Black/White Ally pic

goldilocksandmy3bears

So on my last "practice pretend engagment shoot" we came across a homeless man's "home" C&C please.

bdcolen

goldilocksandmy3bears wrote:

So on my last "practice pretend engagment shoot" we came across a homeless man's "home" C&C please.

Hmmmmm...and you had your subject invade his "home," why exactly? Forget entirely the questions related to hygine, and the vermin undoubtedly living there that might well have found their way onto your subject's jeans. But given your understanding that that was someone's "home," why, why, why would you use it for a prop for a "practice pretend engagement photo?"

thoth

bdcolen wrote:

Hmmmmm...and you had your subject invade his "home," why exactly? Forget entirely the questions related to hygine, and the vermin undoubtedly living there that might well have found their way onto your subject's jeans. But given your understanding that that was someone's "home," why, why, why would you use it for a prop for a "practice pretend engagement photo?"

Ditto.


As for the picture, it looks pretty good on my monitor. It could be slightly underexposed but, being uncalibrated here, I can't say for sure. The composition is nice and, regardless of the morality of your locale, the models expression seems to fit nicely.

bdcolen

thoth wrote:

Ditto.


As for the picture, it looks pretty good on my monitor. It could be slightly underexposed but, being uncalibrated here, I can't say for sure. The composition is nice and, regardless of the morality of your locale, the models expression seems to fit nicely.

True - The expression being, 'oh, s*&t! Would you just take the damn photo so we can get out of here?!'

thoth

bdcolen wrote:

True - The expression being, 'oh, s*&t! Would you just take the damn photo so we can get out of here?!'

christulk

Forget entirely the questions related to hygine, and the vermin undoubtedly living there that might well have found their way onto your subject's jeans

Probably get more 'stuff' on your jeans on any public transport seat (bus/train etc) anywhere in the world

Art Scott

goldilocksandmy3bears wrote:

So on my last "practice pretend engagment shoot" we came across a homeless man's "home" C&C please.

Courtney...first mistake....saying this place is known to be a homeless guy's home......never tell anyone that or they will do as above......secondly that could be a matress that I saw just a mile or so from my house in downtown wichita....dumped in an alley by a cheapskate jerk not wanting to pay for taking to dump........
I like the tension in the photo.....for all we know the subject said hey look lets try this......hell I've had a bride to be want a shot of her finance coming out of a nasty Dumpster....her joke was the rags to riches thingy....back to your photo......too much headroom...crop 2 or 3 bricks above her head........not to worry aboutthe word trespassing, missing the "g".....gets point across very well.........need prop(s) liquor bottle(s) beer can and some fully cooked chili cans lying around for the actual lived in look................a little more contrast ........it could be convincing

thoth

Art Scott wrote:

I like the tension in the photo.....for all we know the subject said hey look lets try this......hell I've had a bride to be want a shot of her finance coming out of a nasty Dumpster....her joke was the rags to riches thingy....back to your photo......too much headroom...crop 2 or 3 bricks above her head........not to worry aboutthe word trespassing, missing the "g".....gets point across very well.........need prop(s) liquor bottle(s) beer can and some fully cooked chili cans lying around for the actual lived in look................a little more contrast ........it could be convincing

I have to disagree on a couple points here. First, I think the crop adds much of the tension seen in this photo. Tighten it too much and you just have a photo of a distraught girl. Keeping it open gives us a story -- a story about why the girl is tense. I don't necessarily think it says "homeless" but I do think it says "this place is cold and dark and I don't like where I'm at." Crop the baren top and I think you'll crop the story as well.

Keeping in line with the first point, adding props (beer bottles, chili cans, etc.) would likely dilute the discomfort. Get us drunk and fill our bellies and you can drop us in the Sahara with few complaints; I don't think an alley would bother us much.

My advice is to lose the homelss explanation. To me this shot isn't about living on the streets; it's about lonliness or discomfort. And though homelessness certainly includes those things it is certainly not necessary to tell the story.

Richard

Once upon a time you dressed so fine
You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didnt you?
Peopled call, say, beware doll, youre bound to fall
You thought they were all kiddin you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin out
Now you dont talk so loud
Now you dont seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.

-Like a Rolling Stone, Bob Dylan

I don't much see a connection with engagement here, but I like the idea of the pic. If anything, I would have dressed her up more while making her look a little disheveled. Also maybe go a little bit wider.

goldilocksandmy3bears

Thank you for all the C&C. As far as my explanation goes perhaps I made the mistake of saying it was a homeless man's 'home". There was no homeless man there (I didn't tell some man to move out of the way so I could take a picture on his bed) to me it just looked like someone had maybe used it OR maybe someone (like another poster mentioned) dumped the mattress off in the alley so they wouldn't have to pay for dumping.
As far as the fleas,lice, etc goes it was the model who wanted to try this pic in this location - worked out good for me (however she did get in my car afterwards ).
thanks again for looking and C&C!!
Courtney

goldilocksandmy3bears

thoth wrote:

I have to disagree on a couple points here. First, I think the crop adds much of the tension seen in this photo. Tighten it too much and you just have a photo of a distraught girl. Keeping it open gives us a story -- a story about why the girl is tense. I don't necessarily think it says "homeless" but I do think it says "this place is cold and dark and I don't like where I'm at." Crop the baren top and I think you'll crop the story as well.

Keeping in line with the first point, adding props (beer bottles, chili cans, etc.) would likely dilute the discomfort. Get us drunk and fill our bellies and you can drop us in the Sahara with few complaints; I don't think an alley would bother us much.

My advice is to lose the homelss explanation. To me this shot isn't about living on the streets; it's about lonliness or discomfort. And though homelessness certainly includes those things it is certainly not necessary to tell the story.

Thanks - I agree about the crop

goldilocksandmy3bears

bdcolen wrote:

True - The expression being, 'oh, s*&t! Would you just take the damn photo so we can get out of here?!'

- funny as this location was her choice.