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Middle School Volleyball

GringriffGringriff Registered Users Posts: 340 Major grins
edited September 12, 2009 in Sports
I never tried volleyball photography but my son joined the middle school team and I got to go, so of course I took the camera. The boys played good but lost to a better team. They will improve.

I used Noiseware (and sharpening) on all of these because the ISO was between 2500 and 6400 with shutter speeds 1/500 or 1/640. I know these are not great but with the higher ISO I am sure I would not have gotten even this good with the XSi. I am really enjoying the 50D.

Thanks for looking, any comments are welcomed.

Andy

1. Concentrating on the serve
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2. A good effort
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3. A little close for comfort
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4. My son trying to get the technique
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Andy
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Canon 7D, 70-200mm L, 50 and 85 primes, Tamron 17-50, 28-135

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    rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited September 9, 2009
    Good start to your volleyball shooting.

    Not sure which lens you are using. From your list, the 85 f/1.8 may be best because of the extra stop over the zoom and the AF system and reach over the 50. I often use this lens at f/2.2 (from reading that it is sharp from here on, not from testing). Shoot lots to be able to choose from the best as often the keeper rate in these lighting conditions is low.

    Have a fun season! Thanks for sharing.
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    GringriffGringriff Registered Users Posts: 340 Major grins
    edited September 9, 2009
    rainbow wrote:
    Good start to your volleyball shooting.

    Not sure which lens you are using. From your list, the 85 f/1.8 may be best because of the extra stop over the zoom and the AF system and reach over the 50. I often use this lens at f/2.2 (from reading that it is sharp from here on, not from testing). Shoot lots to be able to choose from the best as often the keeper rate in these lighting conditions is low.

    Have a fun season! Thanks for sharing.

    Thanks rainbow. These shots were all taken with the 70-200 which resulted in very little cropping. I did use the 85 prime during the last game. I wanted to try the zoom to reach both ends as much as possible. But as it turns out, trying to catch a baseline player was tough as the front guys kept getting in the way. Next time I may try more with 85 and just crop a little extra.

    Andy
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    JeffCanonJeffCanon Registered Users Posts: 97 Big grins
    edited September 9, 2009
    the white balance seem a little yellowish and IMO try to stay away from that 6400 iso even it you end shooting under a stop
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    GringriffGringriff Registered Users Posts: 340 Major grins
    edited September 9, 2009
    JeffCanon wrote:
    the white balance seem a little yellowish and IMO try to stay away from that 6400 iso even it you end shooting under a stop

    Thanks Jeff. I really struggle with white balance. I went back and adjusted several of the photos again.

    Thanks,
    Andy
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    rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited September 10, 2009
    Not sure if you are shooting JPeg or RAW. RAW allows for best white balance in post processing. Use the DPP software and use the eyedropper to click on something white or gray until it looks good OR use a gray card and take a few frames before shooting the event. Takes more time, but much better results.
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    GringriffGringriff Registered Users Posts: 340 Major grins
    edited September 10, 2009
    rainbow wrote:
    Not sure if you are shooting JPeg or RAW. RAW allows for best white balance in post processing. Use the DPP software and use the eyedropper to click on something white or gray until it looks good OR use a gray card and take a few frames before shooting the event. Takes more time, but much better results.

    Yes I did shoot these in RAW because I knew they would need extra work due to the lighting. I have a gray card and use it most of the time but I have been told not to use it for white balance. This time I found something white and shot it for the Custom White Balance (the white basketball backboard) and still made extra adjustments at the computer.

    I use the dropper tool (Bridge) which seems easy enough but I will look at several different spots on the image to try and get it right but I find that I get it set and then later realize it is too yellow, or green, or whatever and then have to adjust the colors again.

    Thanks,
    Andy
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    Canon 7D, 70-200mm L, 50 and 85 primes, Tamron 17-50, 28-135
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    GringriffGringriff Registered Users Posts: 340 Major grins
    edited September 10, 2009
    Okay. I did shoot RAW but those are already deleted. So I made some adjustments to the JPG versions. Here are the updates for a couple (#1 and #3 from above) that I thought may need it most.

    Let me know if these are any better or if I am still way off.

    Thanks again,
    Andy

    1. REVISED
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    3. REVISED
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    Andy
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    http://andygriffin.smugmug.com/
    Canon 7D, 70-200mm L, 50 and 85 primes, Tamron 17-50, 28-135
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    rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited September 10, 2009
    pics not showing on my PC
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    GringriffGringriff Registered Users Posts: 340 Major grins
    edited September 11, 2009
    rainbow wrote:
    pics not showing on my PC

    Oh. Should work now, I think?
    Andy
    http://andygriffinphoto.com/
    http://andygriffin.smugmug.com/
    Canon 7D, 70-200mm L, 50 and 85 primes, Tamron 17-50, 28-135
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    rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited September 11, 2009
    Pics now visible. First one looks good. Second one I am seeing green on his left arm. Try the eyedropper on the ball. I just processed some HS vb and that worked pretty well in a fluorescent lit gym.
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    GringriffGringriff Registered Users Posts: 340 Major grins
    edited September 12, 2009
    rainbow wrote:
    Pics now visible. First one looks good. Second one I am seeing green on his left arm. Try the eyedropper on the ball. I just processed some HS vb and that worked pretty well in a fluorescent lit gym.
    I agree and think the legs are even a little green. I will keep trying and will use the ball some more (have tried that some already too). They have another home match on Monday. Hopefully, those will turn out a little better. I may stick more with the 85 prime instead of the zoom this time.

    Thanks for your help.
    Andy
    http://andygriffinphoto.com/
    http://andygriffin.smugmug.com/
    Canon 7D, 70-200mm L, 50 and 85 primes, Tamron 17-50, 28-135
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    MT StringerMT Stringer Registered Users Posts: 225 Major grins
    edited September 12, 2009
    Andy you ought to be happy with the light you had. This past Tue. I had to shoot 1/400 sec, f/2.2 - 2.5 with a 1D and 100mm f/2.0 lens. I also shoot in RAW so the white balance can be adjusted, and possible adjust the exposure.

    It takes a lot longer to process the RAW files (convert to jpg), but I think it is worth it, even if I had 1200 pics (three matches - fresh, jv and varsity).

    Keep up the good work.
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