A couple square format shots...

thoththoth Registered Users Posts: 1,085 Major grins
edited July 22, 2009 in People
Here's a couple shots from over the weekend. Both shots were taken with my newly-acquired Nikon AF 80-200 ED. C&C is always welcome. Enjoy.

1) My girlfriend's dad
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2) My girlfriend's niece
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Thanks for looking!
Travis

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  • KinkajouKinkajou Registered Users Posts: 1,240 Major grins
    edited July 20, 2009
    It might just be my monitor (the one I'm using at the moment is uncalibrated and not good :) ), but the first shot looks a little muddy... but a lot of BW shots on this monitor do, even when they look perfect elsewhere.

    Would it be possible to adjust the crop on the first shot a little bit so that he is positioned more toward the left and there is space on the right side of the image? Just not so centered, I guess. Also, is there any way to sharpen up his eyes just a touch?

    The second shot looks like you just captured the right moment! I might crop it a little bit to remove/reduce the patch of lighter tones from her shirt, it is a little distracting.

    Nice job!
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  • thoththoth Registered Users Posts: 1,085 Major grins
    edited July 20, 2009
    Kinkajou wrote:
    It might just be my monitor (the one I'm using at the moment is uncalibrated and not good :) ), but the first shot looks a little muddy... but a lot of BW shots on this monitor do, even when they look perfect elsewhere.

    Would it be possible to adjust the crop on the first shot a little bit so that he is positioned more toward the left and there is space on the right side of the image? Just not so centered, I guess. Also, is there any way to sharpen up his eyes just a touch?

    The second shot looks like you just captured the right moment! I might crop it a little bit to remove/reduce the patch of lighter tones from her shirt, it is a little distracting.

    Nice job!

    Thanks for the suggestions. I'll keep them in mind.
    Travis
  • jdfaithjdfaith Registered Users Posts: 172 Major grins
    edited July 20, 2009
    I like them both. On the first, rather than muddy, it appears the nose/moustache (even the front of the hat) is in sharper focus than the eyes. I really like the overall appearance of the second -- slightly soft but really nice bokeh.

    Thanks for sharing.

    John
  • afev0602afev0602 Registered Users Posts: 166 Major grins
    edited July 21, 2009
    I really like the first one a lot...the second is softer than I would like.
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  • thoththoth Registered Users Posts: 1,085 Major grins
    edited July 21, 2009
    jdfaith wrote:
    I like them both. On the first, rather than muddy, it appears the nose/moustache (even the front of the hat) is in sharper focus than the eyes. I really like the overall appearance of the second -- slightly soft but really nice bokeh.
    afev0602 wrote:
    I really like the first one a lot...the second is softer than I would like.

    Thanks for the comments, folks.
    Travis
  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited July 21, 2009
    thoth wrote:
    Thanks for the comments, folks.


    First one is very nice - and anyone who thinks it's either soft, or muddy, should go with my wife tomorrow a.m. when she has her cataract surgery. ;-)

    As to the second - it is much too soft. There are definitely times when "focus and exposure are greatly overrated," but this shot is not one of them. It's a cute child shot, but...

    But the first one is terrific.:D
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  • thoththoth Registered Users Posts: 1,085 Major grins
    edited July 21, 2009
    bdcolen wrote:
    First one is very nice - and anyone who thinks it's either soft, or muddy, should go with my wife tomorrow a.m. when she has her cataract surgery. ;-)

    As to the second - it is much too soft. There are definitely times when "focus and exposure are greatly overrated," but this shot is not one of them. It's a cute child shot, but...

    But the first one is terrific.:D

    Thanks for the comments, B.D.

    I may be carving a niche only a mother could love, but I am fond of the several out of focus shots (including #2) I have posted lately. I know there is very little technical merit in them but I often find more interest in them in general. Granted, this could be akin to your dreaded tilted horizons as an attempt to generate interest, however. Perhaps I will grow out of it soon! thumb.gif
    Travis
  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited July 21, 2009
    thoth wrote:
    Thanks for the comments, B.D.

    I may be carving a niche only a mother could love, but I am fond of the several out of focus shots (including #2) I have posted lately. I know there is very little technical merit in them but I often find more interest in them in general. Granted, this could be akin to your dreaded tilted horizons as an attempt to generate interest, however. Perhaps I will grow out of it soon! thumb.gif

    Hopefully.rolleyes1.gif
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  • sweet carolinesweet caroline Registered Users Posts: 1,589 Major grins
    edited July 21, 2009
    The first one is great.

    I also find myself falling in live with out of focus shots of children. Being a mother and preschool teacher, I know that children are often like fairies flitting through, hardly ever in focus in real life!

    Caroline
  • jeffreaux2jeffreaux2 Registered Users Posts: 4,762 Major grins
    edited July 21, 2009
    I like the conversion on #1, but agree that swapping the negative space to give him room in the direction he is looking would be an improvement. It's nice and sharp, and his face the texture and lines of a great character. A little extra contrast could only accentuate those features more...:D


    The second....while well framed(cropped) and surely an energitic and fun moment worth capturing misses the mark due to blurring that appears to be caused bt subject movement and a shutter speed too slow to freeze the moment. While I agree that in some instances softness can add "something" to an image, in this particular case it only detracts.

    Thats my two cents.......dont spend it all in one place!:D


    Thanks for sharing.
  • thoththoth Registered Users Posts: 1,085 Major grins
    edited July 21, 2009
    The first one is great.

    I also find myself falling in live with out of focus shots of children. Being a mother and preschool teacher, I know that children are often like fairies flitting through, hardly ever in focus in real life!

    Caroline
    Thanks Caroline. I knew there had to be someone else who like the blur!
    jeffreaux2 wrote:
    I like the conversion on #1, but agree that swapping the negative space to give him room in the direction he is looking would be an improvement. It's nice and sharp, and his face the texture and lines of a great character. A little extra contrast could only accentuate those features more...:D


    The second....while well framed(cropped) and surely an energitic and fun moment worth capturing misses the mark due to blurring that appears to be caused bt subject movement and a shutter speed too slow to freeze the moment. While I agree that in some instances softness can add "something" to an image, in this particular case it only detracts.

    Thats my two cents.......dont spend it all in one place!:D


    Thanks for sharing.
    Thanks for the comments Jeff. When I have a few minutes I'll try another crop on that first one since your comment seems to be a common one. I'll even try a little more contrast. Like you said, it couldn't hurt!
    Travis
  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited July 22, 2009
    The first one is great.

    I also find myself falling in live with out of focus shots of children. Being a mother and preschool teacher, I know that children are often like fairies flitting through, hardly ever in focus in real life!

    Caroline

    Being a photographer - and a dad - I know that it's possible to capture that aspect of childhood and still take in-focus images. There is no doubt there are times when a fast child and a slow shutter speed combine to produce a gorgeous image. There is also no doubt that throughout the history of photography there are iconic images with technical imperfections - and some of them are improved - may even be iconic because of the imperfections (How about Capa's D-day images? mwink.gif ) But the image we are discussing here is just plain out of focus. There is nothing in it in focus. And on top of that the child's eyes are closed. (And that might have been fine had the face been in focus.mwink.gif )

    Hopefully we are all friends here. And hopefully we all offer criticism that's constructive and not destructive. But at the same time, I don't believe we are providing each other any help if we just say "whoopee! what a great shot" to everything that gets posted.

    Shot one - excellent, both technically and aesthetically.
    Shot two - try again.
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