyelashes, eyebrow hairs, skin pores on her forehead, and individual strands of hair - all quite sharp enough to make me happy.

    I don't think you have anything to be concerned about as far as lens sharpness is concerned.

    Exposure - well we all have something to work on. :D

    Thanks for the great feedback. I am glad to hear I was able to score a decent lens a super low price. As for exposure, I am far from a master, I sometimes get hung up on metering modes when going between shade and sun any tips?
  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited July 14, 2009
    Tips:
    • Watch your histogram for spikes and the image in the LCD for blinkies :D
    • Once on your computer, toss out the garbage - we ALL have stuff that doesn't make the cut so feel no shame about tossing 50% or more of the shots you take deal.gif
    HTH
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